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2011/08/02 01:28:37 (permalink)

Studio ponderings...

More like flat out daydreaming, but who cares?
 
I've been working on this custom house design that's pretty wild that I hope to someday make real (in some fashion or another - probably with a LOT of reluctant concessions to reality, but that's a different story...).  In any event, I've really enjoyed the exercise.
 
ANYWAY, if you were creating a custom house without any constraints, would you make your home studio upstairs (i.e., above ground) or downstairs (i.e., in a basement-like area)? Or, even using both to create a multi-level studio?  I'm thinking downstairs to keep the sound in check, then I think upstairs so that it will be bright and inviting.  The "both" idea came when I considered what I could do with the ceilings - lots of angles, headroom, levels and space...  (I love dreaming!)
 
So, given free reign to design any home studio that you'd want, what would you put in and leave out?  (And why?)

 
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    Re:Studio ponderings... 2011/08/02 03:32:38 (permalink)
    Funny, I've had some similar day dreams.  So, if I won the Lotto and decided to build a studio... 

    I think I'd try to keep the studio on the ground floor.  It could be on the second floor if I built the house on a hill.  The reasoning behind this is that the equipment would have to be carried up a flight of stairs.  People would get a good work out, but that will add to the set up time.  I probably use wide double doors and have parking or a car port very close to the studio make it easy to load and unload all those amps.  I might even set up the recording area like a mini-theater so I could hire bands and invite friends to the show. 

    If the building code allows it--I build an equipment room next to the control room and the studio with the studs 19" apart. The idea is to rack mount stuff in the wall facing the control room where you can adjust the settings and have extra air conditioning in the equipment room to keep the equipment and PC's cool without adding noise to the studio. 

    I'd also try for solar power.  Just to keep costs down and to avoid brown-outs and black-out in the summer and other situations.  I hate having to shut things down becuase the utilities are screwed up.  A completely green
    building would be nice, but not absolutely necessary.  I suspect there might be a few concessions to be made when thinking about going green.  I haven't researched it, so I'm not ruling it out. 

    With all the catastrophes, we've been experiencing, I would also do some research on the location.  If the studio was to be here in Southern California, I think I'd do my best to make it earthquake resistant and fire resistant.  It would be a regional thing.  I try to find the best design for tornadoes in the Mid-west, or hurricanes on the east coast.  It should to be able to stay reasonably safe--if at all possible.  I'm not saying it would take any damage.  I'm just trying to minimize it so I would have some shelter after an event and possibly be able to share it with my neighbors. 

    Yikes!  That go a long winded.  I guess that's enough for now.   
    post edited by Old55 - 2011/08/02 03:33:43

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    Re:Studio ponderings... 2011/08/02 04:35:45 (permalink)
    "I'd also try for solar power.  Just to keep costs down and to avoid brown-outs and black-out in the summer and other situations. "

    check out these guys- www.locrian.com.au/banjo/banjo.html
                                  www.sunpowerstudios.com.au/studio_gear.html

    but keep an eye out for the industrial diesel generators-in the background-i,ve been solar for 15 years but an 8hr session with a  live 5 piece band needs more than the sun and batteries-especially with the dreaded aircon-unless you record accoustic in the daytime??
    there are varying shades of green -it`s the effort that matters-turning dreams into reality is what we`re wired for.
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    Re:Studio ponderings... 2011/08/02 04:42:17 (permalink)
    oops,wrong link-try this:http://www.sunpowerstudios.com.au/

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    Re:Studio ponderings... 2011/08/02 08:28:15 (permalink)
    I built a new home about 5 years ago. There is currently an unfinished basement with two rooms that supports the idea of a control room and a live space. The control room area has smurf (IIRC) tubes running up to an extra upstairs bedroom for future wiring. Recently did a revamp of that area (upstairs) with built in cabinets to house all of my rack mounted gear...and a fantastic new DAW from Jim Roseberry. I did pay some extra attention to grounding issues upstairs and the room ceiling isn't flat - probably about 12' high at peak.

    If I had the money and the need I would probably finish off the basement but I think I would keep the upstairs as my auxiliary control room. I'd use the downstairs for tracking live drums and vocals and, occasionally small groups.

    For me the upstairs studio space works well. I'm primarily a solo player/composer but I dream of a full studio in the basement. Not because I need it but it just seems like it would be really cool (LOL). 

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    Re:Studio ponderings... 2011/08/02 09:32:40 (permalink)
    I'd build it underground.  That way, I could still have it.  If it's above ground, it belongs to my wife and I don't get to put my stuff in it. 

    I'm just happy I still get to sleep and eat indoors.
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    Re:Studio ponderings... 2011/08/02 09:37:30 (permalink)
    Since I'm pretty much in my dream home, I dream a separate structure/studio on the property we have the physical space. 

    It's about 25'x60' with the last 12' of the 60' being the control room raised about 2' above the tracking room. There is actually water and sewer drainage there (the space was destined as an RV storage), so I could conceivably have a small bathroo (i.e. toilet, sink & shower).
    I would go solar power.

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    Re:Studio ponderings... 2011/08/02 09:42:18 (permalink)
    I tried using solar power in my basement, but I wasn't able to get enough sunlight.  It's okay now, though.  I have all the power I need and then some. 

    I put in a nuclear reactor instead.  The cooling tank doubles as a hot tub. 
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    Re:Studio ponderings... 2011/08/02 10:27:27 (permalink)
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    I tried using solar power in my basement, but I wasn't able to get enough sunlight.  It's okay now, though.  I have all the power I need and then some. 

    I put in a nuclear reactor instead.  The cooling tank doubles as a hot tub. 

    Is that why you glow in the dark?

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    Re:Studio ponderings... 2011/08/02 11:48:25 (permalink)
    I hadn't noticed.  I've been too busy working out how to use these flippers.  The gills have come in handy on occasion.  The whole telepathy thing, though, is a real bother. 
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    Re:Studio ponderings... 2011/08/02 13:43:55 (permalink)
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    ...I'm primarily a solo player/composer but I dream of a full studio in the basement. Not because I need it but it just seems like it would be really cool (LOL). 

    Yep, that's pretty much where I'd be coming from.  Like I said, I'm just dreaming.


     
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    Re:Studio ponderings... 2011/08/02 14:14:10 (permalink)
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    oops,wrong link-try this:http://www.sunpowerstudios.com.au/


    In my dream studio/home, I'd probably call them right after the architect/acoustics designer. 

    I guess I better get those Lotto tickets, so I have a shot at this thing. 

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    Re:Studio ponderings... 2011/08/02 16:33:12 (permalink)
    Heh, just checked out that solar link.  Needless to say, considering what our business does, my dream house will be using alternative energy.  I'm very surprised that he can do anything with only a 3kw solar system, that's very, very low (a typical house is probably close to using 11kw).  For mine, I would probably combine several technologies including a wind turbine, hydro (if possible), geothermal, solar and some innovative storage options that aren't available yet.  Of these energy sources, solar is by far the least efficient (with hydro being the most).

    To put it in perspective, if you use two hair-dryers, you would overload his system.  No idea how he can run a lot of gear without wearing out his battery banks.

     
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    Re:Studio ponderings... 2011/08/02 16:42:29 (permalink)

    I just want a plush tantric love nest populated with a few Lingerie Football teams.

    Maybe some studio gear in there too.

    Perhaps a team to take care of all my wants and needs.

    Solar power? whatever.

    Hey, that's pretty close to what I have already, I may need to re-negotiate the Football teams, that may be a little ambitious.

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    Re:Studio ponderings... 2011/08/02 16:45:30 (permalink)
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    I just want a plush tantric love nest populated with a few Lingerie Football teams.

    Maybe some studio gear in there too.

    Perhaps a team to take care of all my wants and needs.

    Solar power? whatever.

    Hey, that's pretty close to what I have already, I may need to re-negotiate the Football teams, that may be a little ambitious.

    You already have Wayne Rooney in a g-string???
     
    (Personally, I'd be a bit more specific about your desires there mate. )

     
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    Re:Studio ponderings... 2011/08/02 17:15:18 (permalink)

    My decadence knows no bounds.

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    Re:Studio ponderings... 2011/08/02 18:44:28 (permalink)
    ever get the feelin you`ve wasted a reply??


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    To put it in perspective, if you use two hair-dryers, you would overload his system. No idea how he can run a lot of gear without wearing out his battery banks.



    "but keep an eye out for the industrial diesel generators-in the background-i,ve been solar for 15 years but an 8hr session with a  live 5 piece band needs more than the sun and batteries-especially with the dreaded aircon-unless you record accoustic in the daytime?? "

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    Re:Studio ponderings... 2011/08/02 18:54:54 (permalink)
    webbs hill studio


    ever get the feelin you`ve wasted a reply??


    Every bloody time mate.


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    Re:Studio ponderings... 2011/08/02 18:58:07 (permalink)
    Now Ed, behave ;)


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    Re:Studio ponderings... 2011/08/02 19:00:11 (permalink)
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    Now Ed, behave ;)

    Me?


    I'm having fun.


    You told me to do so.


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    Re:Studio ponderings... 2011/08/02 19:04:29 (permalink)
    Sorry Sir, an older cat made me type that words
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    Re:Studio ponderings... 2011/08/02 20:03:25 (permalink)
    now that`s better-finallly a topic i`m fluent with and my opinion seemed to have been overlooked-hence the petulant reply.
    i`m just annoyed at all the misleading claims made about solar.
    Sunpower use a 11kva diesel backup-i use a 6.5kva kohler and it ****s`me when i read "Jack Johnson goes solar"etc.
    putting a few panels on the roof when you`re grid connected is fine but not solar powered!
    i didn`t go solar to be green,although thats a good thing,the nearest power is 3miles away and 130k to install.
    without the studio (average 4500watts)we could live with the solar,just no hair or clothes dryers,led not plasma,gas fridges,wood heating and gravity fed water-it`s definately a lifestyle choice and we do take for granted turning on that switch..
    if you count in the diesel exhaust,lead acid batteries and the carbon from the wood smoke it`s a brownish shade of green.
    if you`re grid connected by all means install panels as they will pay for themselves and if you`re concerned about brownouts install an inline UPS.
    Craigb-at least your dream is feasible and possible-i`m never going to get that early  Porsche 928.

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