adamlewis723
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Stereo Panning Law?
Hello,
I was just wondering what Stereo Panning Laws you use... I keep mine of the default but i read in Sonar 8 Power its best to change it? Sorry i dont have the exact settings right now since I am at work :)
Thank you,
Adam
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jsaras
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RE: Stereo Panning Law?
2009/05/21 10:27:05
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Use one of the -3dB options. It's consistent with how a real mixing desk works. In short, the overall volume will remain the same regardless of where you set the panning.
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CJaysMusic
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RE: Stereo Panning Law?
2009/05/21 13:38:12
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I use the 0db center, sin/cos, constant power.....For me, im use to it that way and i like it more than the -3db options
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bitflipper
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RE: Stereo Panning Law?
2009/05/21 14:20:32
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I use the 0db law, too. The only downside to it is that if you automate panning on a stereo track you may need to follow the pan envelope with the volume envelope. However, I rarely automate panning on stereo tracks so that's no big deal.
My preference for the 0db law is that it feels more natural, even though volume does go up as you pan something toward the center. Most of the time, I end up lowering the volume of a track after panning out to the sides anyway, because it's clearer out there than in the center, and doesn't need to be as hot.
At the end of the day, unless you automate panning it really doesn't matter what pan law you use. Just pick one and stick to it.
And never, ever change pan laws in the middle of a mixing project! (Don't ask me how I know this)
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nhb
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RE: Stereo Panning Law?
2009/05/21 15:19:08
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Unfortunately, due to Cakewalks flawed implementation, your only choice is to always work with a 0db pan law, unless you are prepared to always change the setting back to 0db before doing a mono bounce.
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bil_g
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RE: Stereo Panning Law?
2009/05/21 16:17:48
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Thank you, nhb! You said it, nice and simple.
You can't trim noise off a single hit and bounce to clips without it reducing the clip by 3db using the -3db law. Also, if Sonar is inaccurately assessing the pan law at the clip level, how many other times might it be doing the same throughout the entire signal chain?
But, as bitflipper eluded to when using the 0db law, a mono track will raise by 3db when you pan it hard left or right.
I would like to use -3db but, to me, it is actually destructive. I have to recommend 0db.
Not get to OT - Today, my annoyance is shift-f. With five minutes of "research" , i have found that if they added 2 ticks(at 960ppq) to the end of what Sonar thinks is fit-to-screen, it might not page cycle, still, after hitting shift-f. Ever notice that holding shift and hitting f, say, four times cycle two different settings? Why?
Sorry for that, it's just all these little things....
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nhb
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RE: Stereo Panning Law?
2009/05/22 16:05:02
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I would like to use -3db but, to me, it is actually destructive. I have to recommend 0db. Me too. I feel that -3db is the professional way to go. Unfortunately that's a no go with Sonar. nhb
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Jonbouy
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RE: Stereo Panning Law?
2009/05/22 21:02:45
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And never, ever change pan laws in the middle of a mixing project! (Don't ask me how I know this)
Sorry Bit but I have to now...  How do you know this?...  Shared experience is one of the most valuable 'teachers', so come on you have to fill in the blank now.
post edited by Jonbouy - 2009/05/22 21:13:23
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bitflipper
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RE: Stereo Panning Law?
2009/05/23 12:32:36
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How do you know this?... That should be obvious. As I read once on a church readerboard: experience is not the best teacher, it is a terrible teacher because you get the lesson AFTER the test.
All else is in doubt, so this is the truth I cling to. My Stuff
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