Mistergreen
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Strange clicks /dropouts during playback
I've been experiencing random pops/clicks/dropouts during playback and the only thing that fixes it is to max out my buffer size to 2048 (in Sonar and Saffire). It doesn't matter how big the project is. It seems to happen on everything. All drivers (firewire, graphics, Saffire) are up to date. My system specs are in my sig.
Anything jump out at anyone?
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Re: Strange clicks /dropouts during playback
2013/06/11 10:37:04
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Hi,turn off all wifi and power saving stuff on your MB set up.
Turn off the windows UAC,it's terrible on audio driver priority,especially for ASIO.
I have a lower spec and i use 3.5 ms on Focusrite Saffire Pro 24.
Let me know....good luck.
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Re: Strange clicks /dropouts during playback
2013/06/11 10:38:18
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i forgot the W7 power managemet....change the CPU on 100%
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Re: Strange clicks /dropouts during playback
2013/06/11 11:50:17
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What Driver mode are you using for the Echo card? If your using ASIO ,Try WDM and visa versa
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Re: Strange clicks /dropouts during playback
2013/06/11 12:17:51
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Be sure to increase the midi and audio buffers as well. They need to be able to "look ahead" far enough to get everything processed. Do you run a large number of synths in the project? If so, try bouncing them to audio (or freeze the synths ) and archive to disable the synth processing. See how it plays back when everything is in the audio world.
Quite often this will solve the issue.
You said you have a focusrite interface, so you certainly want to try using the ASIO drivers first.
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Mistergreen
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Re: Strange clicks /dropouts during playback
2013/06/11 15:04:29
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As for drivers, I am using ASIO. My projects are primarily audio with Superior Drummer but the glitches occur on audio only projects as well.
Windows UAC is turned off. I've optimized per Sweetwater's optimization guide.
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Re: Strange clicks /dropouts during playback
2013/06/11 16:10:21
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Try running DPC latency checker, (google it) if you are see large spikes, try disabling different devices one at a time and re-test,
the "goto" one I'd try first is any network cards/devices, just disable it in device manager.
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Re: Strange clicks /dropouts during playback
2013/06/11 17:22:39
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Mistergreen
As for drivers, I am using ASIO. My projects are primarily audio with Superior Drummer but the glitches occur on audio only projects as well.
Windows UAC is turned off. I've optimized per Sweetwater's optimization guide.
So try using WDM driver mode As i said in my other post above, you need to try both driver modes. One is not better than the other.
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Re: Strange clicks /dropouts during playback
2013/06/12 08:03:08
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Agreed... sometimes a driver other than ASIO (which is generally better) will in fact work better.
Be sure to try converting all the synths to audio and shutoff the synths so they are not taking up the processing power. Audio only projects do tend to run smoother.
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Mistergreen
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Re: Strange clicks /dropouts during playback
2013/06/12 09:20:40
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Mistergreen
As for drivers, I am using ASIO. My projects are primarily audio with Superior Drummer but the glitches occur on audio only projects as well.
Windows UAC is turned off. I've optimized per Sweetwater's optimization guide.
So try using WDM driver mode
As i said in my other post above, you need to try both driver modes. One is not better than the other.
I have tried the WDM. That's makes things almost unplayable.
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Re: Strange clicks /dropouts during playback
2013/06/12 09:24:07
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Try running DPC latency checker, (google it) if you are see large spikes, try disabling different devices one at a time and re-test,
the "goto" one I'd try first is any network cards/devices, just disable it in device manager.
I did this as well. Let it run for about 10 minutes. No spikes. Never went over 37µS.
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Re: Strange clicks /dropouts during playback
2013/06/12 09:34:22
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Please provide detail on exactly what plugins are being used in one of these projects that is exhibiting these dropouts and such.
Also, please list the Sample Rate and Record Bit-Depth you are running with for one of these projects having the dropouts.
Thanks,
Bob Bone
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Re: Strange clicks /dropouts during playback
2013/06/14 00:08:15
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robert_e_bone
Please provide detail on exactly what plugins are being used in one of these projects that is exhibiting these dropouts and such.
Also, please list the Sample Rate and Record Bit-Depth you are running with for one of these projects having the dropouts.
Thanks,
Bob Bone
No plugins, Bob. I just played a raw 44/16 project and it did it 3 times in 5 minutes.
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Re: Strange clicks /dropouts during playback
2013/06/14 01:23:40
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OK - so no effects whatsoever? You are playing back straight audio tracks only? How many tracks are you playing back? What is running in the background? Also, JUST for testing, what happens if you remove the graphics card and try again? (with only the on-board graphics used) As to why I ask about the above, here is a link to a prior post with issues using the latest drivers for your graphics card: http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2452005 I am just trying to isolate the problem, and it is a simple matter to remove the card and see the effect that has on the dropouts issue. I am also continuing to dig for other things to look at, Bob Bone
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Re: Strange clicks /dropouts during playback
2013/06/14 01:42:29
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Re: Strange clicks /dropouts during playback
2013/06/14 08:10:51
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I had this problem and was recommended to uncheck the "use multiprocessing engine" in preferences/playback&recording. And it worked like a charm. never had a pop or click since then
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Re: Strange clicks /dropouts during playback
2013/06/15 10:12:54
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Skarda
I had this problem and was recommended to uncheck the "use multiprocessing engine" in preferences/playback&recording. And it worked like a charm. never had a pop or click since then
That's a band aid to a major problem. I would fix the problem and not cover it up, as you need multi cores for good performance. Its most likely a FW card problem like many other have said or it can even be an IRQ conflict. Look into both IRQ conflicts and getting a good Firewire card CJ
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Re: Strange clicks /dropouts during playback
2013/06/15 10:28:27
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do you have a wireless?
turn it off in control panel/devise manager.
this did it for me, trust me.
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Re: Strange clicks /dropouts during playback
2013/06/17 12:07:01
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robert_e_bone
It looks like the chip set used on your FireWire PCIe card is:
Chipset: Texas Instruments TI XIO2200AZGW
(The above information is coming from the specs for your FireWire card, from this link:
)
In the link I shared in my earlier post above (), there is a post that contains the following information (I have not substantiated it though):
The Focusrite approved chipsets:
- Texas Instruments (TSB43AB22 and TSB43AB23)
- VIA (VT6306 and VT6308)
Perhaps there is an issue there?
Bob Bone
Thanks for the response Bob. Where did you find the info regarding Focusrite's approved chipsets? I just double-checked their website and found: Texas Instruments(TSB43AB22, TSB43AB23 and XIO2200A) I chose the one I have based on their recommendations.
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Re: Strange clicks /dropouts during playback
2013/10/07 09:28:44
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chuckebaby
do you have a wireless?
turn it off in control panel/devise manager.
this did it for me, trust me.
No wireless. I tried to disable the network adapter via Control Panel but when I do this, my Waves plugins don't work. They are somehow affected by the network adapter.
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