TH2 vs Guitar Rig.

No contest for me....

NI wins.

markyzno


No contest for me....

NI wins.

Hmmm... I'm afraid I'm with you on this one. For me, I find the TH2 interface a bit, erm, well, I don't really like it. I don't like the way all the elements hook up.


I suppose that this should be secondary to the sound, but I find that GR5 sounds fine to me, plus I have the full version. I suppose that if I had the full version of TH2 then I'd be a bit happier, but I don't have a budget for that upgrade.


So, I think for me, it's a case of sticking with what I know, which is GR5.

Yeah Beep. Might be an idea. And it may be that I still use TH2 for certain tasks, but it won't be my "go to" guitar effects plug, I don't think :)

Beepster


After I get this bleeding test project exported and up on Soundcloud for everyone's perusal I think I'm going to install X2 and do some tests. I'll post my opinions on mixing the two plugs then.

I look forward to that ;^)


I'm off to bed now... So tired after slaving over a hot X2 all day

IMO:
Amplitube 3 > TH2 > GR5

I really like TH2 and wish I had held off upgrading GR4 to 5. May still go for the full version of TH2. 
Beep - I have played with both TH2 and GR5 together and you're right that that may have some potential. They play nice together - just need to find the right combinations to take advantage of both app's strengths.

Awesome. That's what I wanted to hear. There is stuff GR5 does well but those darned amp sims end up making me chase my tail for hours. The only REALLY useful and realistic sounding one to me is the Hot Solo and that's limited in what styles you can play. Mind you I have only been plugging straight into my interface so using my Line6 head or micing my amp might help by giving me a better raw signal. I agree that the TH2 GUI is ridiculous from what I've seen but I find GRs interface is a PITA as well. Too big and clunky and it blocks out Sonar completely. These new PC FX control modules are gonna be a godsend.

The THD amp model inside TH2 is different from everything else I've tried. Plus the cab/mic tweaking options are cool. At first, I was underwhelmed with TH2 (the "classic" amps models aren't all that), but I now believe that the THD model and I are going to become close friends! 

Why a lot of people still prefer the Line6 products, when all of the competition has them left so far behind in terms of speaker modeling, is beyond me. 

I actually don't really like my Line6 head for anything aside from a handy input device. I can dial in two distinct sounds and run them out via XLR to my interface. Trying to get any kind of fully processed sound out of it is impossible but it provides a far cleaner tone (when dialed in correctly) than just plugging straight into my interface. I haven't tried it with my new set up yet though but I'm sure it will be better than the dry line in on the Scarlett... which isn't bad but it is still just a line in. Also my guitar is apparently really hot because I can't use the better sounding Hi-Z setting on the Scarlett so it'll provide me with a way to keep my input levels under control.

SvenArne


The THD amp model inside TH2 is different from everything else I've tried. Plus the cab/mic tweaking options are cool. At first, I was underwhelmed with TH2 (the "classic" amps models aren't all that), but I now believe that the THD model and I are going to become close friends! 

Why a lot of people still prefer the Line6 products, when all of the competition has them left so far behind in terms of speaker modeling, is beyond me. 

I like the way TH2 is laid out. It reminds me of my floor pedals spread across the floor. To me it is easy to follow the signal chain. You can put effects in any part of the chain even between the amp and the cabinet. Which is strange. The routing possibilities are great with this plug in. But what is more amazing to me are the cabinets. You can have a total of 4 mics. You can adjust the input of each one. You have total control over placement of two mics. I have the full version and in that you have 18 mics to choose from. all great mics.


The cabs have IR abilities as well. The amps are some of the highest quality I have heard in an amp sim. So much so that actual amp manufactures endorse TH2. You can even make your own amp models. It seems the key to understanding and getting good tone lies in the cabinet. experimenting with the mics can achieve great sounds. 

Your right about leaving line 6 and Pod farm in the dust. The only thing here is that line 6 has Hardware and it is not just software. This makes line 6 competitive for live applications. At first I thought about putting TH2 on a laptop, but the truth is that would not be very road worthy. The hardware from line 6 is much more durable.

Now if TH2 ever made hardware to go with their software line 6 would be in deep trouble. 

I think this is a preference to what kind of music you record...I almost would NEVER use an amp sim to record metal etc...but for clean/blues/classic...TH2 is really good...

It all depends on how you place stuff in the mix...and metal is an artform

Psychobillybob


I think this is a preference to what kind of music you record...I almost would NEVER use an amp sim to record metal etc...but for clean/blues/classic...TH2 is really good...

It all depends on how you place stuff in the mix...and metal is an artform

TH2 Metal Demo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxXZqghzYWA

sharke

 To be honest I'm not that keen on the clean sounds in GR

I always use the Cool Plex module for clean in GR5. Remember to ALWAYS use the Control Room Pro module for cabs (the 2x12 American cab is a favorite of mine.), the other cab modules should really be thrown away or at the very least just for when you're strapped for CPU power. 


I think Guitar Rig can produce clean tones as good as anything out there if you choose the right components and tweak them a bit. 


GR's problem is that they still have all the crap original amp models in there (such as the Vox and Fender Twin), together with the old Cab modules (Cabinets & Mic, Matched Cabinet and Control Room), so it's easy to be disappointed when browsing presets. 


Sven

So far, I'm liking the TH2 sounds. I was never impressed with Guitar Rig sounds. 

I've upgraded to full TH2 and I really like its sound.
The menu structure is pretty lame but maybe it's just me.

In terms of sound I'd say I like ReValverMK3.5 best.
Then comes TH2 and then Guitar Rig 5 Pro.

But, and that's a huge point for Guitar Rig: It killes all of them in terms of fx!
GR has so much more from DJ fx to a great reverb unit...you can do so much more with this programm.
Still the Amps sound much more realistic in ReValver and TH2.

But I have a use for all of them depending on the situation.

I've had TH2 for a while, bought it when it came out. Also have Pod Farm, GR5, Amplitube and S-Gear + some other stuff, demoed Revalver for a while but never pulled the trigger. I've found that which guitar you use has a lot of effect on which ampsim to use, some of my guitars are very picky and some works all around.  

Sad to say TH2 haven't been much in use, I find it a bit of work to tweak it. It's good for clean sounds and crunch, but I think it lacks some of the punch I get from the others and it's more neutral sounding. My favourites are Pod farm and GR5 all round, Amplitube for my Strats and Teles and S-Gear when I want it to sound like a guitar amp. I have around 2000 presets in Pod Farm and GR5 making it easy to find a fitting preset and tweak it, paired with lots of effects it makes them very versatile.