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Storing SFZ file for use
I have downloaded an SFZ file and samples for it in .wav format.
I try to drag and drop it into Dim Pro and I just get samples can't be found or loaded.
I have placed the SFZ folder into various places, trying to get it to work.
The SFZ folder has a sub-folder that contains the samples.
Is there some special layout or placement that I need to get this thing working? I ask because I can't tell whether it's the placement or maybe the files themselves at fault.
Thanks for any help
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Re: Storing SFZ file for use
2017/03/29 05:16:26
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Usually sfz files and their samples are located in the Multisamples folder. The default location is "C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Dimension Pro\Multisamples." The actual path to the Multisample sample folder is in the registry entry HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cakewalk Music Software\dp\Multisamples Folder
However, sample paths in an sfz file may be relative or absolute. The content shipped with DPro all use relative paths in the sfz files.
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Re: Storing SFZ file for use
2017/03/29 05:46:15
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Open the sfz file in a text editor like notepad and look to see where it expects the wav file to be. Look for sample=foldername\wavename.wav or sample=C:\foldername\wavename.wav The first example is a path relative to the location of the sfz file. The second an absolute path.
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OldNick
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Re: Storing SFZ file for use
2017/03/29 06:02:32
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AH. OK. So the SFZ itself decides the path. (Knew all this once  ) OK I checked the SFZ and each sample is in the form "sample=samples/C1vH.wav". So it's a relative path and as long as the /samples folder is a sub-folder of the place where the SFZ file is, they should be found? Or is this upsetting Dim Pro? Do I have to place the SFZ and its subfolder somewhere? It says "not found or couldn't be loaded. The wav files are playable in other programmes.
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Re: Storing SFZ file for use
2017/03/29 06:10:01
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DPro looks for sfz files in the Multisamples folder. Create a new folder there, then add the sfz files and sample folder to it.
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Re: Storing SFZ file for use
2017/03/29 06:35:12
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G'AH! I loaded the SFZ OK into sforzando and it "worked". But now everything SONAR plays, in any synth, is all distorted. Audacity plays waves fine. It's done this to me a few times, but usually resolved if I just quite and re-ran SONAR, but now even a reboot does not work. I seriously did not need this right now.
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Re: Storing SFZ file for use
2017/03/29 06:50:59
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Every sfz engine synth is different. Does it play OK in a new project by itself. It could be a resources issue. Running out of RAM?
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Re: Storing SFZ file for use
2017/03/29 07:00:50
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OK. I ran the Wave Profiler and that seems t have done it.
SO. sforzando can load and play the sfz and the files associated. But Rupture and Dimentia Pro still fail. I have moved the piano fold across to c:\programme files and into C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Dimension Pro\Multisamples(for some reason all my stuff has been installed in C:\Program Files x86\Cakewalk\Dimension Pro\Multisamples, but that seems to work OK), with the wav files still in its subdirectory.
AHah! this is interesting. Here is the _full_ error message in the log file
File c:\program files\cakewalk\dimension pro\multisamples\kawaiuprightpiano-20170128\samples not found or couldn't be loaded.
So it's looking for a file named samples, not a wav file in that folder?
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Re: Storing SFZ file for use
2017/03/29 07:03:47
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scook
Every sfz engine synth is different. Does it play OK in a new project by itself. It could be a resources issue. Running out of RAM?
Do you mean the distortion (cross-posting here) or the failure to load? Whatever, I am using a new blank project each time...keep it simple and protect my working projects! I have 8GB, so that should be OK
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Re: Storing SFZ file for use
2017/03/29 07:09:51
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The default path to the Multisample folder could be in either the 32bit or 64bit program files. That depends on whether 32bit or 6bit DPro was installed first. It does not matter where it is as long as the path is correct in the registry.
DPro would not attempt to load a path name as a sample file. It may be having trouble resolving the path, there may be a permissions problem with the path or the sfz file may have some subtle incompatibility with the DPro sfz implementation.
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Re: Storing SFZ file for use
2017/03/29 07:13:51
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OldNick
I have 8GB, so that should be OK
That should be OK for projects not to exceed a certain size. There is little to go on but the few symptoms described in your posts. The wave profiler works for driver modes other than ASIO. It does nothing when running in ASIO mode.
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Re: Storing SFZ file for use
2017/03/29 10:07:01
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My projects are hardly straining the system ATM  I am not using ASIO. My card does not support it. There is supposedly a driver that allows it, but I can't get it to install.
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Re: Storing SFZ file for use
2017/03/29 10:43:48
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I think I have to accept that the compatibility problem is the cause, given that other synths are loading the SFZ OK.
I am not happy with the Dim Pro Grand Pianos. They are set up to simulate my _playing_ the piano, not listening to it! Notes are geared to shift left to right with key value and there is a lot of reverb in some of them. The two just do not gel. I am pretty sure it's not just a preset thing as I am loading SFZs and not programmes. If I do, there are no Dim Pro settings to cause that.
Given this incompatibility issue, I would hate to take an SFZ from the Dim Pro library and spend time making it suit me, only to find Dim Pro could not read it when saved ("as", of course!).
I would suspect Dim Pro of being "Dim Proprietary" except that other synths can read its SFZs.....
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Re: Storing SFZ file for use
2017/03/29 19:46:47
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Open Cakewalk's own SFX.EXE and drop the sfz file on that.
I don't remember DimPro ignoring the path if is stated.
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Re: Storing SFZ file for use
2017/03/29 20:23:22
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twelvetone
Open Cakewalk's own SFX.EXE and drop the sfz file on that.
I don't remember DimPro ignoring the path if is stated.
I don't follow you, you mean SFX pro ?
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Re: Storing SFZ file for use
2017/03/30 00:42:52
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I am pretty sure it's a compatibility issue, but what is SFX.exe (or Pro)?
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