Ron Vogel
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Re:Sub-bass...lots of it...too much? Psychodelic rock
2011/08/07 20:37:28
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doenst seem bass heavy here at all.. (listening on headset on my laptop). ill take another listen in my studio tomorrow.
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Re:Sub-bass...lots of it...too much? Psychodelic rock
2011/08/07 21:30:41
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I dont hear any 'sub' bass at all... if its heavy on anything, its the vibrato in the vocals.
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Re:Sub-bass...lots of it...too much? Psychodelic rock
2011/08/08 10:39:30
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Bass is fine. Could bring it up a tad. Very nice job on the mx. The instrumental performance is great. Need to add some reverb on the vocals to give it some space.
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Ron Vogel
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Re:Sub-bass...lots of it...too much? Psychodelic rock
2011/08/18 23:45:24
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OK....did a little more work on it...;)
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Re:Sub-bass...lots of it...too much? Psychodelic rock
2011/08/19 08:28:59
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Sounds very 1973-CSNY-ish. Nothing says cool quite like a police siren in a tune!
+1 on the vibrato...if you could just hold the note straight until a 1/4 note or so nstead of going right into it, it would be more effective. You can sing, no doubt about that!
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Re:Sub-bass...lots of it...too much? Psychodelic rock
2011/08/19 11:40:38
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IMO, you have a great mix. I think everything sits in the mix well in it's own space and comes together really well. Everything has definition and the mix isn't muddy at all. There are a few places where I think that the vocals could come up front a little more (when the instruments get loud). In the quiet passage around the 4:00 minute mark, the vocals, IMO, are perfect in the mix.
It would be cool to fade back in after a few seconds with the instruments but with some parts played backward... fade to full then out.
I like your mix a LOT. I like the bass. I only listened to the second mix. Very nice indeed t these ears! I listened through K-240 phones and my laptop card with no enhancements.
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Re:Sub-bass...lots of it...too much? Psychodelic rock
2011/08/19 13:54:47
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The bass sounds fine on my monitors. I think the crunchy guitar could come up a wee tad. The vocal vibrato sounds fine to me too, with good harmony too. I love the tone on the lead guitar. Solid songwriting. Good effort, Ron, a satisfying listen.
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Re:Sub-bass...lots of it...too much? Psychodelic rock
2011/08/19 17:04:31
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Bass sounds good on my monitors. Really drives the song.
Cool song - and cool voice Ron. Great job on the mix - it is really well balanced. I wouldn't mind hearing it with the electric guitars a little more prominent though.
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Ron Vogel
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Re:Sub-bass...lots of it...too much? Psychodelic rock
2011/08/19 20:44:21
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I wish that the electric could come up more...but it's really awful! I tried to upgrade my studio at the time I was putting this tune together a year or so ago. I sold a pair of KRK V8 series 1 and a custom Princeton Reverb to buy a pair of Yamaha MSP7's (which I got NEW for $559 a pair shipped!) and a Marshall class 5. I did the electric with the Marshall...and it's really fizzy/cheap sounding recorded. I'd probably be best served to rerecord that part, but I think the mix is decent enough to move on. I advise people to RUN AWAY from the Class 5 whenever I can. I recorded 3 tunes with it, and each was a nightmare to get the electric to sound good. Mud or fizz...take your pick; it's got both!
I sold that amp about a month after I got it and bought a basketcase '67 Univox U45B, restored it and sold it for double what I bought it for. Got a '72 champ off Craigslist with the proceeds for $200, and dropped another 200 into a full restoration and a custom Weber speaker. Never looked back. The Champ ALWAYS delivers with no issues. Sorry for the rant...I really like my Champ!
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Re:Sub-bass...lots of it...too much? Psychodelic rock
2011/08/20 20:33:15
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Just listening on my laptop and this definitely deserves some real monitors. I always enjoy your songs and hearing you sing, and this is no exception.
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Re:Sub-bass...lots of it...too much? Psychodelic rock
2011/08/20 20:57:29
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Re:Sub-bass...lots of it...too much? Psychodelic rock
2011/08/22 20:36:08
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Ron,
I am listening on my PC with a sub which usually produces emphasis on bass. I am getting hardly anything on this so I would say there is not too much bass.
So yeah, the tune is very cool. The vibe is pretty hard to pin down for me but it doesn't matter cause it is just good. The guitar lead is great. Vocals remind me of Geoff Tate from Queensryche (think Sign O The Times CD timeframe).
Nice work. Thanks for the comments on the Marshall Class 5. I am hovering around buying an all tube amp (my first) and that one crossed my radar. I want something that is good for studio work since that is my sole need at this time. The one band I was in years ago was fronted by a friend of mine (guitar player/singer) and he had a Champ that was just a great sounding. He didn't use any effects but always got the thing to sing.
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Re:Sub-bass...lots of it...too much? Psychodelic rock
2011/08/22 21:38:06
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On the bass.... yeah it's heavy and low. but not uncomfortably so, I'm listening on some nice buds and I can hear it really well. CSNY does come to mind. The vox and the rest of the mix is pretty much in your face and present. Nice backwards guitar..... sweet tone. I enjoyed the listen. edit: on a powered studio sub I'll bet this one shakes the floor. I don't usually load a tune into my DAW to listen, but curiosity might get me tomorrow morning.... just to see, cause I can hear lots of activity in the lower registers.
post edited by Guitarhacker - 2011/08/22 21:40:16
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Ron Vogel
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Re:Sub-bass...lots of it...too much? Psychodelic rock
2011/08/23 15:06:07
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CreatingNoise
Ron,
I am listening on my PC with a sub which usually produces emphasis on bass. I am getting hardly anything on this so I would say there is not too much bass.
So yeah, the tune is very cool. The vibe is pretty hard to pin down for me but it doesn't matter cause it is just good. The guitar lead is great. Vocals remind me of Geoff Tate from Queensryche (think Sign O The Times CD timeframe).
Nice work. Thanks for the comments on the Marshall Class 5. I am hovering around buying an all tube amp (my first) and that one crossed my radar. I want something that is good for studio work since that is my sole need at this time. The one band I was in years ago was fronted by a friend of mine (guitar player/singer) and he had a Champ that was just a great sounding. He didn't use any effects but always got the thing to sing.
If you can swing it, the Princeton reverb reissue is KILLER to record with...and actually quieter than the Class 5 if you can believe that! Just don't go for the Princeton Recording...I had that one too, it's very hissy, and the on-board effects/power attenuator are garbage...waste of money. I play mainly through my Telecaster, and paired with the Class 5 actually sound very good...but record poorly for some odd reason. I did mod mine pretty extensively but it would not make the amp friendly. You can see some of my mod stuff here: http://music-electronics-forum.com/t19680/
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Re:Sub-bass...lots of it...too much? Psychodelic rock
2011/08/23 17:14:25
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Sounds very good. Singer reminds me of the Styx singer. Liked the guitar.
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Re:Sub-bass...lots of it...too much? Psychodelic rock
2011/08/24 08:03:11
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Sounds great to me. Funky tune which i enjoyed a lot.
Mark.
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Ian Ferrin
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Re:Sub-bass...lots of it...too much? Psychodelic rock
2011/08/24 09:09:23
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Really cool tune. The bass is fine. The overall song has an epic feel to it and the arrangement doesn't disappoint. You keep it interesting. Really well done.
Somebody else mentioned the vocal. I think the vocal is good but it might benefit from some processing. Just to give it a bit more energy.
I enjoyed your tune.
Peace,
Ian
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