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Re: THIS GUY HAS BALLS !
2013/03/01 07:43:36
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Know the law, know your rights.... it helps to be a law student too. The average person doesn't know their rights and this scenario would likely have not played out this way with them. I did not find the video funny but I did enjoy seeing a citizen stand up for his rights. Open carry tends to freak people out....especially the un-educated with respect to guns and the sheeple can't cope with it well either. I notice that people tend to be friendly to you when you open carry. You tend to get more smiles, more "hey how are you doing.... hope you're having a nice day"... more thank you's....and good service too. An armed society is a polite society.
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Re: THIS GUY HAS BALLS !
2013/03/01 08:07:42
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That guy didn't seem polite... he seemed like a total ass wipe.
The officer and his colleague seemed polite.
He will be lucky if makes it through life flaunting his open carry privilege without confusing some one and getting stand-your-grounded by some other well meaning sociopathic citizen.
I'll bet he would hide that thing and actually start acting polite if he ever found himself in a dark alley with some strangers who didn't care about his silly video camera.
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Re: THIS GUY HAS BALLS !
2013/03/01 08:11:23
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An armed society is a polite society. *ahem* Canada. That is all.
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Re: THIS GUY HAS BALLS !
2013/03/01 08:13:25
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Bearing in mind recent events, and that the police are there to protect citizens and uphold the law, this guy was being a complete smart-arsed jerk. Nothing clever, brave or funny about that to me.
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Re: THIS GUY HAS BALLS !
2013/03/01 12:43:47
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With facebook in the URL I did not go there.
Seems like I made a wise choice?
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Re: THIS GUY HAS BALLS !
2013/03/01 12:47:58
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With facebook in the URL I did not go there.
Seems like I made a wise choice?
Ya. It's not like we'll be getting a free VST for posting a "Like".
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Re: THIS GUY HAS BALLS !
2013/03/01 13:17:51
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He will be lucky if makes it through life flaunting his open carry privilege without confusing some one and getting stand-your-grounded by some other well meaning sociopathic citizen.
I'll bet he would hide that thing and actually start acting polite if he ever found himself in a dark alley with some strangers who didn't care about his silly video camera. Says the sound man for the camera.
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Re: THIS GUY HAS BALLS !
2013/03/01 14:28:32
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Ya.
I agree with McQ and James here.
That guy was just being a richard cranium.
It's people like him that give gun owners a bad name too.
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Re: THIS GUY HAS BALLS !
2013/03/01 14:45:40
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Wow.
I never thought I'd see the day when a law abiding citizen stands up for himself and get ridiculed for it.
What ... the ... ????
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Re: THIS GUY HAS BALLS !
2013/03/01 14:48:22
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Ya.
I agree with McQ and James here.
That guy was just being a richard cranium.
It's people like him that give gun owners a bad name too.
Mike
Hey Mike, how long do you think that dude would have lasted with one of our NJ State Troopers? About 5 seconds maybe? Hahaha! Right or no rights, they woulda grabbed him and had him in the car in cuffs in seconds. That video would literally be 5 secs long and it would have been filming the concrete and you'd hear a car speed away while the dude was screaming "Jones vs. Smith...you cannot arrest me....." Car door closes. Hahahaha! -Danny
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Re: THIS GUY HAS BALLS !
2013/03/01 14:50:25
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I would have just shown (not handed) my ID and CCW Permit to them. No biggie
But it is frustrating to see people try to instigate situations by carrying on and on like that isnt it?
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Re: THIS GUY HAS BALLS !
2013/03/01 14:52:24
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Ya.
I agree with McQ and James here.
That guy was just being a richard cranium.
It's people like him that give gun owners a bad name too.
Mike
Hey Mike, how long do you think that dude would have lasted with one of our NJ State Troopers? About 5 seconds maybe? Hahaha! Right or no rights, they woulda grabbed him and had him in the car in cuffs in seconds. That video would literally be 5 secs long and it would have been filming the concrete and you'd hear a car speed away while the dude was screaming "Jones vs. Smith...you cannot arrest me....." Car door closes. Hahahaha!
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 You forgot one part. Stun-gun. Concrete/busted camera. Car door closes. Mike
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Re: THIS GUY HAS BALLS !
2013/03/01 14:53:13
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Ya.
I agree with McQ and James here.
That guy was just being a richard cranium.
It's people like him that give gun owners a bad name too.
Mike
Hey Mike, how long do you think that dude would have lasted with one of our NJ State Troopers? About 5 seconds maybe? Hahaha! Right or no rights, they woulda grabbed him and had him in the car in cuffs in seconds. That video would literally be 5 secs long and it would have been filming the concrete and you'd hear a car speed away while the dude was screaming "Jones vs. Smith...you cannot arrest me....." Car door closes. Hahahaha!
-Danny No other trooper is known 'round the world like the New Jersey State Trooper. No other is as feared, or respected. Fact. They are the toughest mother ****ers there is. No other way to put. I have my doubts that video is legit. It could be, but a seasoned officer would have had the guys ID, verified he was a legitimate gun owner, and they both would have been on their merry way in a matter of a few minutes, no harm, no foul. But ... if a citizen chooses to be like that, I have no problem with it. He's well within his legal rights, and that's why these laws are in place ... to protect citizens, not the people that actually make the laws.
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Re: THIS GUY HAS BALLS !
2013/03/01 14:53:35
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Bub
Wow.
I never thought I'd see the day when a law abiding citizen stands up for himself and get ridiculed for it.
What ... the ... ????
That wasn't 'standing up for your rights', that was deliberately setting out to humiliate the police, with the hope of 'going viral', no doubt. I hope he gets thrown out of law school. Where are the rights of people who called in, worried about someone flashing a gun, walking down the street?
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Re: THIS GUY HAS BALLS !
2013/03/01 14:55:11
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Bub: I have to agree with you. I see no problem with a law abiding citizen being left alone. The problem with the world now is, the people that are commiting crimes with guns are blending in with the rest of us like the freakin' taliban. I personally feel all weapons (even if you have a license to carry) should never be revealed. It's sort of like some of the things that get revealed on the forum here. If they never were said (like someone leaving etc) it doesn't put the community in a panic while thinking other things, ya know? Like the recent parting of some of the Bakers. Right away the community thought Cake might be in trouble or whatever. I think the whole visible gun thing in citizens is a bad move. If I saw someone walking down the street with a gun that wasn't a cop, I'd have to make a call. Of course guns aren't legal here...so I'd have a good reason. But with the way this world is now, I personally see no problem with reporting someone with a gun and see no reason for them to be spot checked to see if they are ok to carry with no warrants. The recent attrocities in the country have forced that hand in my opinion. Sort of like the terrorists attempts at making flying such an inconvenience to us all to where *some* people feel like they are a prisoner in their own country, know what I mean? So many variables here...but I got no problems with people packing and don't think guns need to be banned. Stuff is going to happen whether there is a ban or not....most of the crimes committed are with guns that aren't licensed or are stolen...no nothing changes. -Danny
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Re: THIS GUY HAS BALLS !
2013/03/01 14:57:06
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LOL Mike! Yeah, forgot about the stun gun! Bub, yeah they are some bad dudes. Glad I know quite a few. LOL!! Yeah I also think that vid may have been fake or maybe he knew the cops. Whatever the case, it IS good to know your rights, but I would think that may be going too far. Lp Mike is a cop...hopefully he'll see this and give us his take on what he would do in that situation. -Danny
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Re: THIS GUY HAS BALLS !
2013/03/01 15:04:35
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Bub
Wow.
I never thought I'd see the day when a law abiding citizen stands up for himself and get ridiculed for it.
What ... the ... ????
Standing up for your rights is one thing. Being a d*** is another. Like Digi2ns stated. He could have just shown his papers and been on his way. Apparently he was doing something screwy because the cops didn't say 'one' person called concerned. He said we got a 'few' calls. In light of some of the gun incidents all over the news the last few years, even if you're allowed to carry a weapon, how do the cops know you're not just some nut bag off to the Piggly Wiggly to start popping off rounds? All they did was ask for his papers. They didn't treat him like a criminal or slam him on the ground. It's called doing their jobs. Mike
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Re: THIS GUY HAS BALLS !
2013/03/01 15:26:10
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LOL Mike! Yeah, forgot about the stun gun!
Bub, yeah they are some bad dudes. Glad I know quite a few. LOL!!
-Danny Do you remember when Trooper Lamonaco was killed? We drove right through the scene on our way back from Christmas shopping about an hour after it happened. There must have been 100 cruisers there. A couple of wackjob tree huggers did it.
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Re: THIS GUY HAS BALLS !
2013/03/01 15:50:40
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This was a terrible idea for a thread. This Night Fox dude seems to be stirring up trouble all over the place lately.
Let's talk about music stuff instead.
I just finished the Groove3 X2 Explained vid. At first I thought it was gonna be a dud and just repeat a bunch of stuff I already knew but I wanted to trawl it for any little extra tricks I may have missed so far... but as the vids pressed on... holy crap did I ever learn a lot. Highly recommend that one. Still leaves out a lot but the way that guy did certain things was very eye opening.
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Re: THIS GUY HAS BALLS !
2013/03/01 15:55:12
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Bub
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LOL Mike! Yeah, forgot about the stun gun!
Bub, yeah they are some bad dudes. Glad I know quite a few. LOL!!
-Danny Do you remember when Trooper Lamonaco was killed? We drove right through the scene on our way back from Christmas shopping about an hour after it happened. There must have been 100 cruisers there. A couple of wackjob tree huggers did it.
Ugggh....yeah, I remember that. :*( One of my buds was a trooper....we worked out at the same gym. It was his reason to live. He was on the force less than a year, made a traffic stop and was shot and killed. That was a tough one. This world man....I'll tell ya, if Jesus came down and offered me a jet plane to heaven, I seriously think I'd jump into His arms. It sure isn't the world I hoped it would be when I hit my 40's. So sad. -Danny
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Re: THIS GUY HAS BALLS !
2013/03/01 15:56:54
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Beepster
This was a terrible idea for a thread. This Night Fox dude seems to be stirring up trouble all over the place lately.
Let's talk about music stuff instead.
Sure. Start a thread and we'll join in.
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Re: THIS GUY HAS BALLS !
2013/03/01 15:58:29
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This was a terrible idea for a thread. This Night Fox dude seems to be stirring up trouble all over the place lately.
Let's talk about music stuff instead.
I just finished the Groove3 X2 Explained vid. At first I thought it was gonna be a dud and just repeat a bunch of stuff I already knew but I wanted to trawl it for any little extra tricks I may have missed so far... but as the vids pressed on... holy crap did I ever learn a lot. Highly recommend that one. Still leaves out a lot but the way that guy did certain things was very eye opening.
Yeah there are some priceless bits of info in those vids, Beeps. They usually don't apply to me and how I use Sonar though. Some of them do, but for the most part, I'll start watching one and say "ah, I know I'll never use this" or "I don't have to do this style of music often". Most times, when you get a rap client or an R&B/hip hop client, they have all their beatz and grooves ready to go. It's rare I literally have to create stuff for them as they have it all mapped out and just drop their samples right into Sonar. It's good stuff to know though, that's for sure. But I think the Bakers need me to make rock/metal videos for them so we rockers aren't left out in the cold! Hahahaha! -Danny
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Re: THIS GUY HAS BALLS !
2013/03/01 16:09:32
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I hear ya, Danny. A lot of it is probably throwaway or duplicate knowledge but I'll be focusing a lot on the creative end of things so the more tricks the better and being a total MIDI/soft synth n00b I need a good foundation if I'm ever gonna get taken seriously. Now that I'm done that series I'm looking around at what to snag next. I've only got another 3 weeks or so with this free pass so I have to choose wisely. I've done Mixing With X1 which was okay and X2 Explained. I might do the X1 Tips and Tricks becuase there's a bunch of stuff listed I really want to know how to do but I REALLY want to dig into the general mixing section of the site. I think I'd better make a list of the vids I'm interested in and prioritize them. Even slamming away at these non stop every day I don't think I'm gonna be able to get to everything I'm interested in. Like a kid in a candy store... lol. ;-)
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2013/03/01 16:12:24
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Oh and there seems to be a Mixing Rock video in there which I definitely have to put on the list. Most of the dudes who'd put their work in my hands are all rockers so I can't ignore that stuff... not to mention that's obviously my personal bent even if I'm moving more towards a conglomerate of styles.
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Re: THIS GUY HAS BALLS !
2013/03/01 17:12:22
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chefmike8888
Ya.
I agree with McQ and James here.
That guy was just being a richard cranium.
It's people like him that give gun owners a bad name too.
Mike
Hey Mike, how long do you think that dude would have lasted with one of our NJ State Troopers? About 5 seconds maybe? Hahaha! Right or no rights, they woulda grabbed him and had him in the car in cuffs in seconds. That video would literally be 5 secs long and it would have been filming the concrete and you'd hear a car speed away while the dude was screaming "Jones vs. Smith...you cannot arrest me....." Car door closes. Hahahaha!
-Danny
Considering that NJ is a gun free zone.... that's more of a rhetorical question since the simple act of having a gun is cause for arrest in NJ. I used to live there. I was born and raised in NJ and back in 1972 I had to go get fingerprinted and do all the police dept's red tape process to apply for a permit to buy rifles and shotguns to simply purchase a Crossman 761 BB gun. Forget getting a pistol permit to carry concealed, and do not dare to carry a gun open. Open carry is prohibited in ALL areas. No carry is allowed in vehicles either without a NJ carry permit (extremely difficult to get) or a purchaser ID card issued by NJ. There is no right to self defense with a gun and no castle doctrine in NJ.... use a gun ... go to jail. there is already an existing (so called) "assault weapons" ban and a hi-cap mag ban.... Traveling through the state carrying a weapon which is legal in your home state will get you some hard prison time if you happen to get stopped and searched. This has happened to more than one person. NJ law enforcement is not friendly to guns.
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Re: THIS GUY HAS BALLS !
2013/03/01 17:27:09
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I was born and raised in NJ. My dad and brother always had guns when I was growing up. It was never any big deal to get them, but I imagine it depended on where you lived and who you knew. And my brother is an officer in a small town, so that doesn't hurt I guess.
The problem isn't Jersey ... it's the trash passing through it on it's way East.
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Re: THIS GUY HAS BALLS !
2013/03/01 17:28:17
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Beepster
This was a terrible idea for a thread. This Night Fox dude seems to be stirring up trouble all over the place lately.
Iwas very eye opening.
Maybe, after his thread got flushed down here, and he got pawned, hes trying to "fit in" to the CH? He has a lot to learn, perhaps, a bit more lurking is in order? just saying.....
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Re: THIS GUY HAS BALLS !
2013/03/01 17:38:35
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He has a lot to learn, perhaps, a bit more lurking is in order? just saying..... Yeah, definitely had the internet training wheels taken off a little early. I mean... linking to Facebook?! lololol
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Re: THIS GUY HAS BALLS !
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But I think the Bakers need me to make rock/metal videos for them so we rockers aren't left out in the cold! Hahahaha! No, not hahaha. Seriously! No offence to any style of music. I find enjoyment in it all. But I do feel like the art of actually recording instruments is fading in favor of samples, loops and sequencers. Bring on some screaming whiplash. Mike
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