Tabloid slams novelist Mantel over Kate comments

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2013/02/19 20:47:19 (permalink)

Tabloid slams novelist Mantel over Kate comments


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    Re:Tabloid slams novelist Mantel over Kate comments 2013/02/19 21:20:39 (permalink)
    Finally something to distract the masses from the loss of Seth to the (speculated) demise of the forum.
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    Re:Tabloid slams novelist Mantel over Kate comments 2013/02/19 21:39:09 (permalink)
    I sure hope the sun comes up tomorrow.... this has been CRAZY. The de-caf Coffee House. I needs my kicks!!!

    OFF with their heads!!!! Let them eat CAKE!!!!

    This place has turned into the Cakewalk tabloid today. I hope everyone gets over it... like tonight, PLEASE.

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    Re:Tabloid slams novelist Mantel over Kate comments 2013/02/19 21:49:04 (permalink)
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    Finally something to distract the masses from the loss of Seth to the (speculated) demise of the forum.

    Butt, you must realize, to them the Kate thingy is numero UNO, our Seth and forum issues, are to them, a pimple on a monkeys arse...
     
    just saying, its all relative...

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    Re:Tabloid slams novelist Mantel over Kate comments 2013/02/19 21:52:16 (permalink)
    There was an explosion in KC just a little bit ago.

    Maybe that will take our minds off all this.

    http://www.nydailynews.co...fire-article-1.1268334

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    Re:Tabloid slams novelist Mantel over Kate comments 2013/02/19 22:05:45 (permalink)
    you need to actually here what she said.. to get the full view of it.. regardless of the context it was said, Kate can't reply due to who she is married to..

    I do find it off key due to that and she's had enough on her plate with other things and being pregnant.

    it just seems like the idiot author is trying to get publicity for a book , much like another few folk who make stupid remakes.. many  brits can name of recent times.

    she's a 60 year old woman who should be far more verbose in her words.. also the fact she has a CBE.. ya know the royals gave the author that.. and yet she's quick to slate them.


    it does come across on a personal attack on her and that;s what annoyed folk.


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    Re:Tabloid slams novelist Mantel over Kate comments 2013/02/19 23:07:36 (permalink)
    Shouldn't they be more concerned with who might be the baby's father?  I heard that she and Strummy had a cup of tea and a wild romp scone a while back...

     
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    Re:Tabloid slams novelist Mantel over Kate comments 2013/02/19 23:35:32 (permalink)
    Bub


    There was an explosion in KC just a little bit ago.

    Maybe that will take our minds off all this.

    http://www.nydailynews.co...fire-article-1.1268334

    Sounds like someone acted stupidly. 

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    Re:Tabloid slams novelist Mantel over Kate comments 2013/02/20 02:19:50 (permalink)
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    you need to actually here what she said.. to get the full view of it.. regardless of the context it was said, Kate can't reply due to who she is married to..

    I do find it off key due to that and she's had enough on her plate with other things and being pregnant.

    it just seems like the idiot author is trying to get publicity for a book , much like another few folk who make stupid remakes.. many  brits can name of recent times.

    she's a 60 year old woman who should be far more verbose in her words.. also the fact she has a CBE.. ya know the royals gave the author that.. and yet she's quick to slate them.


    it does come across on a personal attack on her and that;s what annoyed folk.


    A typical Daily Mail reader 'tutt-tutt' point of view. 
     
    That is the papers type of readership and the type of reaction it goes for, the Yahoo article you linked to there MM hints at a better perspective of the whole thing, these comments were part of a historical discussion on the topic of the Royals and the public over centuries.
     
    I think what the author said here, many have quietly thought.
     
    Nobody else gives a monkeys.
     
    It doesn't reflect badly on Kate's character anymore than McCartney's 'Her Majesty' did the Queen, it's more of a comment on the tailored and presented image.
     
    I just remembered too that Anne Boleyn got to a point where she couldn't answer back because of who she'd married either...
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    Re:Tabloid slams novelist Mantel over Kate comments 2013/02/20 13:08:06 (permalink)
     "a jointed doll on which certain rags were hung ... a shop-window mannequin, with no personality of her own." 

    High praise indeed for a Royal.   

    What was the bad part?

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    Re:Tabloid slams novelist Mantel over Kate comments 2013/02/20 13:20:04 (permalink)
     Imagine if she had been bad looking....

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    Re:Tabloid slams novelist Mantel over Kate comments 2013/02/20 13:24:47 (permalink)

    I think she got it spot on.

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    Re:Tabloid slams novelist Mantel over Kate comments 2013/02/20 13:28:42 (permalink)
     
    'A plastic princess designed to breed': Bring Up the Bodies author Hilary Mantel's venomous attack on Kate Middleton
     
    Hilary Mantel calls Duchess of Cambridge 'bland' and 'machine made' Said impression of future queen was 'jointed doll on which rags are hung' Author said Duchess was 'born to breed' and a 'plastic princess'  
    A best-selling author who has based her literary career on writing about the Royal family has launched a bitter attack on the Duchess of Cambridge. Hilary Mantel used her position among the novel-writing elite to make an astonishing and venomous critique of Kate. Mantel, whose latest books are set in England's Tudor court and have appeared on the New York Times bestsellers' list, dismissed Kate as a ‘machine-made’ princess, ‘designed by committee’.
     
    Attack: Author Hilary Mantel called the Duchess of Cambridge a 'shop window mannequin' who was 'designed by a committee' with a plastic smile.
     
    Mantel, 60, also scorned her as a personality-free ‘shop window mannequin’ with a ‘plastic smile’.
    She compared Kate unfavorably to both Anne Boleyn – one of her historical heroines – and to Princess Diana, insisting both had more personality.
     
    She said Kate had gone from being a ‘jointed doll on which certain rags are hung’ to a woman whose ‘only point and purpose’ was to give birth.
     
    Mantel said Kate ‘appeared to have been designed by a committee and built by craftsmen, with a perfect plastic smile and the spindles of her limbs hand-turned and gloss-varnished’. She said the Duchess was quite unlike Anne Boleyn, who was ‘a power player, a clever and determined woman'.
    Mantel contrasted her appearance to Prince William’s mother, Diana, ‘whose human awkwardness and emotional incontinence showed in her every gesture’.
     
    Mantel, the author of Wolf Hall and Bring Up The Bodies, the acclaimed novels which detail the failure of Henry VIII’s wives to produce an heir, used a lecture to examine the prospects for the future queen consort.
     
    Mantel said that when she first saw Kate Middleton, she struck her as ‘a shop-window mannequin, with no personality of her own, entirely defined by what she wore'.
    A HISTORY OF HILARY
    Writer Hilary Mantel was born in Glossop in Derbyshire, England in 1952.
    She is the first woman to receive the prestigious British literary award, the Man Booker Prize, twice. She bagged the first of the awards in 2009 for Wolf Hall, part one of her trilogy about Henry VIII’s adviser Thomas Cromwell.
     
    The second installment of the trilogy, Bring Up The Bodies won both the Booker Prize and the Costa Book Of The Year Award last year.
     
    Ms Mantel’s comments on the Duchess of Cambridge’s appearance comes shortly after she spoke about having body issues of her own.
     
    Ms Mantel went from a size ten to a size 20 in nine months after she was diagnosed with severe endometrosis at the age of 27.
     
    The treatment, which included surgery removing her womb leaving her infertile, caused her to gain four stone.
     
    The 60-year-old author said she sometimes dreams of being thin again. Prince William’s wife-to-be was as ‘painfully thin as anyone could wish, without quirks, without oddities, without the risk of the emergence of character’. She added: ‘Presumably Kate was designed to breed in some manners. ‘She looks like a nicely brought up young lady, with “please” and “thank you” part of her vocabulary.’
     
    Mantel spoke of Kate’s appearance in her first official portrait since marrying William, painted by Paul Emsley, which was unveiled last month. She said: ‘Her eyes are dead and she wears the strained smile of a woman who really wants to tell the painter to bugger off.’
     
    Mantel went on to say that female Royals were ‘at the most basic... breeding stock, collections of organs.’
     
    St James’s Palace last week criticized a magazine for printing pictures of Kate’s baby bump taken during a break on the Caribbean island of Mustique.
     
    And they were furious last year when pictures of her topless on holiday were printed in Italy – saying ‘a red line had been crossed'.
     
    But Mantel suggested Kate could have few complaints about private pictures of her being taken on holiday – observing: ‘The royal body exists to be looked at.’ ‘Some people find them endearing; some pity them for their precarious situation; everybody stares at them, and however airy the enclosure they inhabit, it’s still a cage.’
     
    Mantel gave the London Review of Books lecture ‘Undressing Anne Boleyn’ at the British Museum on the February 4. The full version of her speech is to be published in the latest edition of the London Review of Books, out on February 21.
     
    Official bodies: Hilary Mantel said the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge should not complain about invasion of privacy when pictures are taken of them on private holidays as a 'royal body exists to be looked at'
     
    Ingrid Seward, editor-in-chief of Majesty magazine, said Mantel’s comments were unfair. She said that although Diana had at first seemed ‘bland’, later ‘we learned about all the troubles of her marriage and her personality began to shine through. Kate might yet come into her own.’ 'She's a shop-window mannequin, with no personality of her own'
     
    She added that Kate’s duties meant she ‘can’t do anything that might reveal (her) personality.
    ‘They have to be nice to everyone. They are probably stupefyingly bored but they can’t appear to be having anything other than a nice time.’
     
    The Duchess chose yesterday to give an insight into the causes that she will support, hailing the start of a project which will see one of her charities receive a huge financial boost from a philanthropic organization.
     
     
     
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    Re:Tabloid slams novelist Mantel over Kate comments 2013/02/20 13:29:12 (permalink)
    Bub


    There was an explosion in KC just a little bit ago.

    Maybe that will take our minds off all this.

    http://www.nydailynews.co...fire-article-1.1268334

    Oh, thank god. 


    I thought it was an explosion at KFC.
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    Re:Tabloid slams novelist Mantel over Kate comments 2013/02/20 13:33:24 (permalink)
    the KC I know and am a member of  is Keyboard Central a forum for keyboard players' Now they have had flame wars before so it scared me for a minute .

    Harmony Central, on the other hand . MEh along with GS

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    Re:Tabloid slams novelist Mantel over Kate comments 2013/02/20 21:59:55 (permalink)
    considering it's some old "chuckie" looking dorris who got a CBE off the royals.. kinda rich she's got the front to slate someone for their looks .. ya know the looks they were born with.

    if kate had the right of reply , then fair enough... but easy target for a pregant woman that can't reply due to who she is married to.. remember she's had enough crud with idiot aussie dj's already / as it is.

    but it's obvious the comments could easily be taken out of context, it was ignorant of her at worst .. SO WHY SAY IT.
     as an author she should be more verbose for a start to realise that. guess she had a frontal lobotomy or something , as her brain cells seem to be lacking.

    sod all to do with the daily mail.....  I love when people bring that chestnut up.. it's rude and she was. Regardless of it it was a royal or someone on the street.

    there is a saying..  if you got sod all nice to say.. then keep it shut...   does she know her as a person ? HIGHLY doubtful..

    it's pretty much a personal attack on someone who can't reply... and she doesn't need to , due to some fugly bint trying to get some publicity for her cack books.  (oh dear that wasn't professional of me , was it ? )


    sadly there is a difference between personal attacks on people and specifically talking about them in a professional manner.. she doesn't know the difference.
       
    another Samantha brick / Nadine dorries "rent-a-gob" who is just after publicity

    I just find it highly amusing a few of you are defending a woman with a vile mouth on her. There is having an opinion and freedom as speech, but even that has responsibilities
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    Re:Tabloid slams novelist Mantel over Kate comments 2013/02/20 22:55:51 (permalink)

     
    Good rant Fog.  I liked it.
     
    See, you have a right to reply why doesn't Kate again?
     
    I've never come across a pregnant woman who's been short of an opinion yet, oh it's because of who's shes married too I see.
     
    A mannequin of the State it is then, just like the lady you are prepared to trash on the strength of her looks mentioned.

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    Re:Tabloid slams novelist Mantel over Kate comments 2013/02/20 23:14:52 (permalink)
    None of this bores down on the real question though...

    Does she need her kitchen renovated?

     
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    Re:Tabloid slams novelist Mantel over Kate comments 2013/02/21 05:05:11 (permalink)
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    Shouldn't they be more concerned with who might be the baby's father?  I heard that she and Strummy had a cup of tea and a wild romp scone a while back...

     
    I'm getting to the stage where a wild scone seems the more pleasurable option
     
     

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    Re:Tabloid slams novelist Mantel over Kate comments 2013/02/21 06:15:24 (permalink)
    Sounds like you need more T instead of tea! 

     
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    Re:Tabloid slams novelist Mantel over Kate comments 2013/02/21 08:59:04 (permalink)
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    Good rant Fog.  I liked it.
     
    See, you have a right to reply why doesn't Kate again?
     
    I've never come across a pregnant woman who's been short of an opinion yet, oh it's because of who's shes married too I see.
     
    A mannequin of the State it is then, just like the lady you are prepared to trash on the strength of her looks mentioned.

    not a rant.. she don't know the woman properly does she, just from TV etc ? so she should have wound her fat neck in. that's as simple as that .. 

    I guess the comment about professionalism  and lack of on her part.. under such personal comments was missed huh ? not another one for selective reading, I hope.. lemme guess, you are a daily mail reader ? ..LOL

    I just think she has enough of the media already, then some other person trying to court publicity for her books.. joke is , it's done the opposite and people will boycott her books now.


    and the closer.. she was quite happy to delete my rather polite message (and yes it was) on her FB page, because too many agreed with it.. yet has freedom of speech.. oh the irony of it :)


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    Re:Tabloid slams novelist Mantel over Kate comments 2013/02/21 18:25:50 (permalink)
    and the closer.. she was quite happy to delete my rather polite message (and yes it was) on her FB page, because too many agreed with it.. yet has freedom of speech.. oh the irony of it :)

     
    Did she really?
     
    Now that is disappointing.
     
    She should wind her fat neck in, in that case...

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    Re:Tabloid slams novelist Mantel over Kate comments 2013/02/21 20:14:59 (permalink)
    "Baby Bump" WTF??? why oh why is the media trying to be hip/cool/vogue??

    its PREGNANT... with child, bun in the oven,,,

    to hell with word of the day ...

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    Re:Tabloid slams novelist Mantel over Kate comments 2013/02/22 01:57:21 (permalink)
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    "Baby Bump" WTF??? why oh why is the media trying to be hip/cool/vogue??

    its PREGNANT... with child, bun in the oven,,,

    to hell with word of the day ...

    Unless the word of the day is "becan."
     
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    Re:Tabloid slams novelist Mantel over Kate comments 2013/02/22 05:09:12 (permalink)
    So Kate is with Becan?

    No wonder William married her

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    Re:Tabloid slams novelist Mantel over Kate comments 2013/02/22 06:54:06 (permalink)
    I wanna see Kate appear in FHM before I come to a firm conclusion.

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    Re:Tabloid slams novelist Mantel over Kate comments 2013/02/22 08:23:12 (permalink)
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    I wanna see Kate appear in FHM before I come to a firm conclusion.


    with or without the baby bump?

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    Re:Tabloid slams novelist Mantel over Kate comments 2013/02/22 08:44:11 (permalink)
    in the immortal words of "The Conquistador"


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    Re:Tabloid slams novelist Mantel over Kate comments 2013/02/22 10:10:15 (permalink)
     Oh I see I thought the baby bump thing was a set...pregnant..ok.

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    Re:Tabloid slams novelist Mantel over Kate comments 2013/02/22 18:22:24 (permalink)
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    in the immortal words of "The Conquistador"


    WHO CARES????


    +ya!

     
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