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Switch Hand Lotion?
How_Acidic_Are_Your_Hands "How does Hands Off!™ Work? Surprisingly, our hands are quite acidic with a pH value of 5.5-far more acidic than 7.0 the pH value that's considered to be acid-free. Our chemists, using "aqueous ion" technology, formulated Hands Off! ™ lotion and soap to neutralize the natural acid present on unprotected hands. When used in conjunction with Hands Off! ™ Acid Neutralizing Soap, the lotion keeps hands at an acid-free pH level of 7.5 for up to two hours." Hands Off Hand Lotion I have never tried it but it seems like an interesting idea.
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Re:Switch Hand Lotion?
2012/11/12 21:47:34
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Well, fear of hand acid beats fear of a fiscal cliff. Maybe.
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Re:Switch Hand Lotion?
2012/11/12 21:59:04
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And here I thought I was avoiding Acid Loops.
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Re:Switch Hand Lotion?
2012/11/12 22:02:50
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It's an easy way to avoid tarnishing your silver stash?
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Re:Switch Hand Lotion?
2012/11/12 22:03:42
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mike_mccue It's an easy way to avoid tarnishing your silver stash? I'm a clean shaven guy. No 'stache here.
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Re:Switch Hand Lotion?
2012/11/12 22:04:19
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But you're still a silva fox?
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Re:Switch Hand Lotion?
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Re:Switch Hand Lotion?
2012/11/12 22:44:52
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Hand acid? ... so, are bapu's hands bassic?
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Re:Switch Hand Lotion?
2012/11/12 23:27:03
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So... if your hands create acid after using soap, why don't they after using that cream?
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Re:Switch Hand Lotion?
2012/11/12 23:44:35
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Base players should wash their hands with bar soap often. But I want to know how they know about my hands (and where they might have been)?
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Re:Switch Hand Lotion?
2012/11/13 02:29:56
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Where's Rain? He might want to try some of this.
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Re:Switch Hand Lotion?
2012/11/13 05:27:01
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Re:Switch Hand Lotion?
2012/11/13 05:32:16
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Karyn Snake oil. What do you do to treat that?
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Re:Switch Hand Lotion?
2012/11/13 05:56:35
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bapu Karyn Snake oil. What do you do to treat that? Treat it? I dip my becan in it.
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Re:Switch Hand Lotion?
2012/11/13 07:05:12
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Been a while since I studied any of the sciences but isn't a pH of 5.5 about 'normal' for skin, so why on earth would it be beneficial to change it? I think Karyn hit the nail on the head. No doubt lots of people buy it and swear by it. I'm off to bottle some more 'Peckham' spring water for my next shipment to the local supermarket.
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Re:Switch Hand Lotion?
2012/11/13 08:01:26
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FastBikerBoy ...isn't a pH of 5.5 about 'normal' for skin...? Let me check... Yes.
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Re:Switch Hand Lotion?
2012/11/13 08:02:47
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FWIW, This product seems to be widely used and recommended in the field of visual arts conservation. Apparently, it is thought that handling cotton paper, matte board, and backing that has been neutralized to ph 7.0 with hands at 5.5 is not as conservative as handling the 7.0 paper with hands that have been temporarily treated to have a similar 7.0 ph. I don't think it's snake oil... I just think the application for various activities may or may not be as suitable or effective. best regards, mike
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Re:Switch Hand Lotion?
2012/11/13 08:19:04
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mike_mccue FastBikerBoy ...isn't a pH of 5.5 about 'normal' for skin...? Let me check... Yes. This may come as a bit of a shock Mike, but given your track record on 'facts' I don't actually take much notice of any of the web links you post. However my point was if it is normal for hands to have a pH of 5.4 I would think using anything to change that natural state would be fool hardy if nothing else. Buy a box load if it makes you feel better. Can I interest you in some bottled water?
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Re:Switch Hand Lotion?
2012/11/13 08:33:02
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when I first read this, my mind(or whats left of it), wandered to places better left to the imagination... hand lotion........ a towel............... a magazine............. warm regards, M2
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Re:Switch Hand Lotion?
2012/11/13 08:48:27
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FastBikerBoy mike_mccue FastBikerBoy ...isn't a pH of 5.5 about 'normal' for skin...? Let me check... Yes. This may come as a bit of a shock Mike, but given your track record on 'facts' I don't actually take much notice of any of the web links you post. However my point was if it is normal for hands to have a pH of 5.4 I would think using anything to change that natural state would be fool hardy if nothing else. Buy a box load if it makes you feel better. Can I interest you in some bottled water? Goodness gracious Carl... Do I detect a bit of vinegar? best regards, mike
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Re:Switch Hand Lotion?
2012/11/13 08:50:29
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No... might be a dab of acetic acid though.
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Re:Switch Hand Lotion?
2012/11/13 09:25:01
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mike_mccue FWIW, This product seems to be widely used and recommended in the field of visual arts conservation. Apparently, it is thought that handling cotton paper, matte board, and backing that has been neutralized to ph 7.0 with hands at 5.5 is not as conservative as handling the 7.0 paper with hands that have been temporarily treated to have a similar 7.0 ph. FWIW, Your hands, just like the rest of you, are constantly sweating and your sweat contains all sorts of minerals and oils which make it mildly acidic (actually more corrosive than acidic). This is why conservators and librarians dealing with books/paper/parchment hundreds or thousands of years old wear gloves.
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Re:Switch Hand Lotion?
2012/11/13 09:42:40
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Karyn mike_mccue This is why conservators and librarians dealing with books/paper/parchment hundreds or thousands of years old wear gloves. Wow! I didn't know conservators and librarians lived that long! Holy crap!
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Re:Switch Hand Lotion?
2012/11/13 09:44:26
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LOL I thought this was a new spam post. Didn't understand why it had so many replies Yup, gloves is where it's at! If you touch the Mona Lisa with bare hands - no matter what kind of soap you have used - you will get shot! Not by the police or security guards, but the kindest, nicest, most passionate art conservation expert you have ever met. If anything, this would be great when toucing batteries and halogen light bulbs... But I don't think this is much more than snake oil.
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Re:Switch Hand Lotion?
2012/11/13 09:46:09
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How ya doin' Lincoln!!! Er... I mean Bub Nice avatar
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Re:Switch Hand Lotion?
2012/11/13 09:47:14
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I can see where it might keep the PH altered for longer than soap, but in the case of handling special materials, do you want to get the lotion on them anyway? Gloves, clean room protocals, it might be good for instruments, fretboards etc.
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Re:Switch Hand Lotion?
2012/11/13 09:52:39
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Here in Florida it takes about 30 seconds for a nice pair of white cotton gloves to get wet with all that sweat that has been mentioned. Same thing for the white socks. :-) The question might occur to some: What PH are the white cotton gloves?
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Re:Switch Hand Lotion?
2012/11/13 09:55:44
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I'll bet the socks are worse than the gloves
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Re:Switch Hand Lotion?
2012/11/13 09:59:33
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I thought they used latex cloves... Maybe they use cotton too. Cotton is ph 6,5-7. but I don't trust my source on this.
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Re:Switch Hand Lotion?
2012/11/13 10:06:53
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ProjectM How ya doin' Lincoln!!! Er... I mean Bub Nice avatar  I'm doing ok. I suppose it's time to take down that avy. Surprised I didn't get banned for it. Heh. I have the perfect one! Check back in a minute or two. HEHE!
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