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Studio One - Introduction

Dear Sonar Users,
 
I would like to take the opportunity to introduce myself. I'm Arnd Kaiser, General Manager at PreSonus Software in Hamburg/Germany. We’re the development team behind Studio One, Notion, Capture and many other software components used in PreSonus products. As many others at PreSonus we were shocked by the news we received last week. It hurts to lose so much creative effort and so many talented people. We met many Cakewalk people over the years and as much as we’ve been competitors, we’ve also been technology partners (both using ARA technology co-developed by Celemony and PreSonus). 
 
On my side is Matthias Juwan (Chief Technology Officer), who is leading the development team and created the Studio One framework more than ten years ago. This cross-platform framework has grown and matured over the years and is now a foundation for many PreSonus software and hardware products as well as the key to our software/hardware integration. Matthias and myself, together with several senior developers on our team worked at Steinberg before joining PreSonus. I held the position of Product Manager for Cubase for 8 years. At PreSonus we found the perfect environment for realizing our own DAW ideas and principles. 
 
Studio One is based an a few core concepts which combine familiar features and workflows with some new and unique creative  ideas: 
 
  • simple and intuitive drag&drop operation helps keeping simple tasks really simple
  • context-sensitive controls to avoid complex menu-diving
  • key commands and macros allow for super-fast operation and workflow customization

 
I encourage you to take Studio One for a spin and find out about the similarities and differences compared to Sonar. Our special crossgrade offer extends to the end of this year. That’s plenty of time to discover what’s in it. Feel free to head over to the Forum or the Answers site to discuss. You will find a lot of useful tips and tricks to get the most out of Studio One. 
 
Many of the new features and improvements we’ve added to Studio One over time go back directly to feedback from the user community. I encourage you to send us your ideas at https://answers.presonus.com/index.php . We‘ll take a close look and discuss what can be added in future updates. 
 
Kind regards
Arnd
 
 
 
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Re: Studio One - Introduction 2017/11/30 12:16:06 (permalink)
Thanks Arnd for coming!


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Re: Studio One - Introduction 2017/11/30 12:27:02 (permalink)
Thanks for posting Arnd. 
 
I was at the first Presonusphere held in Baton Rouge a few years back. There were lots of discussion and explanation about how Studio 1 was built from the ground up to be a very efficient and capable DAW.
 
I got on board with S1 2. And started to dive into the new more mature program. But soon after I started learning S1, CW came out with X1 and I ended up diving in head first with them and not really going back to S1. 
 
Well since CW's sudden demise has prompted me to make a move, it was natural for me to go with S1. It was a great BF deal that I got. So I am now on board.
 
Thanks again for taking the time to address the forum members and making this generous offer to Sonar users.

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Re: Studio One - Introduction 2017/11/30 13:01:09 (permalink)
Thanks for the info Arnd.
 
Is there any kind of deal for getting both Studio One Pro and Notion together on the crossgrade?

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Re: Studio One - Introduction 2017/11/30 16:21:26 (permalink)
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Thanks for the info Arnd.
 
Is there any kind of deal for getting both Studio One Pro and Notion together on the crossgrade?




There's no direct crossgrade for both, but if you use the current special crossgrade from Sonar, you can then purchase a "crossgrade" from Studio One to Notion. Check our online shop for details. 

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Re: Studio One - Introduction 2017/11/30 16:29:51 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Sylvan 2017/12/03 16:19:28
Thanks for commenting here, Arnd.
S1 is per today the only contender for me, due to ARA and Console 1 integration.
I also appreciate the extended timeline given us to make that decision.
All the best.

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Re: Studio One - Introduction 2017/11/30 16:38:27 (permalink)
Arnd, thank you for posting this.  I just purchased Studio One today and your message brings with it a greater comfort.  I look forward to a long relationship with Presonus, like I have had with Cakewalk.  

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Re: Studio One - Introduction 2017/11/30 16:55:45 (permalink)
Arnd, thanks for posting here. I've emailed Presonus multiple times now and I've received no answer:
 
If I buy the crossgrade for Sonar and decide Studio One isn't for me and want to sell it...
 
Can I only sell that license to another Sonar user?
Can I sell the license to anyone who wants to crossgrade?
Or can I sell the license to anyone who wants to buy Studio One as a full license?
 
I'm assuming this is a crossgrade license only if I choose to sell it at some point but I wanted to clarify that.
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Re: Studio One - Introduction 2017/11/30 17:13:16 (permalink)
Thank you Arnd. I appreciate you coming over here.
 
I posted in the thread on why I chose SO3PRO over Cubase. It has the icon that says I posted, but it must have been deleted. I don't think I said any bad words. A mod must have yanked it for reasons unknown.
 
I won't repost all of what I typed. I'll simply say I think SO3PRO is the best thing going besides Sonar. With Sonar going away my choice was obvious. I will use SO3PRO as my main daw. All others are secondary at this point. I am utterly impressed with the rate at which Studio One has matured over these last several years. Don't think for a minute your work has gone unnoticed. Many here, like myself have been using Studio One and Sonar together for some time. I think you and your team should be congratulated on such fine work that you can be proud of.
 
You have found a good synchronicity between function and ease of use. Starting SO in cross platform was genius as well.
 
Thank you again,
 
All the best to you and the rest at Presonus!
 
 
 
 

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Re: Studio One - Introduction 2017/12/01 02:27:16 (permalink)
Thanks Arnd, I purchased SO on the Black Friday deal and won't look back. There are already things I like better about SO and a few things I miss from Sonar (Track Templates). So far there are more positives than negatives, so all is good.
 
I look forward to as long a stand with SO as I had with Sonar, which is too many years to mention.
 
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Re: Studio One - Introduction 2017/12/01 19:08:51 (permalink)
Anyone who ordered through JRRShop, how long did it take for them to get back to you with keys and stuff after you placed the order? I ordered S1 and Notion (both on crossgrade) I've been waiting for 11 hours so far.

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Re: Studio One - Introduction 2017/12/01 19:17:12 (permalink)
I placed my order on Wednesday 9pm, got the registration code on Thursday 4pm.

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Re: Studio One - Introduction 2017/12/03 02:00:42 (permalink)
So much to research -  I cannot find the offer for SONAR to Studio One.  Nor can I remember the price - can someone please post a link?
 
And I didnt understand - what was the way to get "Notion" along with Studio One?  For ???
 
How long is the deal for?
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: Studio One - Introduction 2017/12/03 02:43:31 (permalink)
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So much to research -  I cannot find the offer for SONAR to Studio One.  Nor can I remember the price - can someone please post a link?
 
And I didnt understand - what was the way to get "Notion" along with Studio One?  For ???
 
How long is the deal for?
 

Here https://www.jrrshop.com/presonus-studio-one-professional-crossgrade-v3. There is no deal to get Notion with it, but Overture is also on sale for Sonorites (in another thread) and you can also use that to buy the crossgrade to Notion (from JJR) - the cost of Overture and Notion crossgrade is less than Overture on its own, and both Overture and Notion are great software.

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Re: Studio One - Introduction 2017/12/03 04:33:24 (permalink)
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Anyone who ordered through JRRShop, how long did it take for them to get back to you with keys and stuff after you placed the order? I ordered S1 and Notion (both on crossgrade) I've been waiting for 11 hours so far.


Got mine the next day.

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Re: Studio One - Introduction 2017/12/04 18:22:25 (permalink)
Wow! Thanks so much for all your kind words. I look forward to hearing more about your new journey. Please make good use of the Studio One forum and "Answers". :)
 
Re. crossgrades and selling the license: I need to find out about that myself, actually. But - honestly - why would you do that at all? ;-)

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Re: Studio One - Introduction 2017/12/04 18:41:53 (permalink)
Just to add some feedback their support team are very quick with a response and very helpful too. I had 2 tickets and open and they were very helpful in fact I closed both tickets yesterday. One of the reasons I chose them was the full integration with Console 1, and now that I am up to speed am about to start migrations from SONAR.

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Re: Studio One - Introduction 2017/12/04 19:25:13 (permalink)
I guess Presonus are very fulfilling orders for Sonarians at the moment because after ordering from JJR last week it was a good two days before I received my license for S1 and I still haven't received the license for Notion yet!

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Re: Studio One - Introduction 2017/12/17 02:19:44 (permalink)
Got it!  Very nice, thanks!!!

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Re: Studio One - Introduction 2017/12/17 02:51:08 (permalink)
Arnd, Thank you for spending time here. I purchased StudioOne Pro last summer, mainly to collaborate with another artist.  At that time, I wasn't particularly eager to split time with SONAR because I felt I got better results faster with SONAR.
 
Be that as it may, I was very impressed with how intuitive the most common operations are in StudioOne.  I know that did not happen by accident.  That is the result of planning and vision, and I commend you and your team for that.  I also commend you for the concept of a specific mastering mode, rather than just encouraging people to throw some "mastering stuff" on the main mixing bus.  What you did there makes very good sense to me.  I had already invested in Ozone, and I believe I can achieve a higher quality result with Ozone (of course, I could use the Ozone plugs in the S1 mastering function.)  I certainly have used your mastering section to assemble CDs.
 
Finally, I want to congratulate you and your team for being the first to really recognize the possibilities that can come from the convergence of DAW and notation.  I view the current software as a first step that is not terribly useful as it exists today.  However, if you can get to the point that a user can compose freely in MIDI and in notation, at liberty to move from one mode to the other and back again, this will be enormously powerful and will expand the potential DAW market to include a large number of people who compose in notation.
 
In short, I think you are headed in a good direction.  Having said that, I am moving to Cubase as my main replacement for SONAR because I believe Cubase is considerably more advanced than S1 presently, e.g. in the chord support.  And I really cannot consider Notion at this stage because it is not nearly up to the functional level of Finale, which I have used for ~ 20 years.
 
Things change.  I don't see Finale keeping up, and expect to see them go the way of SONAR before too long.  I hope Notion and S1 will continue to advance rapidly because we will need those solutions.  And I am certainly not throwing away by S1 license.  I will certainly use S1 as needed for collaborations, and I will probably choose S1 over Cubase on any project that is likely to need Molodyne.
 
I wish you and your team well.  The work you are doing is recognized and appreciated.

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Re: Studio One - Introduction 2017/12/17 11:58:28 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2017/12/17 13:46:08
Arnd, I have a question for you. I know Studio One has sets of keyboard shortcuts to emulate those in some other DAWS, is there a chance a set to emulate Sonar's shortcuts might be implemented. It would really ease some of the burden of switching. Plus, I'm old and find it more difficult to learn new things the older I get. Ha ha!!



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Re: Studio One - Introduction 2017/12/17 13:48:12 (permalink)
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Arnd, I have a question for you. I know Studio One has sets of keyboard shortcuts to emulate those in some other DAWS, is there a chance a set to emulate Sonar's shortcuts might be implemented. It would really ease some of the burden of switching. Plus, I'm old and find it more difficult to learn new things the older I get. Ha ha!!


I like that idea
My muscle memory is full of SONAR keystrokes, and will take some time to get them replaced/added to S1.
All the best.

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Re: Studio One - Introduction 2017/12/17 15:28:06 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby abacab 2017/12/17 17:29:16
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Arnd, I have a question for you. I know Studio One has sets of keyboard shortcuts to emulate those in some other DAWS, is there a chance a set to emulate Sonar's shortcuts might be implemented. It would really ease some of the burden of switching. Plus, I'm old and find it more difficult to learn new things the older I get. Ha ha!!

Learning a new set of keyboard shortcuts, as in retraining muscle memory, is a lot of work and unintended consequences can happen.
 
One thing to consider, though, is that there are tons of excellent training videos for Studio One, and every single one of them uses the default keyboard shortcuts.
 
If you remap to SONAR shortcuts, you'll have to translate every reference (training videos, FAQs, forum posts, etc) in your head. For as long as you use SO.
 
Me? I'm just going to bite the bullet and learn the defaults.

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Re: Studio One - Introduction 2017/12/18 13:22:58 (permalink)
To me, the major keyboard shortcuts I continually stumble over in S1 are the navigation keys in Sonar. I lived in CTRL-PGUP and CTRL-PGDN. Most of the others actually make more sense than they did in Sonar.
 
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Re: Studio One - Introduction 2017/12/18 15:11:25 (permalink)
Take the effort to learn S1 keyboard shortcut. The rewards is worth the effort.

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Re: Studio One - Introduction 2017/12/18 17:37:01 (permalink)
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Arnd, Thank you for spending time here. I purchased StudioOne Pro last summer, mainly to collaborate with another artist.  At that time, I wasn't particularly eager to split time with SONAR because I felt I got better results faster with SONAR.
 
Be that as it may, I was very impressed with how intuitive the most common operations are in StudioOne.  I know that did not happen by accident.  That is the result of planning and vision, and I commend you and your team for that.  I also commend you for the concept of a specific mastering mode, rather than just encouraging people to throw some "mastering stuff" on the main mixing bus.  What you did there makes very good sense to me.  I had already invested in Ozone, and I believe I can achieve a higher quality result with Ozone (of course, I could use the Ozone plugs in the S1 mastering function.)  I certainly have used your mastering section to assemble CDs.
 
Finally, I want to congratulate you and your team for being the first to really recognize the possibilities that can come from the convergence of DAW and notation.  I view the current software as a first step that is not terribly useful as it exists today.  However, if you can get to the point that a user can compose freely in MIDI and in notation, at liberty to move from one mode to the other and back again, this will be enormously powerful and will expand the potential DAW market to include a large number of people who compose in notation.
 
In short, I think you are headed in a good direction.  Having said that, I am moving to Cubase as my main replacement for SONAR because I believe Cubase is considerably more advanced than S1 presently, e.g. in the chord support.  And I really cannot consider Notion at this stage because it is not nearly up to the functional level of Finale, which I have used for ~ 20 years.
 
Things change.  I don't see Finale keeping up, and expect to see them go the way of SONAR before too long.  I hope Notion and S1 will continue to advance rapidly because we will need those solutions.  And I am certainly not throwing away by S1 license.  I will certainly use S1 as needed for collaborations, and I will probably choose S1 over Cubase on any project that is likely to need Molodyne.
 
I wish you and your team well.  The work you are doing is recognized and appreciated.




Thanks for your kind words. I can only encourage everyone here to take a close look at Studio One and Notion like you did. There's a lot more to discover in terms of workflow than mentioned here. 

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Re: Studio One - Introduction 2017/12/18 17:39:51 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Karyn 2017/12/18 21:47:19
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Take the effort to learn S1 keyboard shortcut. The rewards is worth the effort.



I agree, at the same time I would certainly love to see a Sonar template for keyboard shortcuts. Maybe someone here can create one? I'd be happy to include it in one of the next updates. 

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Re: Studio One - Introduction 2017/12/19 17:01:19 (permalink)
Arnd Kaiser
.... I can only encourage everyone here to take a close look at Studio One and Notion like you did. There's a lot more to discover in terms of workflow than mentioned here. 



I also purchased SO3Pro and Notion 6. (I had a copy of Notion 4). After watching several videos on Groove 3 and other tutorials, I'm really impressed with the features in SO3Pro. After I finish up a few songs in Sonar, I'll switch over to SO3Pro as my main (only) DAW. I'm also going to purchase the FaderPort 16 when it becomes available and retire my X-Touch.
 
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Re: Studio One - Introduction 2017/12/20 13:40:48 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Marshall 2017/12/20 21:03:21
I purchased Studio One during the black Friday deal. The experience has been very positive so far. Although there are differences between Sonar and Studio One, there's not a single thing I was doing in Sonar that I haven't been able to do in Studio One. Other user's experience may vary of course depending on how they used Sonar.
 
Studio One's "last touched" automation workflow is extremely user friendly. Very clever and easier to use than Sonar's. Their automation lanes are also less buggy than Sonar's. I used to spend a lot of time cleaning up extra nodes in Sonar that seemed to just appear out of nowhere!
 
Right now, I'm still watching tutorial videos from Groove3 and Studio One Expert and learning something new every day. I hope Studio One has a long life and that i won't need to go through this again!
 
Thank you Arnd for dropping into this forum and extending a welcome hand. You'll see me on the PreSonus forums.

Peace!
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Re: Studio One - Introduction 2017/12/21 17:39:19 (permalink)
Would a copy of the 2000 page reference manual be any help? It has a whole section of keyboard shortcuts listed according to the window they work on.

Here’s a link to the Sonar Reference Guide.

https://1drv.ms/b/s!Ahg7GEVUP0Hf4y22xtZ6Nd52ag_-

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