TTS1: There isn't a way to add more sounds to this synth is there?

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2015/08/01 17:44:24 (permalink)

TTS1: There isn't a way to add more sounds to this synth is there?

I'm guessing that this isn't the type of soft synth where you can cram your own sounds/samples/etc into. Figured I'd ask though just in case.
 
Are there expansion packs for it that go beyond what comes with the Sonar version (SPlat and Producer series owner since X1)?
 
If not... totally fine. Just curious. It's old school but now that I know how to work it it's pretty cool. I was making it do some pretty nasty stuff as is.
 
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    scook
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    Re: TTS1: There isn't a way to add more sounds to this synth is there? 2015/08/01 17:47:58 (permalink)
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    Re: TTS1: There isn't a way to add more sounds to this synth is there? 2015/08/01 17:55:27 (permalink)
    Yeah, that's cool. Plenty of other synths for that anyway. I just like the 16 channel aspect. AFAICT the more massive/modern synths don't have nearly as many independent voices/outputs (DimPro only has 4).
     
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    Re: TTS1: There isn't a way to add more sounds to this synth is there? 2015/08/01 18:04:29 (permalink)
    However, don't forget there are some editing options that can alter the existing sounds.

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    Re: TTS1: There isn't a way to add more sounds to this synth is there? 2015/08/01 18:06:13 (permalink)
    The synth is designed so it can play arbitrary General MIDI files. The sounds provided comply with the GM2 spec. When a MIDI file is opened in SONAR and no MIDI output device is defined, the TTS-1 is automatically mapped to the MIDI file.
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    Re: TTS1: There isn't a way to add more sounds to this synth is there? 2015/08/01 18:12:05 (permalink)
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    However, don't forget there are some editing options that can alter the existing sounds.




    Oh yeah, I just spent a couple hours messing around with pretty much everything in there. My problem before was I couldn't really figure out the channel stuff. I set up a few different MIDI tracks with echo enabled, switched to the correct channels and started combining sounds... then came the effects editing (within TTS). Things got a little crazy... lol.
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    Re: TTS1: There isn't a way to add more sounds to this synth is there? 2015/08/01 18:16:10 (permalink)
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    The synth is designed so it can play arbitrary General MIDI files. The sounds provided comply with the GM2 spec. When a MIDI file is opened in SONAR and no MIDI output device is defined, the TTS-1 is automatically mapped to the MIDI file.


     Yeah, I knew that but I've never actually seen it do its automagic thing. I might have to try it out just to see what exactly happens.
     
    I've got a lot more synths to cover though. I did some of this a while back but I kind of started on the other end of the spectrum (the FM synths... you were helping me with that back then too). Now I'm trying to go through everything. I also understand everything more too so there is less head scratching and navel picking.
     
    Might actually make these things useful to what I do.
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    Re: TTS1: There isn't a way to add more sounds to this synth is there? 2015/08/01 18:20:02 (permalink)
    For automatic TTS-1 mapping make sure there are no MIDI output devices enabled in preferences.
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    Re: TTS1: There isn't a way to add more sounds to this synth is there? 2015/08/01 18:25:59 (permalink)
    scook
    For automatic TTS-1 mapping make sure there are no MIDI output devices enabled in preferences.




    Noted. I do have the Oxygen 25 (and I guess my Scarlett outs) enabled even though I have no reason to. I don't have anything (that's currently operational) to feed.
     
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    Re: TTS1: There isn't a way to add more sounds to this synth is there? 2015/08/01 18:30:15 (permalink)
    Don't forget the Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth. I am not sure if it is enabled by default or not.
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    Re: TTS1: There isn't a way to add more sounds to this synth is there? 2015/08/01 18:44:33 (permalink)
    It either isn't on by default or I disabled it ages ago. I was in there poking around earlier today (trying to get the O25 connected which as usual took a couple restarts of Sonar) and I'm pretty sure it was unchecked for both i and o.
     
    I know it's a POS and totally unusable but I'm kind of fascinated with the GS thingie. I'd kind of like to figure out how to explore it/make it do stuff. That will have to wait though because really... frack that thing. I have much better toys to explore for now... and I actually NEED to learn those ones. lol
     
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    Re: TTS1: There isn't a way to add more sounds to this synth is there? 2015/08/01 19:09:55 (permalink)
    The MS GS Wavetable Synth blows. I switched to CoolSoft's free VirtualMIDISynth running the free Arachno soundfont. Works great. Many other soundfonts are available if you don't like Arachno.
     
    http://coolsoft.altervista.org/en/virtualmidisynth
    http://www.arachnosoft.com/main/soundfont.php
     
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    Re: TTS1: There isn't a way to add more sounds to this synth is there? 2015/08/01 19:28:33 (permalink)
    You can swap it out? That's hilarious. lol
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    Re: TTS1: There isn't a way to add more sounds to this synth is there? 2015/08/01 19:32:22 (permalink)
    Por ejemplo:
     


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    Re: TTS1: There isn't a way to add more sounds to this synth is there? 2015/08/02 02:46:17 (permalink)
    Doesn't TTS1 only have maximum 4 outputs.

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    Re: TTS1: There isn't a way to add more sounds to this synth is there? 2015/08/02 06:14:50 (permalink)
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    Doesn't TTS1 only have maximum 4 outputs.

    I believe that you are right. But it has 16 channels of MIDI, and I think that is what Beepster is talking about. Then again, I might be wrong

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    Re: TTS1: There isn't a way to add more sounds to this synth is there? 2015/08/02 08:44:04 (permalink)
    I've always found the TTS1 really useful as a quick starting point for conventional cover versions / compositions at short notice. You know what it sounds like and where they are. Then replacing sounds if time allows.

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    Re: TTS1: There isn't a way to add more sounds to this synth is there? 2015/08/02 09:12:29 (permalink)
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    Doesn't TTS1 only have maximum 4 outputs.

    I believe that you are right. But it has 16 channels of MIDI, and I think that is what Beepster is talking about. Then again, I might be wrong




    Partially... I was referring to the 16 midi channel/voices but got all turned around in my head when I posted that thinking there were 16 outs as well (which I knew but had a brainfart for some reason).
     
    Still though 16 voices at once can do a lot. After messing around with it a bit I think I'm going to attempt a TTS only tune using only one instance. It'll be a good exercise for understanding synth concepts I think.
     
    I do seem to have a pretty good handle on it now though. The only thing that's messing me up a little I think is "ports" but I guess that only relates to physical connections? Or maybe routing stuff inside the OS?
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