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StudioWare is dead, isn't it?
I came across StudioWare in the later chapters of Scott's book and it seemed like an option to get remote access to the TD-20X drum module. I wouldn't even mind some programming ...
Researching forum and web says it's outdated, not supported for ages, no designer available ...
Anybody still using it???
Does anybody know anything similar??? Something that could turn outboard gear into a VST instrument like feature?
It's not terribly important, but since I'm yet again rearranging my creative environment, the options would be good to know.
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Re:StudioWare is dead, isn't it?
2011/08/30 08:43:00
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It's probably working fine for those who still use whatever hardware it supported in the first place. I used to use it for my SW1000XG and my Pod 2 but there were always better options
so I didn't use them after I discovered the alternatives.
I have the POd X3 live now which comes with Gearbox (for stand alone use, and pod farm 2 for use within Sonar
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Re:StudioWare is dead, isn't it?
2011/08/30 09:47:42
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I'm using Gearbox myself to control the X3 Pod Pro. I find it quite comfortable and that actually got me started looking for something similar to access the drum module which is hooked up to the kit by 15+ cables and therefore hard to move closer to the console ... Any ideas on a manageable way to build a MIDI GUI for the most relevant parameters at least ... like dialing up a different kick sound, snare tuning ... ?
post edited by FreeFlyBertl - 2011/08/31 01:32:08
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Re:StudioWare is dead, isn't it?
2011/08/30 10:17:01
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Studioware still works for sure...
If you've got the time, and an older copy of Sonar (I think Studioware building got dropped somewhere near Sonar 5, but I'm not really sure of that...) You can build any Studioware app you'd like...
They're not very easy to build, but they're not really hard either... I built a few (Such as my Drawbar Panel for a Kurzweill K2500 B3 Mode)...
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Re:StudioWare is dead, isn't it?
2011/08/30 11:42:07
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Keni
Studioware still works for sure...
If you've got the time, and an older copy of Sonar (I think Studioware building got dropped somewhere near Sonar 5, but I'm not really sure of that...) You can build any Studioware app you'd like...
They're not very easy to build, but they're not really hard either... I built a few (Such as my Drawbar Panel for a Kurzweill K2500 B3 Mode)...
Keni
Pretty sure the editor disappeared after Sonar 1 or 2 (I didn't get 2) and was in Pro Audio 9. Brian
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Re:StudioWare is dead, isn't it?
2011/08/30 12:44:23
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Re:StudioWare is dead, isn't it?
2011/08/30 12:47:23
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Thanks Brian...
I truly don't remember... I wrote my apps using it back then and haven't had a need to create any since... For some older gear tho, they come in handy... The only one I ever used (and still do upon occassion) is my Drawbars... I have another Studioware Panel for my old ART SGX2000Express which is long out of production and I depend on it (the hardware) every day... I don't even remember what that one did for the SGX! ;-)
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Re:StudioWare is dead, isn't it?
2011/08/30 15:30:28
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Keni
Thanks Brian...
I truly don't remember... I wrote my apps using it back then and haven't had a need to create any since... For some older gear tho, they come in handy... The only one I ever used (and still do upon occassion) is my Drawbars... I have another Studioware Panel for my old ART SGX2000Express which is long out of production and I depend on it (the hardware) every day... I don't even remember what that one did for the SGX! ;-)
Keni
Keni, I dabbled in Studioware a bit - also to work with an ART (SGE I think.) The ART unit is gone to a young guitarist - and Studioware, alas, gone too! : ) Can't say I've missed it though - there are tons of hardware units that come with soft editors now. Brian
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Re:StudioWare is dead, isn't it?
2011/08/30 16:07:02
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I have an EQ unit that came with editing software but no longer works with my current OS (Windows 7 64 bit). I corresponded with Cakewalk a ways back on the possibility of getting StudioWare for this very purpose. I was told that unless I had a version that supported included SW editor, I was out of luck. I haven't looked on the bay but I doubt there are many unopened boxes of Pro Audio or Sonar 1 or 2 for sale.
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Re:StudioWare is dead, isn't it?
2011/08/30 17:43:32
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Keni
Thanks Brian...
I truly don't remember... I wrote my apps using it back then and haven't had a need to create any since... For some older gear tho, they come in handy... The only one I ever used (and still do upon occassion) is my Drawbars... I have another Studioware Panel for my old ART SGX2000Express which is long out of production and I depend on it (the hardware) every day... I don't even remember what that one did for the SGX! ;-)
Keni
Keni,
I dabbled in Studioware a bit - also to work with an ART (SGE I think.) The ART unit is gone to a young guitarist - and Studioware, alas, gone too! : )
Can't say I've missed it though - there are tons of hardware units that come with soft editors now.
Brian
Hi Brian... I've got an SGE in a rack somewhere that has always had an intermittent problem, so I've never really used it... The SGX2000Express tho is a beast of a very different color... It's too bad they couldn't continue developing the line. (They no longer have a software department and develop hardware-only)... this box has a tube preamp as well as a pure analog chain of analog tube/solid-state pre-amp and analog eq (mono with a mono insert point) with a digital stereo chain of the run of guitar fx which can be run parallel to or in series or various blends.... So I use it for direct recordings as well as the preamp and multi-fx for my live guitar rig (Currently with a Crown DC300 for power into a Marshall 1960A 4x12 cabinet)... I wish I could remember what my ART studioware did... ;-) Keni
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Re:StudioWare is dead, isn't it?
2011/08/30 19:13:13
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Hmmm...
I wonder if I'm doing something wrong or if there's a problem (bug?) with studioware?
I just tried to load one of my studioware panels and it appeared to accept if but the panel's no where to be seen/found...
I'm gonna try some factory supplied...
Keni
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Re:StudioWare is dead, isn't it?
2011/08/30 19:16:07
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Re:StudioWare is dead, isn't it?
2011/08/30 19:34:53
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garrigus
Keni,
For some reason the panels will open behind the Track view. If you restore the Track view so that it's not maximized, you should see the panel.
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Thanks Scott... I tried that when I loaded my own panel and didn't find anything there... I'll try if 1st with a factory panel If that doesn't work 2nd after disabling Sonar Plus and removing my mods... Thanks again.... Keni [edit] Thanks for the xtra push Scott... It turns out that it is loading them all as it should... Even my self-made panels are loading.... Now if I can figure out (remember) how to use them I can see if they still work! ;-) I even opened my SGX2000 Panel so I see what I made and long forgot about... It turns out to be the basic control set... It allows me to enable/disable any fx from the patch (if they're programmed into the particular patch - Basically an on-screen X15 foot board... I may even start using it again! ;-) Same for the KB3 Panel - Drawbars for the K2500 series KB3 mode... I forgot that I had this! I use my KB3 mode for most of my B3 needs... ;-) Keni
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Re:StudioWare is dead, isn't it?
2011/08/31 01:57:23
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I corresponded with Cakewalk a ways back on the possibility of getting StudioWare for this very purpose. I was told that unless I had a version that supported included SW editor, I was out of luck. Well, that was sort of the conclusion of my web/forum research before I started this thread ... Hmmm, so those few who still have a PC with an old Sonar version can still use Studioware. Unfortunately I was on Cubase in my early recording days and then took a break to pursue a "real" career. I only got back into the game with Sonar X1 (which I'm quite happy with BTW so pls don't turn this into another Sonar bashing thread - there seem to be more out there already than those containing useful information) Anyway, I reckon I keep my eyes open for a generic/customizable MIDI remote controller. I don't think I actually need recording knob movements to Sonar tracks so much. Twisting knobs and save/restore would probably do, even outside of Sonar ... as long as it is fairly intuitive (i.e. Line 6 Gearbox like) ... just don't want to use preset #681 for a BCR like controller where I never remember the knob assignments ...
post edited by FreeFlyBertl - 2011/08/31 02:00:33
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