Still can't scroll Pro Channel!?

I can scroll the PC. What it stopping you from scrolling?

yep... I can scroll the ProChannel in Inspector by using the mouse scroll button. And I do not need to click in the strip to give it focus. As long as my mouse pointer is over the prochannel it scrolls...

So does this mean that X2 has Expanded built in to it and there is no such thing as X2 Expanded?

Ah....

My bad ;).  Mouse wheel wasn't doing anything.

Now can you scroll the channel strip in the inspector?  That still seems to be locked in place.

rumleymusic


Ah....

My bad ;).  Mouse wheel wasn't doing anything.

Now can you scroll the channel strip in the inspector?  That still seems to be locked in place.

No you can't.

I turned on a console emulator and closed pro channel. Later I re-opened it and scroll wouldn't work and the console thing was greyed out. I turned on the EQ and it all came back on...minor things.

I finally got a chance to try to recreate the Pro Channel scrolling issue that I'd seen (or at least one variation).  It turned out to be pretty simple to do with a very small project with 3 instrument tracks and 2 buses, each with enough Pro Channel Modules on it to need to be able to scroll.  Here is the problem report I just submitted to Cakewalk to describe it -- I'm guessing most should be able to recreate something similar to this pretty easily, with one key being to just select and unselect an applicable track, hovering your mouse over Pro Channel and using the scroll wheel in between, and sometimes switching back and forth between buses and tracks and doing the same in between. 
 
In my estimation, Pro Channel should always scroll (if scrolling is applicable on the track or bus) if you hover the mouse over it and use the mouse wheel.   You shouldn't have to click on a module in Pro Channel to restore scrolling functionality, and it should matter whether a track's selection is toggled or not.

CWBRN-11100 Pro Channel sometimes doesn't scroll when changing track/bus selection/focus
Steps to recreate:
1) Open sample project "X2 Pro Channel Scrolling Issue.cwp".
2) Hover your mouse over Pro Channel and move the mouse wheel.
3) Click on the "1" in the Track 1 (Rapture instrument track) header in the tracks pane.
4) Hover your mouse over Pro Channel and move the mouse wheel.
5) Click on the 2 in the Track 2 (Dimension Pro instrument track) header in the tracks pane.
6) Hover your mouse over Pro Channel and move the mouse wheel.
7) Click on the 2 in the Track 2 (Dimension Pro instrument track) header in the tracks pane.
8) Hover your mouse over Pro Channel and move the mouse wheel.
9) Click on the "1" in the Track 1 (Rapture instrument track) header in the tracks pane.
10) Hover your mouse over Pro Channel and move the mouse wheel.
11) Click on the "A" in the Bus A (Master bus) header in the bus pane.
12) Hover your mouse over Pro Channel and move the mouse wheel.
13) Click on the "A" in the Bus A (Master bus) header in the bus pane.
14) Hover your mouse over Pro Channel and move the mouse wheel.
15) Click on the "1" in the Track 1 (Rapture instrument track) header in the tracks pane.
16) Hover your mouse over Pro Channel and move the mouse wheel.
Expected results:
In all even number steps above, the Pro Channel modules should scroll.
Actual results:
The Pro Channel modules scroll in steps 2, 6, and 10, but they do not scroll in steps 4, 8, 12, 14, and 16.

Rick

The channel strips in Inspector do NOT scroll and never did.

They do if you undock the Inspector & float it

Bristol_Jonesey

The channel strips in Inspector do NOT scroll and never did.

They do if you undock the Inspector & float it

That's weird cause mine doesn't! I think there would be little reason for it to anyway since you can now resize the floating window as you like.
 
Steve

There should be no ambiguity, if you are hovering your mouse over Pro Channel and turn the wheel, that it is Pro Channel you are expecting to scroll.

I agree with this.  In most programs with locking windows that is how it works because it is instinctual and productive. Another thing that should be feature-requested.  


...now if I can only get X2 to stop crashing every time I try to insert a file from the media browser 

Whether I'm viewing Track or Console View.
If the components within the ProChannel inspector are taller than the window it has full scroll function.

I don't have to click the Inspector view of PC but obviously I had to select the track or channel strip (in Console View) to select which channels ProChannel I want to see.

If I select ProChannel from the console views channel Strip then the Inspector view is lost and reverts to the track and down stream bus inspector view.

All this works even if I undock the Inspector - obviously if I extend the vertical height of the undocked Inspector then it only scrolls if there are modules out of view.

FWIW, the Quick Fix patch seems to have affected the Pro Channel scrolling behavior on my system.  Where it was inconsistent before, and clicking on tracks would toggle the behavior, now it is consistent.  Now clicking on a track, for example to change the Pro Channel strip shown, now disables scrolling in Pro Channel until you click on a Pro Channel module. 

Perhaps this is intended behavior, but it is a major hassle for workflow now that Pro Channel will be used for more of the signal flow (and there are more modules likely to be there by default, too, thanks to Console Emulation).  It means at least needing two clicks pretty much any time you want to review settings on a different track in Pro Channel (at least when something you want to examine may be scrolled off the screen), instead of being able to just click on the new track to change which Pro Channel module is active then hover and scroll away.

Rick

soens


Is there a quick fix for X2 already? Or was that for X1? 

Yep, for X2.  See the message at the top of the sticky section of the X1/X2 forum  (URL to the patch, which is only for SONAR X2 Producer (i.e. no Studio, as the changes don't apply to Studio since they relate to Pro Channel), is http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/kb/reader.aspx/2007013292).  It seems to fix the crashing problem I was having when tweaking Pro Channel, and it also addresses the issue where Pro Channel modules seemed to disappear.
 
Rick

It's strange... I do not have any problems scrolling my ProChannel strips whether in Inspector or Console view, even if the track isn't active. I've just tried it, and I can hover my mouse over any of my PC strips and, without clicking in the strip I can scroll any strip I want. No clicking twice for me.

Am I the only one that can do this here?

yeah, i know what you mean, what i've discovered is if i minamise (spelling) each module i can see the others. but scrollin would be nice