Mick
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Strum Acoustic vs. RealGuitar
Hi there,
Can anybody give me a brief comparison of these two plugins, or point me to one? I've searched but most of the comparisons I've found are pretty old. I just got Sonar X3 Producer, and I have an old version of RealGuitar/RealStrat, and I'm trying to figure out if its worth the relatively cheap upgrade price to RealGuitar3. It's been so long since I've used Realguitar I'm going to have to spend some time learning whichever one I end up using. Is Strum Acoustic Session worth the effort if I have RealGuitar? Thanks
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Re: Strum Acoustic vs. RealGuitar
2014/03/31 10:59:45
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Real guitar all day long for me. There are demos of both available but beware of RG3 demo as it overwrites your existing RG installation and so turns your fully functional multi guitar licenced version into a limited (one guitar only) demo version and the only way out of it is to uninstall the demo and then re-install your existing version. I learnt that the hard way. Musiclab's reply to my questioning this was that it is intended behaviour and they couldn't really seem to appreciate that it is a not a very good idea for those who own earlier versions and want to try the new one before buying. I suggested that they should at least make demo downloaders aware of this, but I have no idea if they implemented that or not. It annoyed me a lot at the time and I didn't buy it for that reason. AFAIK RG2 and RG3 sound identical, there was no upgrade to the sounds, just the UI and functionality that changed and the ability to use a guitar-hero style controller for more "realism", but as this requires you to input the chord progression into your sequencer first it seemed a bit of a faff and I decided that it was just easier play on a keyboard in real time as before.
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Re: Strum Acoustic vs. RealGuitar
2014/03/31 11:38:57
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Can't speak to the interface/playability, cuz I'm not a keys player, but I spent tens of hours A/Bing the samples and ended up w Real Guitar.
Be very careful making the purchase. You can click on Buy RealGuitar Now, and end up with RealLPC or Strat if you don't doublecheck the order. No refunds in that case, but MusicLab did make me a bundle offer I didn't refuse.
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Re: Strum Acoustic vs. RealGuitar
2014/03/31 11:53:01
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Thank you both - I guess I'm gonna go with the reasonably-cheap RealGuitar/RealStrat combo - Any opinions on RealGuitar vs. Strat vs. LPC?
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Re: Strum Acoustic vs. RealGuitar
2014/03/31 12:02:05
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Disclaimer: I am not a guitar player. Pianoman.
That having been said, I bought RG and RS bundled. I use both. Mainly RG for folk/accoustic, RG and RS for rock. I looked at LPC a while back and decided that there was not enough of a difference between it and RS to my non-guitar ears to pay for both RS and LPC. I think what you do with plugs is at least as important as the synth.
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Re: Strum Acoustic vs. RealGuitar
2014/03/31 14:24:23
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Mick
Thank you both - I guess I'm gonna go with the reasonably-cheap RealGuitar/RealStrat combo - Any opinions on RealGuitar vs. Strat vs. LPC?
I would much rather have had LPC over Strat, but I bought RG and RS in a bundle deal and there wasn't a LPC/RG bundle available. I asked Musiclab if I could have LPC instead of Strat which was the same price at the time, but they wouldn't do it for whatever reason. I had all three on demo at the time and I just liked the sound of LPC so much more. You will be safe with the LPC demo if you don't already have LPC installed, so you can A/B the in a project.
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Re: Strum Acoustic vs. RealGuitar
2014/03/31 14:52:20
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Is there any good video tutorial on how to use RG?
I have tried many times and I am not convinced. Maybe I am doing something wrong.
Can't use it in any track without sound very fake/mechanical.
Please advise
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Re: Strum Acoustic vs. RealGuitar
2014/03/31 15:12:18
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Mick, I have the full boat RG series. They all have their intended use just as in real life. Strum Acoustic is nice (I own it) but I actually like Strum Maker IV by Indiginus better (I own it too). Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks. (see what I did there?)
post edited by bapu - 2014/03/31 15:43:39
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Re: Strum Acoustic vs. RealGuitar
2014/03/31 15:38:04
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Re: Strum Acoustic vs. RealGuitar
2014/03/31 17:29:26
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Real Guitar is my go to plug for acoustic guitar. Indiginus acoustics a distant 2nd.
Real Guitar just seems to sit well in most mixes.
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It takes a while to acclimate to their velocity settings as they are different from most guitar plugs. Once you figure them out I think you'll agree that Real Guitar is one of the best of the bunch. I tend to vary my velocities in the 60-70 range. Everything sounds natural in that zone. 80-90 for harder notes.
Real LP is great but I rarely use Real Strat.
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Re: Strum Acoustic vs. RealGuitar
2014/03/31 18:28:42
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Before we forget Orange Tree Samples for acoustic guitar I thought I'd better mention Acoustic Slide and Steel Strings.
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Re: Strum Acoustic vs. RealGuitar
2014/03/31 23:50:07
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Mick . . . I am a long time MusicLab Real Guitar user . . . when I tried Strum Acoustic (the one that came free with X3) I played with it for an hour . . . well, there really was no contest. Real Guitar wins.
Like Paulo says earlier, if you already have Real Guitar 2, then Real Guitar 3 is just a cosmetic interface upgrade, no obvious notable change in the samples.
As far as Sonar 64 bit compatibility, Real Guitar 3 is 64 bit, and works seamlessly in my Sonar X3e install . . . so if your system has been upgraded since you used Real Guitar 2, it's one thing to consider ? (also, in my opinion Music Lab's product support is poor, if that's important to you in a software company)
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Re: Strum Acoustic vs. RealGuitar
2014/04/02 00:33:30
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Mick
Thank you both - I guess I'm gonna go with the reasonably-cheap RealGuitar/RealStrat combo - Any opinions on RealGuitar vs. Strat vs. LPC?
Well, real guitar is an acoutic. Of the two electrics they sound very different so it is a case of what sound you prefer. If I had to have one or the other I would go with the LPC. The big point with these electrics is the sound is clean, straight from the pickups, so you need to put them through an amp sim. If you have Kontakt, as other have mentioned Orange Tree Samples Steel Strings Acoustic and Strawberry Electric and very good. Indiginus have cheaper but useful electric and acoustic guitars for Kontakt. For another non-Kontakt option you may also want to look at Amplesound. I have not tried these myself but I have heard good reports.
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Re: Strum Acoustic vs. RealGuitar
2014/04/02 10:59:36
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Hi all,
Related question...
I have both RG2L and RS. I was running them (without issue) on a 32-bit system with 8.5P.
I recently moved to a 64-bit system running X2.
When I installed RG2L and tried running a track through it I am getting latency that wasn't there in the older config.
FWIW, I am also running some other VSTs and am *not* getting the latency with those.
Any thoughts as to why I am suddenly experiencing the latency issue with the RG VST?
Much thanks,
-Dennis
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paulo
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Re: Strum Acoustic vs. RealGuitar
2014/04/02 11:10:06
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AkronPark
Hi all,
Related question...
I have both RG2L and RS. I was running them (without issue) on a 32-bit system with 8.5P.
I recently moved to a 64-bit system running X2.
When I installed RG2L and tried running a track through it I am getting latency that wasn't there in the older config.
FWIW, I am also running some other VSTs and am *not* getting the latency with those.
Any thoughts as to why I am suddenly experiencing the latency issue with the RG VST?
Much thanks,
-Dennis
I went from 8.5/32 to X3 32 & 64 bit installations and haven't had any issues, so I would guess it's something in your set-up rather than RG which is the problem.
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Re: Strum Acoustic vs. RealGuitar
2014/04/02 11:21:22
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Re: Strum Acoustic vs. RealGuitar
2014/04/02 14:28:29
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Be aware, Real Strat gives you ONE instrument only. NO presets no nothing, a basic 40mb single strat..The size is nowhere near the alleged space required when it is installed..well over 400mb. At least Strum Electric gives you a LARGE amount of presets to start with and tweak out. Oh and there are NO effects in RS (you do get effects - O/D distortion etc etc) in the AAS instruments Oh and this is pretty important too, the standalone of RS gives no option for insert effects. Seems if you want to use (well FORCED to) an external effect you have to run RS in host.
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Re: Strum Acoustic vs. RealGuitar
2014/04/02 15:59:33
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cclarry
Just thought I'd add...AGM....those guitars are nice...
AGML is free....if you want to test drive...
http://www.amplesound.net/en/pro-pd.asp?id=4
Only works if your DAW is online though, unless they have changed it. I found out the hard way after having already wasted hours with downloads that failed in the last few seconds.
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Re: Strum Acoustic vs. RealGuitar
2014/04/02 18:50:34
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A couple others that you could consider are ilyaefimov (I like their acoustics), ChrisHein, PettinHouse and Vir2 Acou6tics. I personally equated ilyaefimov, Pettinghouse and Orangetree together and Acou6tics alng side of Amplesound. I ended up buying ilyaefimov over Orangetree and Acou6tics over Amplesound but I want them all. I just ran out of money.
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Re: Strum Acoustic vs. RealGuitar
2014/04/02 19:52:51
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Strum provides a very well thought out interface to allow a keyboard player to play like a real guitarist. Before making a decision, check out the video on the AAS site where somebody who really knows what they're doing constructs a totally compelling (IMO) performance. The video can be seen here: https://www.applied-acoustics.com/strumelectric/overview/ If you're interested, I just wrote a review in which I spend a fair amount of time describing how the interface works. You can read that here: http://soundbytesmag.net/aas-strum/
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Re: Strum Acoustic vs. RealGuitar
2014/04/02 22:03:47
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dmbaer
Strum provides a very well thought out interface to allow a keyboard player to play like a real guitarist. Before making a decision, check out the video on the AAS site where somebody who really knows what they're doing constructs a totally compelling (IMO) performance. The video can be seen here:
https://www.applied-acoustics.com/strumelectric/overview/
If you're interested, I just wrote a review in which I spend a fair amount of time describing how the interface works. You can read that here:
http://soundbytesmag.net/aas-strum/
Great review David Brando
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Re: Strum Acoustic vs. RealGuitar
2014/04/03 21:27:19
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Don't forget Vir2 Acou6tics in the list. When it comes to strumming it has one of the most powerful realtime strumming and chord detection engines! Go to YouTube and look for Acou6tics tutorials and the "Solitude on Guitar" MIDI demonstration (to show what's possible in terms of realism with Acou6tics)
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Re: Strum Acoustic vs. RealGuitar
2014/04/03 21:31:48
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Re: Strum Acoustic vs. RealGuitar
2014/04/03 22:29:37
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I have the full Strum Maker 4 and just received a free update from indiginus tonight. Great products and Great People!
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Re: Strum Acoustic vs. RealGuitar
2014/04/04 10:25:55
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I have the full Strum Maker 4 and just received a free update from indiginus tonight. Great products and Great People!
Just checked this out...that price is CRAZY good for what this does...
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Re: Strum Acoustic vs. RealGuitar
2014/04/04 13:41:33
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Still need kontakt though - full version according to the website. ouch! Lotsa $'s
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Re: Strum Acoustic vs. RealGuitar
2014/04/04 13:58:18
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joden
Still need kontakt though - full version according to the website. ouch! Lotsa $'s
Once you get Kontakt, it'll open up a LOT of doors to all the various instruments/sounds......and very good quality sounding instruments (plenty of 3rd party libraries). See if there's a crossgrade path available to get Kontakt.
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Re: Strum Acoustic vs. RealGuitar
2014/04/04 18:21:48
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If you're just needing basic strum sounds, I don't think you can beat Ample Sound AGML. Like Larry said, it's free, and you don't need Kontakt. It sounds great, although you're pretty much limited to open chords (higher frets are greyed out). http://www.amplesound.net/en/pro-pd.asp?id=7 Cheers, Eddie
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Re: Strum Acoustic vs. RealGuitar
2014/04/04 22:09:32
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Eddie TX
If you're just needing basic strum sounds, I don't think you can beat Ample Sound AGML. Like Larry said, it's free, and you don't need Kontakt. It sounds great, although you're pretty much limited to open chords (higher frets are greyed out).
http://www.amplesound.net/en/pro-pd.asp?id=7
Cheers,
Eddie
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Re: Strum Acoustic vs. RealGuitar
2014/04/12 01:37:53
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Eddie TX
If you're just needing basic strum sounds, I don't think you can beat Ample Sound AGML. Like Larry said, it's free, and you don't need Kontakt. It sounds great, although you're pretty much limited to open chords (higher frets are greyed out).
http://www.amplesound.net/en/pro-pd.asp?id=7
Cheers,
Eddie
Couldn't agree more Eddie...for FREE...this thing is amazing...
If I could justify it...I'd buy them all...
I bought 2 of the AmpleSound guitars - AGM & AGF just after they released their newest AGL classical guitar. This was just before Orange Tree's big sale last year. By buying the first 2 of them, it worked out that I got the 3rd one for free - [AGL]. Not a bad deal at all! A few free updates have been offered since then as well.
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