Keni
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Still investigating - clip envelopes play but don't export?
I've redone this a dozen times in different ways, and it seems as tho a clip volume envelope sounds fine during playback, but doesn't happen when I do a file export... Still checking for my own possible errors but....
Anyone else find anything like this?
Keni
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Re: Still investigating - clip envelopes play but don't export?
2013/09/03 04:42:03
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Keni, I assume you DO have 'clip automation' checked in the export dialog yes?
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Re: Still investigating - clip envelopes play but don't export?
2013/09/03 08:39:32
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I've had something similar happen with the mod wheel. The automation works, but not correctly.
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Re: Still investigating - clip envelopes play but don't export?
2013/09/03 09:38:50
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Chandler
I've had something similar happen with the mod wheel. The automation works, but not correctly.
Ditto.
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Re: Still investigating - clip envelopes play but don't export?
2013/09/03 15:37:39
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X2a fixed some problems I had with Automation not working during export.
Are you on X2a?
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Keni
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Re: Still investigating - clip envelopes play but don't export?
2013/09/03 16:38:22
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Thanks Everyone...
Bristol... Yup... all are enabled...
stoutlyric... Yup.. X2a here as well...
I did a volume edit for a phrase where a person spoke off-mike for a moment and lost presence. when I play it in Sonar it sounds improved. when I listen to the file export (as 24/48 then mastered & dithered to 16/44.1), it sounds as though nothing has changed and the voice still drops away... My client observed this as well... I was using the clip gain as I wanted to raise the volume into the compressor, not after...
I thought I remembered reading that others had experienced this, but this is the first time I've had it happen to me (or did I not notice before? ;-))
Keni
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Re: Still investigating - clip envelopes play but don't export?
2013/09/03 17:49:37
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I did quick test when I saw your post and it seemed to work fine. If all else fails, you can automate the track's input gain instead.
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Re: Still investigating - clip envelopes play but don't export?
2013/09/03 18:15:07
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brundlefly
I did quick test when I saw your post and it seemed to work fine. If all else fails, you can automate the track's input gain instead.
Thanks brundlefly... I thought of that but there doesn't seem to be an entry for it in the beloved Edit Filter.... I looked a few times thinking I must have overlooked it... ...and BTW, I've used clip automation before and it worked fine.... This is my first instance of it not working as expected and I'm still searching to see if there's something I did "wrong"... ;-) Keni
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Re: Still investigating - clip envelopes play but don't export?
2013/09/03 18:25:19
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An FX Chain can be used as an automated input gain.
I would try freezing the track where the clip gain appears not to export properly.
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Re: Still investigating - clip envelopes play but don't export?
2013/09/04 12:17:00
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Keni
brundlefly
I did quick test when I saw your post and it seemed to work fine. If all else fails, you can automate the track's input gain instead.
Thanks brundlefly...
I thought of that but there doesn't seem to be an entry for it in the beloved Edit Filter.... I looked a few times thinking I must have overlooked it...
Oops. My mistake. You're right. I guess that makes sense, since input gain on an audio track is really happening at the clip level so that's where they put it. I was thinking to route the track to a dedicated bus where you can automate input gain, but I like scook's FX Chain solution much better. I realize you want to solve the mystery as much as the problem, but that's a good workaround for the time being.
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Keni
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Re: Still investigating - clip envelopes play but don't export?
2013/09/04 13:15:39
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scook
An FX Chain can be used as an automated input gain.
I would try freezing the track where the clip gain appears not to export properly.
Thanks... i didnt think of trying to freeze it. I'll try that tho the project is finished, Keni
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Keni
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Re: Still investigating - clip envelopes play but don't export?
2013/09/04 13:17:43
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brundlefly
Keni
brundlefly
I did quick test when I saw your post and it seemed to work fine. If all else fails, you can automate the track's input gain instead.
Thanks brundlefly...
I thought of that but there doesn't seem to be an entry for it in the beloved Edit Filter.... I looked a few times thinking I must have overlooked it...
Oops. My mistake. You're right. I guess that makes sense, since input gain on an audio track is really happening at the clip level so that's where they put it.
I was thinking to route the track to a dedicated bus where you can automate input gain, but I like scook's FX Chain solution much better.
I realize you want to solve the mystery as much as the problem, but that's a good workaround for the time being.
yeah... i might try sticking a gain boost plugin as a clip fx... K
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Re: Still investigating - clip envelopes play but don't export?
2013/09/04 13:42:46
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I've found clip automation in X2a in general really flakey.
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Re: Still investigating - clip envelopes play but don't export?
2015/04/10 16:19:59
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I'm having this same problem. Clip gain envelopes not exporting. They are working in playback. Some export some don't. This is causing me mucho problems in the final stages of an album I'm working on. A
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Keni
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Re: Still investigating - clip envelopes play but don't export?
2015/04/10 19:43:09
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I'm having this same problem. Clip gain envelopes not exporting. They are working in playback. Some export some don't. This is causing me mucho problems in the final stages of an album I'm working on. A
What version are you working in? This post was long ago in X2... I have not had such a problem since then... Keni
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Re: Still investigating - clip envelopes play but don't export?
2015/04/11 06:18:06
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X3 Windows 8.1 with the e patch. Did you ever find a solution in X2?
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Re: Still investigating - clip envelopes play but don't export?
2015/04/11 10:41:56
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As a possible work around you could highlight the offending phrase and do:
Process-> Apply Effect -> Gain
Maybe that will stick and make happy client.
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Keni
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Re: Still investigating - clip envelopes play but don't export?
2015/04/11 12:07:22
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Honestly...
It has not been an issue for me since the time of this report... So either it is fixed, or I haven't needed it again... Or maybe it was something in that project itself and you've run into it?
I'm currently running SPlat on both a win7pro and win8 system and have not seen this happen since x2...
Work around? I must have found one as I moved on with that piece. Maybe it was simply bouncing or freezing the track before doing the export? I honestly don't remember as it was near 2 years ago...
Keni
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