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Sweetwater how to transfer projects from Sonar

Sweetwater has a video on How to Open Sonar Projects in other DAWs. You can find it on there site on the bottom of the home page in the inSync Blog section. Thought you guys might find it useful. 
 
 
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Re: Sweetwater how to transfer projects from Sonar 2017/12/16 01:27:53 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby pentimentosound 2017/12/16 14:05:06
The video
 


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Re: Sweetwater how to transfer projects from Sonar 2017/12/16 01:29:55 (permalink)
Cool thanks for posting it for me. 
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Re: Sweetwater how to transfer projects from Sonar 2017/12/16 01:31:07 (permalink)

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Re: Sweetwater how to transfer projects from Sonar 2017/12/16 02:00:54 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby tenfoot 2017/12/16 13:28:18
Wow, it took Sweetwater to figure out how to export stems for importing into another DAW.
 
Brilliant 1990s technology.
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Re: Sweetwater how to transfer projects from Sonar 2017/12/16 07:17:28 (permalink)
Whew, we definitely have the best looking DAW. I've not seen some of the newer ones in a while. They all look primitive and lame compared to Sonar. PT actually looked decent for a change. I'm so bummed about Sonar. :(

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Re: Sweetwater how to transfer projects from Sonar 2017/12/16 11:03:01 (permalink)
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Wow, it took Sweetwater to figure out how to export stems for importing into another DAW.
 
Brilliant 1990s technology.
lol I know, every DAW user in the universe will have the common sense to do that
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Re: Sweetwater how to transfer projects from Sonar 2017/12/16 11:39:53 (permalink)
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Whew, we definitely have the best looking DAW. I've not seen some of the newer ones in a while. They all look primitive and lame compared to Sonar. PT actually looked decent for a change. I'm so bummed about Sonar. :(


 
Agreed. Although I would argue that Logic X is likewise appealing. And I am deeply fond of the way Reason looks.


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Re: Sweetwater how to transfer projects from Sonar 2017/12/16 13:39:12 (permalink)
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Whew, we definitely have the best looking DAW. I've not seen some of the newer ones in a while. They all look primitive and lame compared to Sonar. PT actually looked decent for a change. I'm so bummed about Sonar. :(

 
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Re: Sweetwater how to transfer projects from Sonar 2017/12/16 13:56:52 (permalink)
Even at full screen I can barely see what they're doing. Was the soundtrack made in PT?

post edited by soens - 2017/12/16 14:23:37
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Re: Sweetwater how to transfer projects from Sonar 2017/12/16 14:00:35 (permalink)
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Whew, we definitely have the best looking DAW. I've not seen some of the newer ones in a while. They all look primitive and lame compared to Sonar. PT actually looked decent for a change. I'm so bummed about Sonar. :(



Everyone's saying that NOW. But remember when X came out? Forums were loaded with angst and many users/posters never upgraded. Colored strips & Tungsten helped but initially few liked the new look.
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Re: Sweetwater how to transfer projects from Sonar 2017/12/16 14:05:17 (permalink)

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Re: Sweetwater how to transfer projects from Sonar 2017/12/16 14:27:35 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby pentimentosound 2017/12/16 14:33:04
You can simply highlight all the tracks and drag them out of Sonar to wherever you want them.
 
Freeze, render, process &/or bounce each one 1st if you want them to have FX and settings in place.
 
OMF will not export your MIDI tracks. Have to be done separately.
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Re: Sweetwater how to transfer projects from Sonar 2017/12/16 14:29:22 (permalink)
I appreciate the article/video. I've never exported "stems" to another DAW that way, so it will help.
Thanks Soens and LOSTinSWIRL
 
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ps   Actually I've exported tracks for a former student/client before he chose his DAW. So I sent him a mix and then WAV files of each track without FX.
post edited by pentimentosound - 2017/12/16 15:05:23
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Re: Sweetwater how to transfer projects from Sonar 2017/12/16 14:43:36 (permalink)
That was excellent.  thx for posting.

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Re: Sweetwater how to transfer projects from Sonar 2017/12/16 15:32:54 (permalink)
Studio One does not import/export .OMF files.  What is best alternative.

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Re: Sweetwater how to transfer projects from Sonar 2017/12/16 16:01:00 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby pentimentosound 2017/12/16 16:20:36
In exporting midi, I've chosen to reset the midi-offset before export and setting it again in Cubase. Otherwise, the export will include the offset.

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Re: Sweetwater how to transfer projects from Sonar 2017/12/16 16:39:59 (permalink)
What is the advantage of doing as "save as" for MIDI as opposed to exporting the MIDI tracks?
 
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Re: Sweetwater how to transfer projects from Sonar 2017/12/16 16:43:30 (permalink)
I suspect to assign Midi format 1 to the file, but wondered that myself.
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Re: Sweetwater how to transfer projects from Sonar 2017/12/16 17:21:54 (permalink)
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What is the advantage of doing as "save as" for MIDI as opposed to exporting the MIDI tracks?
 
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My guess is to have a clean midi only file to slide over to the new DAW
 
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Re: Sweetwater how to transfer projects from Sonar 2017/12/16 17:43:07 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby pentimentosound 2017/12/16 18:07:59
If you save as a midifile you also get the tempo map for the project.
 
Midifile type 1 = separate channels on separate tracks.

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Re: Sweetwater how to transfer projects from Sonar 2017/12/16 18:09:24 (permalink)
I wonder if the tempo file will "pass through" to a new DAW....
Thanks tenfoot for the bit about separate tracks.
Midi file type 0 doesn't do that?
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Re: Sweetwater how to transfer projects from Sonar 2017/12/16 18:41:50 (permalink)
Midi type 1 preserves midi and all track automation, from my experience. It does not include tempo maps. It does include markers as a separate marker track.
 

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Re: Sweetwater how to transfer projects from Sonar 2017/12/16 19:16:00 (permalink)
Does OMF file include midi and tempo maps?
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Re: Sweetwater how to transfer projects from Sonar 2017/12/16 19:33:35 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby pentimentosound 2017/12/16 19:48:51
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Re: Sweetwater how to transfer projects from Sonar 2017/12/16 19:55:50 (permalink)
Thanks Steve.
I got this from Sweetwater
Type 1 files contain separate information for each track. For a Type 0 file, however, all the tracks are merged into a single track, although MIDI channel information is still retained. When a Type 0 file is loaded into a sequencer, it will take each channel’s information and put it on a separate track. So for a typical sequence with one track per MIDI channel, it will normally not matter if the sequence is saved as Type 0 or Type 1.
But if your source sequence has several tracks assigned to the same MIDI channel (for example several drum tracks playing the same program on the same channel, but with an individual drum sound on each track), then it is best to export it as a Type 1 file. If exported as Type 0, all tracks assigned to the same channel will be merged into a single track when the .MID file is loaded.
 
It'd been a while since I've thought or had to think about any of this! LOL
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Re: Sweetwater how to transfer projects from Sonar 2017/12/17 00:43:25 (permalink)
As stated above... OMF does nothing to, or for, MIDI. It only handles audio.
 
MIDI tracks can be dragged/exported individually or saved as a complete midi file that can be played by any midi player (ie MS Media Player).
 
To my knowledge there's no way to preserve an entire project into a file that can be imported elsewhere totally intact. It will require some work to set them up in a new DAW.
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Re: Sweetwater how to transfer projects from Sonar 2017/12/17 03:02:19 (permalink)
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Midi type 1 preserves midi and all track automation, from my experience. It does not include tempo maps. It does include markers as a separate marker track.
 


Midi type1 should include tempo and time signature changes.

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Re: Sweetwater how to transfer projects from Sonar 2017/12/17 03:05:17 (permalink)
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I wonder if the tempo file will "pass through" to a new DAW....
Thanks tenfoot for the bit about separate tracks.
Midi file type 0 doesn't do that?
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Time signature and tempo changes will show up in the file opened on the new DAW Michael.

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How to Open SONAR Projects in Another DAW 2017/12/20 00:49:08 (permalink)
Howdy everyone, My old friend, David Spires, just sent me a link that some of you might find helpful to those of us who plan to use SONAR files in another DAW. 
https://www.sweetwater.com/insync/how-to-open-sonar-projects-in-other-daws/?utm_content=article2-button&utm_source=insync&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20171216
 
 
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Long story-short... The orders were coming in so fast that we couldn't keep up with the demand.  The manager, with his foot-long cigar hanging out of his spout, told us we HAD to speed things up.  Remember, this was the CUSTOM Shop at GIBSON! The next day guitars were being sprayed a final finish...but the next morning those guitars were sent to BUFFING!  Understand that overnight is simply not long enough for a finish to dry, much less be polished!
 
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Anyway, if you don't know how to open SONAR files in another DAW, check out this video.  Take care everyone.
 
 https://www.sweetwater.com/insync/how-to-open-sonar-projects-in-other-daws/?utm_content=article2-button&utm_source=insync&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20171216
 

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