cclarry
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T-Racks Grand Upgrade on Sale
$84.15 @ JRR Shop...
$99 at IK....
My BIGGEST problem with IK....their Jampoints are USELESS....
You can only use them on RETAIL prices...which can ALWAYS be beat by the Retailers... So, they mean NOTHING....unless you're an ADDICT who HAS TO USE THEM...and doesn't care what you pay for something...
I would have foregone my boycott and purchased this if I could have used my Jampoints...but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....
IK just get's on my nerves with their stupidity...
Rant over...end of story...bye bye...
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drewfx1
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Re: T-Racks Grand Upgrade on Sale
2013/08/30 13:54:59
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I think I actually was able to use some Jampoints for something once a couple of years ago. But I pretty much just ignore them and seem to be no worse for wear. This would strike me as something pretty low on my list of things to get upset about. Just saying.
 In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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Bajan Blue
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Re: T-Racks Grand Upgrade on Sale
2013/08/30 14:35:28
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I sort of agree with Larry on this - basically if they make it so they are more or less useless, why bother with them at all? Poor marketing - people do get suspicious (even if you have good intentions) when you "give" them something as an encouragement to buy, then you find you cannot use them, ever! Personally doesn't bother me and I do believe I might even have some dodgy jammy points somewhere or another, but it is rubbish marketing (perhaps irubbish??) Nigel
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drewfx1
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Re: T-Racks Grand Upgrade on Sale
2013/08/30 15:23:36
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I sort of take it as a marketing thing that's run its course - they made some sense when most of the products were pricey, but once the price points got lower and they started having big discounts a few times a year it changed. And if they tried to just get rid of them while some customers still had a bunch in their accounts, that wouldn't go over well either. But it's not like there aren't like a billion other companies out there that don't let you combine promotions, particularly when big discounts are involved.
 In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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cclarry
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Re: T-Racks Grand Upgrade on Sale
2013/08/30 18:14:05
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rtucker55
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Re: T-Racks Grand Upgrade on Sale
2013/08/30 18:24:55
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The Only thing I have used Jam points for was to buy credits to use in the custom shop. Other than that... meh
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clintmartin
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Re: T-Racks Grand Upgrade on Sale
2013/08/30 21:43:27
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I've used jam points for the Custom shop to pick up an effect or mic I want without having to buy the whole Amplitube 3 package. It's basically useless if you wait for a sale and buy everything they have. At some point you have a bunch of points with nothing left to purchase. I do like their products though. The sound quality of T-racks is as good as anything else I have in my tool box and $79 for 7 processors is a pretty fair deal.
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DeeringAmps
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Re: T-Racks Grand Upgrade on Sale
2013/08/31 10:08:18
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T Racks Grand is worth the price of admission, IMHO. I know we're all just a "little" frustrated with IK. BUT, I do use the Black and White comps A LOT, the Pultec is useful as well (all the plugs really). CSR crashes X2 EVERY time I try to load it, (as do ALL the synths, all are fine in X1; go figure!) But its included in "Grand" so I'm good to go. If/when we get ST3 IK will be back on the good guy's list, eh? (what is there like 122 days to New Years Obi?) iGnore the iCrap and iBuzz, they're just trying to create a "little" iCash iFlow; can't blame them for that. Pick up Grand you'll like; don't "love" the Custom Shop, but I "deal" with it. Just my nickel98. T
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clintmartin
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Re: T-Racks Grand Upgrade on Sale
2013/08/31 10:11:51
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CSR comes with grand? I'll have to check that.
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clintmartin
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Re: T-Racks Grand Upgrade on Sale
2013/08/31 10:14:56
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CSR is a separate purchase.
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DeeringAmps
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Re: T-Racks Grand Upgrade on Sale
2013/08/31 10:16:51
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Yup! I've tried a lot of verbs, and I keep going back to CSR. Even bought the lexi LXP, (already had the iLok, so what the hey...). Haven't got into the "British" channel, but the whole virtual console thingy doesn't float my boat. Can't "hear" the PC emulations either, just my tired old ears maybe? Can you spell hijack?? Sorry... T
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clintmartin
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Re: T-Racks Grand Upgrade on Sale
2013/08/31 14:13:24
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I've always planned to get CSR, but haven't yet. I bought Valhalla Vintage Verb awhile back and it's done everything I want so far. I will get CSR and Valhalla Room someday. I probably won't upgrade to grand yet. I don't see me using anything but the stereo quad thing. I don't use the console emulations either. T-racks deluxe I like and use along with Fab Filter.
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IK Obi
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Re: T-Racks Grand Upgrade on Sale
2013/09/03 22:03:52
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We have noticed Jam Points are most used for new products that aren't discounted. Thanks for sharing the news on the T-Racks Grand Update. We hit over half a million users with the Custom Shop so we thought we'd do a Custom Shop Month promo this month. Check it out:
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wizard71
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Re: T-Racks Grand Upgrade on Sale
2013/09/04 08:19:01
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If only the websites european price included VAT BEFORE you get to checkout (add 20%) and the Euro to Sterling rate wasn't so abysmal....I only buy in pounds or dollars now so will have to give this a miss as what appears to be a low price actually isn't. Hate price advertising that is basically not the price you pay, should be illegal.
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IK Obi
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Re: T-Racks Grand Upgrade on Sale
2013/09/04 15:32:19
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Its a tough thing to keep in mind when we are an international company and taxes are different in each country. We abide by all rules in each country which is why we have to charge VAT. You will notice at the bottom of every one of our news releases and announcements it says: "All prices exclude taxes/VAT."
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auto_da_fe
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Re: T-Racks Grand Upgrade on Sale
2013/09/04 17:05:30
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I just used jampoints for an ipad holder for a mic stand. Pretty pleased to use them. I was totally surprised they were still all there for the last couple years. JR
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IK Obi
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Re: T-Racks Grand Upgrade on Sale
2013/09/04 17:56:35
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They expire after 2 years of inactivity and at the end of the quarter. So 2ish years. I loved the iKlip when it came out, made lyric/chord sheets a thing of the past when performing.
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wizard71
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Re: T-Racks Grand Upgrade on Sale
2013/09/04 18:19:44
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IK Obi Its a tough thing to keep in mind when we are an international company and taxes are different in each country. We abide by all rules in each country which is why we have to charge VAT. You will notice at the bottom of every one of our news releases and announcements it says: "All prices exclude taxes/VAT."
Hi Obi, I can certainly understand the necessity to charge vat and comply with taxation laws, that was not my point. I would just prefer to see this addition represented in the big price label by the product, as regardless of your 'All prices exclude taxes/VAT' notice at the bottom of the page, its initially misleading as its not the price you end up paying. Some people don't have the ability to add 21% onto a given price so they have to go through the checkout process to find out how much it will actually cost them. I think this practice of price display is rather outdated now, you see it less and less. Imagine how confusing this method would be if the prices at the local supermarket didn't include tax. This is just my opinion of course, I don't expect it to change anything. Cheers Bibs
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DeeringAmps
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Re: T-Racks Grand Upgrade on Sale
2013/09/04 21:01:21
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Here in the States the price on the label is BEFORE an applicable sales tax. In Canada; BEFORE the Provincial tax and the GST (federal) tax. I "get" your point, but that's how it is here in North America... T Oh, and did I mention I love my TRackS Grand???
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IK Obi
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Re: T-Racks Grand Upgrade on Sale
2013/09/15 21:15:21
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