Tales of Nocturne (String Quartet)

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2014/05/22 20:53:47 (permalink)

Tales of Nocturne (String Quartet)

I've been working on arranging my piece Tales of Nocturne for a string quartet. I must say that it was harder than I thought it would be. Normally I'll keep throwing on more instruments for help give an overall sound, But I wanted to make it work with just 4 instruments, so that it is possible to play live. 
Anyway the link is down there. Please let me know your views/opinions and general feeling on it.
Thanks for listening.
 
https://soundcloud.com/ru...f-nocturne-string-quar
 
updated https://soundcloud.com/russ-white/tales-of-nocturne-string-quartet 
post edited by gusrogers - 2014/05/24 06:41:13

 
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    teego
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    Re: Tales of Nocturne (String Quartet) 2014/05/22 21:49:08 (permalink)
    That sounds really excellent! If that is soft synths you know how to work them to get them sounding real. Enjoyed it ALOT!

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    Re: Tales of Nocturne (String Quartet) 2014/05/23 14:12:47 (permalink)
    Not easy to do... This is pretty good. That solo violin is so expressive... It felt as if the cellos were a tad out of time in places.

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    Re: Tales of Nocturne (String Quartet) 2014/05/23 14:47:37 (permalink)
    The lower repeated melody notes during the first half sound a little off pitch to me for some reason, or perhaps it's the built-in "bend" that they have.  When the melody jumps up higher during the second half it "feels" better to me. 
     
    But other than I think this turned out pretty well!
     

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    Re: Tales of Nocturne (String Quartet) 2014/05/23 14:49:57 (permalink)
    I agree with teego on the sound of the violins. Pretty convincing on the lead there. I like the composition. In my opinion the lead violin would sound better if if the midrange were more subtle. Good work though.
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    Re: Tales of Nocturne (String Quartet) 2014/05/23 15:06:25 (permalink)
    I'll go along with the other posts, just wonder why the lead sounds in the left channel more with the echo in the right.
    ??
    Perhaps because of the other part, but then I would have had that part in both channels, and the lead in the center, maybe.
    ??
     

     
     
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    Re: Tales of Nocturne (String Quartet) 2014/05/23 15:24:40 (permalink)
    Hi Gus , very nice composition and sounds. Panning seems a bit strange, maybe ?
     
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    Re: Tales of Nocturne (String Quartet) 2014/05/23 16:12:27 (permalink)
    Hey guys, thanks for giving this one a go.
    Yes, I have struggled on this one. This is the best that I've got it so far.

    Normally when a string quartet plays live they are positioned from left to right as following; 1st violin, 2nd violin, viola and cello. Now I didn't want the 1st violin to be far left because of the strange panning, so I swapped the 1st and 2nd, then pulled it in to the center a little more, I think its panned about 30 or 40 to the right. I was unsure about panning it central, cuz I was trying to keep the piece balanced, only using 4 instruments means that on the right is the viola and cello, on the left is the 2nd and 1st violin.
    Perhaps I should listen to a few recordings of quartets to hear how is should be balanced.

     
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    Re: Tales of Nocturne (String Quartet) 2014/05/23 17:58:10 (permalink)
    did you played this yourself. I like this cold track man. fit good on a movie
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    Re: Tales of Nocturne (String Quartet) 2014/05/23 18:32:07 (permalink)
    Thanks for checking it out. No I didn't play any instruments. It's all written within sonar using the piano roll. :)

     
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    Re: Tales of Nocturne (String Quartet) 2014/05/23 22:06:05 (permalink)
    Ok, bit of reading done on mixing quartets and a even more work mixing. End result = 
    https://soundcloud.com/ru...octurne-string-quartet
     
    post edited by gusrogers - 2014/05/24 06:41:42

     
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    Re: Tales of Nocturne (String Quartet) 2014/05/23 22:07:36 (permalink)
    He's a rocket scientist for his day job... You can tell by the "Dr" in the title? So it's "really" not MIDI? Really? LOL!

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    Re: Tales of Nocturne (String Quartet) 2014/05/23 22:09:42 (permalink)
    Robbie, You always bring a smile to my face. look -> :)

     
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    Re: Tales of Nocturne (String Quartet) 2014/05/23 22:56:40 (permalink)
    It is pretty fricken amazing what you did here... What were the plugs used if I may ask? You know, we do have one among us? Scottytunes? He is an "awesome" violinist... It's an incredibly difficult instrument to play, and people who can play it like him deserve much respect. I was fortunate enough to be able to play on a few with Mr. toons. "My high honor to do so."
     
    I can play a bowed instrument? But the only thing that comes out the other end are arrows... (you don't want to be down range? I'm a pretty good musician? But I'm a better marksman ;-)
     
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    I use EWQL Gold like most others? But I have some really good horn samples from samplemodeling.com And I really like the solo violin from East West "Gypsy?" I think they've discontinued it, but it's a really nice solo violin. And their accordions are "awesome..."
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    Re: Tales of Nocturne (String Quartet) 2014/05/24 02:58:35 (permalink)
    I thought the instrumentation and the parts were very well written, you have a great feel for this sort of music. I would have liked a little more light and shade from the lead, it seemed like it was all played at forte, whereas some softer lines would have given the piece some subtlety.

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    Re: Tales of Nocturne (String Quartet) 2014/05/24 04:50:54 (permalink)
    The Band19
    It is pretty fricken amazing what you did here... What were the plugs used if I may ask? You know, we do have one among us? Scottytunes? He is an "awesome" violinist... It's an incredibly difficult instrument to play, and people who can play it like him deserve much respect. I was fortunate enough to be able to play on a few with Mr. toons. "My high honor to do so."
     
    I can play a bowed instrument? But the only thing that comes out the other end are arrows... (you don't want to be down range? I'm a pretty good musician? But I'm a better marksman ;-)
     
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    I use EWQL Gold like most others? But I have some really good horn samples from samplemodeling.com And I really like the solo violin from East West "Gypsy?" I think they've discontinued it, but it's a really nice solo violin. And their accordions are "awesome..."


    Thanks Robbie,
     
    I just checked out his piece 'Lark Ice Medley' cool playing :)
     
     I'll have to get you to record some of your bowing for a future King Arthur or Robin Hood style piece. ;)
     
    The plugs are Hollywood strings gold. The lead is EWQL Violin solo. Gypsy is still available and 1 that I would like to get. 

     
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    Re: Tales of Nocturne (String Quartet) 2014/05/24 04:53:22 (permalink)
    rebel007
    I thought the instrumentation and the parts were very well written, you have a great feel for this sort of music. I would have liked a little more light and shade from the lead, it seemed like it was all played at forte, whereas some softer lines would have given the piece some subtlety.


    Cheers Wayne,


     I think I'm done on this one though. I'll give it a break and listen back tomorrow on fresh ears.

     
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    Re: Tales of Nocturne (String Quartet) 2014/05/24 19:31:40 (permalink)
    Everything sounds really great for me and the balance works out well for the quartet. The mix sounds good and everything falls into place very nicely. Wonderful work on this piece. Enjoyed!!
     
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    Re: Tales of Nocturne (String Quartet) 2014/05/24 19:43:48 (permalink)
    With a real ensemble it probably would sound nice - but with this midi sounds it is a disaster it sounds terrible i am sorry to say. And how did you managed to involve the hum-sound its a riddle in its own mix heaven.
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    Re: Tales of Nocturne (String Quartet) 2014/05/25 00:48:11 (permalink)
    That's cool, I have Gypsy. I really like it, a great solo violin. Good accordions too. 

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    Re: Tales of Nocturne (String Quartet) 2014/05/25 08:13:48 (permalink)
    Thanks for checking it out John. I think its as good as I can get it. It was a good fight and I almost gave in.

     
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    Re: Tales of Nocturne (String Quartet) 2014/05/25 08:16:21 (permalink)
    Eko,
    Thanks for your views. I can't please everyone. I'm happy with it though. Although I've only heard it through headphones.

     
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    Re: Tales of Nocturne (String Quartet) 2014/05/25 13:28:20 (permalink)
    very impressive. beautiful track. i've been wanting to challenge myself by doing various restrictions on what i can do and use... this is inspiring me to try something...

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    Re: Tales of Nocturne (String Quartet) 2014/05/25 13:40:32 (permalink)
    Nicely done

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    Re: Tales of Nocturne (String Quartet) 2014/05/25 13:41:25 (permalink)
    Brilliant, go for. I say try everything. It's rewarding by trying to do things that you've not done before.
    Thanks for your warm words too. :)

     
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    Re: Tales of Nocturne (String Quartet) 2014/05/25 14:48:32 (permalink)
    Thanks wook. :)

     
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    Re: Tales of Nocturne (String Quartet) 2014/05/25 16:54:34 (permalink)
    Well, where do I start 😉. Top stuff my friend keep at it you're doing a fine job.

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    Re: Tales of Nocturne (String Quartet) 2014/05/25 17:00:32 (permalink)
    Thanks Paul.
    I'm learning new things all the time. Thanks for getting me into sonar.
    Welcome back btw.

     
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