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Symphony #8, 1st movement (9:50)
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Re:Symphony #8, 1st movement (9:50)
2012/06/16 00:12:48
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It's nice to have diversity here on the song forum, after listening to one classical piece, then a blues piece now we have a full on symphonic piece.
I'm in the middle of writing a "concerto" at the moment, although it's not quite a concerto due to the fact I didn't know the form until I was half way through. It's for a competition here in Oz.
I don't mind the sounds but and I keep harping on, Notion 3 has some of the best string sounds going in terms of orchestral instruments.
You have the chops, it makes realize I'm still learning this classical caper.
I like. Peace Ben
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Re:Symphony #8, 1st movement (9:50)
2012/06/16 23:21:32
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Pretty impressive work. I find it lacking in bottom end, but that may be due to having just listened to a pile of techno. 
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Re:Symphony #8, 1st movement (9:50)
2012/06/16 23:36:41
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Bravo! Encore! Who even does that anymore? What talent we have here.
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Re:Symphony #8, 1st movement (9:50)
2012/06/17 07:19:01
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Very impressive indeed! Enjoyed this a lot, although I would agree with Foxwolfen that it would have been nice to have something to occasionally fill out the bottom end a bit. But clearly you know exactly what you are doing, so I don't really feel qualified to be making any judgements. It's just really impressive. As Lynn said, what talent we have here!
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Re:Symphony #8, 1st movement (9:50)
2012/06/17 14:29:39
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logan86
Very impressive indeed! Enjoyed this a lot, although I would agree with Foxwolfen that it would have been nice to have something to occasionally fill out the bottom end a bit. But clearly you know exactly what you are doing, so I don't really feel qualified to be making any judgements. It's just really impressive. As Lynn said, what talent we have here!
Have the people who say there is a "lack of bottom end" ever considered that listening to music that is out of balance with too much bottom end (as so much recorded music, particularly techno and rap, is today) can cause you to think that music that is tonally balanced won't sound that way to you? To me, it's like someone who puts 6 teaspoons of sugar in their tea or coffee and then tastes the same with only 1 teaspoon and says "it's not sweet enough!". Listen to more fine recordings of classical music, particularly orchestral and chamber music and you'll see exactly what I am talking about. There are many passages where the basses, cellos, trombones, tuba, bassoons and bass clarinet are not even playing. These passages are supposed to be light, transparent, and do not require, or use, constant bass to maintain interest. JG www.jerrygerber.com
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Re:Symphony #8, 1st movement (9:50)
2012/06/17 14:34:55
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Exactly. jsg
logan86
Very impressive indeed! Enjoyed this a lot, although I would agree with Foxwolfen that it would have been nice to have something to occasionally fill out the bottom end a bit. But clearly you know exactly what you are doing, so I don't really feel qualified to be making any judgements. It's just really impressive. As Lynn said, what talent we have here!
Have the people who say there is a "lack of bottom end" ever consider that listening to music that is out of balance with too much bottom end (as so much recorded music, particularly techno and rap, is today) can cause you to think that music that is tonally balanced won't sound that way to you? To me, it's like someone who puts 6 teaspoons of sugar in their tea or coffee and then tastes the same with only 1 teaspoon and says "it's not sweet enough!".
Listen to more fine recordings of classical music, particularly orchestral and chamber music and you'll see exactly what I am talking about. There are many passages where the basses, cellos, trombones, tuba, bassoons and bass clarinet are not even playing. These passages are supposed to be light, transparent, and do not use constant bass to maintain interest.
JG
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Re:Symphony #8, 1st movement (9:50)
2012/06/17 15:29:02
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There is very little in this that gives away the sound source. Very pleasant piece well constructed to my ears tonally balanced in both mix and composition. Nice Thanks for sharing 
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Re:Symphony #8, 1st movement (9:50)
2012/06/17 19:11:53
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Re:Symphony #8, 1st movement (9:50)
2012/06/17 22:13:17
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Re:Symphony #8, 1st movement (9:50)
2012/06/17 22:49:47
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jsg
logan86
Very impressive indeed! Enjoyed this a lot, although I would agree with Foxwolfen that it would have been nice to have something to occasionally fill out the bottom end a bit. But clearly you know exactly what you are doing, so I don't really feel qualified to be making any judgements. It's just really impressive. As Lynn said, what talent we have here!
Have the people who say there is a "lack of bottom end" ever considered that listening to music that is out of balance with too much bottom end (as so much recorded music, particularly techno and rap, is today) can cause you to think that music that is tonally balanced won't sound that way to you? To me, it's like someone who puts 6 teaspoons of sugar in their tea or coffee and then tastes the same with only 1 teaspoon and says "it's not sweet enough!".
Listen to more fine recordings of classical music, particularly orchestral and chamber music and you'll see exactly what I am talking about. There are many passages where the basses, cellos, trombones, tuba, bassoons and bass clarinet are not even playing. These passages are supposed to be light, transparent, and do not require, or use, constant bass to maintain interest.
JG
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By "fine recordings" do you mean my extensive collection of deutsche grammophon music on both CD and vinyl such as Liszt, Faure, Rachmaninoff, Bizet and on and on and on? Hell I even have the a nice recording if the Red Army Choir. Those fine recordings? You can disagree with my observation, but please... I am neither stupid nor ignorant. (edit for typo)
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Re:Symphony #8, 1st movement (9:50)
2012/06/18 15:41:22
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jsg
logan86
Very impressive indeed! Enjoyed this a lot, although I would agree with Foxwolfen that it would have been nice to have something to occasionally fill out the bottom end a bit. But clearly you know exactly what you are doing, so I don't really feel qualified to be making any judgements. It's just really impressive. As Lynn said, what talent we have here!
Have the people who say there is a "lack of bottom end" ever considered that listening to music that is out of balance with too much bottom end (as so much recorded music, particularly techno and rap, is today) can cause you to think that music that is tonally balanced won't sound that way to you? To me, it's like someone who puts 6 teaspoons of sugar in their tea or coffee and then tastes the same with only 1 teaspoon and says "it's not sweet enough!".
Listen to more fine recordings of classical music, particularly orchestral and chamber music and you'll see exactly what I am talking about. There are many passages where the basses, cellos, trombones, tuba, bassoons and bass clarinet are not even playing. These passages are supposed to be light, transparent, and do not require, or use, constant bass to maintain interest.
JG
www.jerrygerber.com
By "fine recordings" do you mean my extensive collection of deutsche grammophon music on both CD and vinyl such as Liszt, Faure, Rachmaninoff, Bizet and on and on and on? Hell I even have the a nice recording if the Red Army Choir. Those fine recordings? You can disagree with my observation, but please... I am neither stupid nor ignorant.
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I didn't call you, imply or even think that you are stupid or ignorant. You used those words, not me. I have no idea what kind of monitors you are using to hear music, whether they are balanced or not for the room you are in, I have no idea how your hearing is (how low are you hearing, do you have a notch at 200hz, etc.) so there are all kinds of reasons why you're not hearing enough low end. I mastered these on Adam S3a speakers and pay close attention to how I want the low end to sound and then verify it with various kinds of metering. Finally, there is no accounting for subjectivity in taste. You yourself said you had just listened to a lot of Techno which in itself can explain why your ears are expecting more low end than I prefer in my music. JG www.jerrygerber.com
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