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Re: T-RackS 5 2017/09/15 21:28:35 (permalink)
It looks pretty good to me! I can't buy it now, but I will at some point. Hopefully it will go on sale again around Christmas.
 

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Re: T-RackS 5 2017/09/15 22:17:35 (permalink)
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You will have T-RackS 5 and any of your previous plugins from your MAX purchase will work as T-RackS 5 plugins (updtated GUI, work within the T-RackS 5 standalone, suite, and a single plugins in your DAW).



Thanks for the answer but... does this mean that, having bought T-Racks 5, if I instantiate a Stealth Limiter in a track (for instance) with the new GUI and all, I'll be running the same code that someone who bought T-Racks 5 MAX and use the version of Stealth Limiter that comes with it?

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Re: T-RackS 5 2017/09/15 22:52:05 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby pentimentosound 2017/09/20 13:00:29
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You will have T-RackS 5 and any of your previous plugins from your MAX purchase will work as T-RackS 5 plugins (updtated GUI, work within the T-RackS 5 standalone, suite, and a single plugins in your DAW).



Thanks for the answer but... does this mean that, having bought T-Racks 5, if I instantiate a Stealth Limiter in a track (for instance) with the new GUI and all, I'll be running the same code that someone who bought T-Racks 5 MAX and use the version of Stealth Limiter that comes with it?



Yes.  T-Racks 5 is just basically the "Shell", and, if you already own
all the modules, you will actually have T-Racks 5 MAX. I currently
have everything for 4, but don't "Technically" own MAX, so, if 
I upgrade to 5, I'll technically have MAX, just without it saying "Max".


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Re: T-RackS 5 2017/09/15 23:02:45 (permalink)

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Re: T-RackS 5 2017/09/16 03:40:59 (permalink)
Ok, I just did the basic update to TRacks 5 which came out to the magic figure of $69.99, using maximum Jam points. Seems like a good deal. The only downside is the headache I have gotten from reading this thread.😆 I believe a lot of this could have been avoided if IK had just stated explicitly upfront that 1) you can use your old plugs within the new TRacks 5, with no less functionality than if you bought these plugins as part of TRacks 5 new; and 2) IK reserves its right in the future to treat purchasers of any bundle differently than those who have purchased individualy the plugins constituting that bundle.
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Re: T-RackS 5 2017/09/16 04:18:38 (permalink)
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Ok, I just did the basic update to TRacks 5 which came out to the magic figure of $69.99, using maximum Jam points. Seems like a good deal. The only downside is the headache I have gotten from reading this thread.😆 I believe a lot of this could have been avoided if IK had just stated explicitly upfront that 1) you can use your old plugs within the new TRacks 5, with no less functionality than if you bought these plugins as part of TRacks 5 new; and 2) IK reserves its right in the future to treat purchasers of any bundle differently than those who have purchased individualy the plugins constituting that bundle.



 Stop there and let the end users fill in the blank.....

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Re: T-RackS 5 2017/09/16 13:25:34 (permalink)
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... 2) IK reserves its right in the future to treat purchasers of any bundle differently than those who have purchased individualy the plugins constituting that bundle.



 
What I have learned from buying from IK is that if I wait there will almost certainly be a better deal in the future so the general rule is don't buy just because there is a deal buy because you want (preferably need) the items in the deal.
 
Single items are always a challenge where they are also part of a bundle.
 
I wanted (but did not necessarily need) Saturator and Quad Imager when the multi buy was out and picked up Plate and DeEsser at the same time. If I had followed my own advice above I would have saved just over $100 (when you minus Jam Points and plus the Tax) and would have got them as part of the Max 5 Upgrade. 
 
On the plus side I will have had the use of these extra effects for nearly 5 months when T-RackS 5 ships.
 
My guess is that there will be a better deal on T-TrackS 5 Max at some point in the future, actually I certain that this will happen. For me though I think that getting Max 5 makes sense now just as using the Multi Buy to get some specific items I wanted made sense in May. 

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Re: T-RackS 5 2017/09/16 13:33:29 (permalink)
If I may ... using ccLarry and myself as an example, I bought 4 Max + whatever came out later.  ccLarry bought them all without buying the Max bundle.
 
We are both in the same identical position with respect to upgrade options.  IMO, IKM did a fantastic job of putting this together.  Their failure was in the initial communication.
 
The ones I think are crooked are the PG Music guys.  If ccLarry buys the "'16 Pro" version of BiaB at the same time I buy "'16Mega" and we both wait more than a year, we get the exact same upgrade price to "Ultra".  EVEN THOUGH THERE HAVE BEEN ZERO UPDATES TO THE MEGA CONTENT IN THE INTERVENING TIME.
 
So unlike PG Music, IKM is NOT requiring prior purchasers to re-purchase stuff they already have in order to update.

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Re: T-RackS 5 2017/09/16 14:49:22 (permalink)
Good examples Bob. Bottom line? How is $69.00 too much for this?

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Re: T-RackS 5 2017/09/16 16:42:41 (permalink)
So I have ~70% of the IK plugins but use the free TRackS CS. Do I qualify for the Max $199 intro pricing? I think so? Then do I get the other 30% of the plugins that I do not currently own? Will they also work independently in Sonar or only within the TRacksCS environ?
 
Sorry for all the questions but I'm so busy working on the house I haven't had time to adequately research this. Nonetheless, I am frothing at the mouth, and no, I wasn't bitten by a bat hiding under my rafters :)

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Re: T-RackS 5 2017/09/16 19:43:05 (permalink)
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So I have ~70% of the IK plugins but use the free TRackS CS. Do I qualify for the Max $199 intro pricing? I think so? Then do I get the other 30% of the plugins that I do not currently own? Will they also work independently in Sonar or only within the TRacksCS environ?
 
Sorry for all the questions but I'm so busy working on the house I haven't had time to adequately research this. Nonetheless, I am frothing at the mouth, and no, I wasn't bitten by a bat hiding under my rafters :)


You just need to have a product worth $99.99+ registered in your account.  If you want to send me your IK username via PM I can have that checked but it really sounds like you do.
 
If you got the $199.99 T-RackS 5 MAX upgrade, you'd have all 38 processors.  They will work as single plugins, not just in the T-RackS environment.
 
Edit - Also, I do hope your house work is going well.  Be careful of those bats!  A few weeks ago I was startled awake by a bat flying around my bedroom at 5AM.  Not fun!
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Re: T-RackS 5 2017/09/17 03:11:11 (permalink)
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So I have ~70% of the IK plugins but use the free TRackS CS. Do I qualify for the Max $199 intro pricing? I think so? Then do I get the other 30% of the plugins that I do not currently own? Will they also work independently in Sonar or only within the TRacksCS environ?
 
Sorry for all the questions but I'm so busy working on the house I haven't had time to adequately research this. Nonetheless, I am frothing at the mouth, and no, I wasn't bitten by a bat hiding under my rafters :)


You just need to have a product worth $99.99+ registered in your account.  If you want to send me your IK username via PM I can have that checked but it really sounds like you do.
 
If you got the $199.99 T-RackS 5 MAX upgrade, you'd have all 38 processors.  They will work as single plugins, not just in the T-RackS environment.
 
Edit - Also, I do hope your house work is going well.  Be careful of those bats!  A few weeks ago I was startled awake by a bat flying around my bedroom at 5AM.  Not fun!


Will do and thanks!
 
Yes a bat in the room at 5AM is not fun! Mine were under the shutters I removed to paint the house, up to 20 or so per shutter, all grouped together and getting ready for their winter hibernaculum. Cozy and nice :)

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Re: T-RackS 5 2017/09/17 03:57:06 (permalink)
Got one flying through my living room the other day. Opened all windows. Little bugger left in a hurry when wife hid under blanket. Probably scared the bat more than she was.

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Re: T-RackS 5 2017/09/17 05:16:35 (permalink)
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Re: T-RackS 5 2017/09/17 14:03:34 (permalink)
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So I have ~70% of the IK plugins but use the free TRackS CS. Do I qualify for the Max $199 intro pricing? I think so? Then do I get the other 30% of the plugins that I do not currently own? Will they also work independently in Sonar or only within the TRacksCS environ?
 
Sorry for all the questions but I'm so busy working on the house I haven't had time to adequately research this. Nonetheless, I am frothing at the mouth, and no, I wasn't bitten by a bat hiding under my rafters :)


You just need to have a product worth $99.99+ registered in your account.  If you want to send me your IK username via PM I can have that checked but it really sounds like you do.
 
If you got the $199.99 T-RackS 5 MAX upgrade, you'd have all 38 processors.  They will work as single plugins, not just in the T-RackS environment.
 
Edit - Also, I do hope your house work is going well.  Be careful of those bats!  A few weeks ago I was startled awake by a bat flying around my bedroom at 5AM.  Not fun!


Will do and thanks!
 
Yes a bat in the room at 5AM is not fun! Mine were under the shutters I removed to paint the house, up to 20 or so per shutter, all grouped together and getting ready for their winter hibernaculum. Cozy and nice :)


So. Many. Bats.
 
Oh, and by the way, before I have anything checked you can actually see your eligibility for this (and other) crossgrade/upgrade options in the new "Crossgrade/Upgrade" section of your IK User Area.
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Re: T-RackS 5 2017/09/17 14:40:15 (permalink)
Could you look into including some kind of Bat safety deal in the User Area? Thanks Ubiquitous IK Guy!
 
SO. Many Bats. So. Little Time.

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Re: T-RackS 5 2017/09/17 16:26:00 (permalink)
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So I have ~70% of the IK plugins but use the free TRackS CS. Do I qualify for the Max $199 intro pricing? I think so? Then do I get the other 30% of the plugins that I do not currently own? Will they also work independently in Sonar or only within the TRacksCS environ?
 
Sorry for all the questions but I'm so busy working on the house I haven't had time to adequately research this. Nonetheless, I am frothing at the mouth, and no, I wasn't bitten by a bat hiding under my rafters :)


You just need to have a product worth $99.99+ registered in your account.  If you want to send me your IK username via PM I can have that checked but it really sounds like you do.
 
If you got the $199.99 T-RackS 5 MAX upgrade, you'd have all 38 processors.  They will work as single plugins, not just in the T-RackS environment.
 
Edit - Also, I do hope your house work is going well.  Be careful of those bats!  A few weeks ago I was startled awake by a bat flying around my bedroom at 5AM.  Not fun!


Will do and thanks!
 
Yes a bat in the room at 5AM is not fun! Mine were under the shutters I removed to paint the house, up to 20 or so per shutter, all grouped together and getting ready for their winter hibernaculum. Cozy and nice :)


So. Many. Bats.
 
Oh, and by the way, before I have anything checked you can actually see your eligibility for this (and other) crossgrade/upgrade options in the new "Crossgrade/Upgrade" section of your IK User Area.


OK that's convenient and clear! I checked and it's $249 for the MAX upgrade for me. Thanks Peter for all the expert help on this! No wait, that's the old TRackS, my area does not yet list the TRackS 5 MAX upgrade yet...I'll check back later, it's a nice feature!

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Re: T-RackS 5 2017/09/17 18:46:59 (permalink)
Well I got in on it. I wanted the new features of the shell itself. I agree with Bob, the old UI was just too damn small! The new "album" module looks interesting too. The new meters look good. Better than the older version. 

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Re: T-RackS 5 2017/09/17 18:56:18 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby ZincTrumpet 2017/09/18 17:05:00
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Does anyone know how long the version 4 stuff will continue working if I decide not to upgrade? 




For the vst version, I am assuming as long as your DAW is compatible with the OS you use.
 
For the stand alone version as long as the OS supports it. 
 
These things will determine how long it will continue to work. 
 
I don't think IK will pull the plug on authorization anytime soon.
 

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Re: T-RackS 5 2017/09/17 22:17:40 (permalink)
Oh wait, some of my plugs have the CS tag. I do believe the individual purchase are called custom shop. Will those be upgraded to 5?

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Re: T-RackS 5 2017/09/18 14:59:01 (permalink)
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Oh wait, some of my plugs have the CS tag. I do believe the individual purchase are called custom shop. Will those be upgraded to 5?


Yes, those are v4 plugins. Which will be handled as described in the FAQ at http://cgi.ikmultimedia.c...c.php?f=13&t=14225
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Re: T-RackS 5 2017/09/18 15:00:03 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby robbyk 2017/09/18 15:37:59
Oops, also note that you should see the T-RackS 5 MAX Upgrade in your IK User Area "Crossgrade/Upgrade" section now, the bats are cleared from the belfry there.
 
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Re: T-RackS 5 2017/09/18 15:37:51 (permalink)
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Oops, also note that you should see the T-RackS 5 MAX Upgrade in your IK User Area "Crossgrade/Upgrade" section now, the bats are cleared from the belfry there.
 


Ha, ha, good one :)
 
Yup it's there, whoo hoo, $199! Good news for me!

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Re: T-RackS 5 2017/09/18 15:48:23 (permalink)
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Yup it's there, whoo hoo, $199! Good news for me!




If you don't have any/many TrackS plugs, then this is a great deal. Enjoy.

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Re: T-RackS 5 2017/09/18 17:14:07 (permalink)
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Does anyone know how long the version 4 stuff will continue working if I decide not to upgrade? 



For the vst version, I am assuming as long as your DAW is compatible with the OS you use.

For the stand alone version as long as the OS supports it. 

These things will determine how long it will continue to work. 
 
I don't think IK will pull the plug on authorization anytime soon.

 
Thanks Grem, I think I realised it was a bit of a dumb question milliseconds after I posted it  
For example, I run the latest version of Sampletank (3.7 I believe) and but v2.5 still works even after all these years.
 
Anyway, I also have the $199 Max upgrade offer in my account so I am very tempted as I only have T-Racks 4 Deluxe (9 processors) plus Stealth Limiter (which I use every day).  Using the maximum Jampoints (30%) it should work out around £148 including VAT.
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Re: T-RackS 5 2017/09/18 19:01:53 (permalink)
The British/White Channel Strips are also nice. EQ73 and EQ81, favorites. I really like all of 'em!

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Re: T-RackS 5 2017/09/18 21:49:29 (permalink)
Can I use Gear Credits to purchase T-RackS 5 in Custom Shop?
No, Gear Credits cannot be used to purchase T-RackS 5 at this time.
 
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Re: T-RackS 5 2017/09/19 17:07:46 (permalink)
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Yup it's there, whoo hoo, $199! Good news for me!




If you don't have any/many TrackS plugs, then this is a great deal. Enjoy.


Grem, check me out here and let me kow if my thinking is skewered the wrong way as it has a tendency to do as of late.
 
I just checked and there are 10 I do not have totaling $860 if I purchased "as is":
 
Linear Phase Equalizer   59.99
Classic T-RackS Multi-band Limiter 39.99
CSR Inverse Reverb   39.99
White Channel    99.99
Bus Compressor    99.99
Precision Comp / Limiter  99.99
Master EQ 432    119.99
EQ 73     99.99
EQ PA     99.99
EQ PG     99.99
 
So for $199 - 99(the shell)= $100 - 30% (jam points) = a lower price, I am getting the above (plus 4 new modules). Granted, with sales I would probably get the above for 1/2 price or so ( I only have 5 gear credits). so, $4-500.
 
Am I correct, it seems to good to be true?
 

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Re: T-RackS 5 2017/09/19 17:19:00 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby robbyk 2017/09/19 17:56:16
Master EQ 432 is a must have....


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Re: T-RackS 5 2017/09/19 17:37:53 (permalink)
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So for $199 - 99(the shell)= $100



Not following this. Why is $99 getting subtracted?

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