Tascam US-1641

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2009/05/10 01:17:57 (permalink)

Tascam US-1641


I ordered a tascam us-1641 friday night from guitar center

the story - - I made $200 cash in febuary from a private party where I ran the mixing board -- I forgot I had the dang 200 bucks until i was cleaning out a drawer I put it in

being sick of the drivers on my alesis firewire 12 disappearing after a reboot or in a middle of a song -- I got to thinking -- Guitar center will give me a 100 bucks for this POS -- I have an extra 200 I forgot about -- and i can spend at least 100 without feeling any heat in my checking -- so away I went to guitar center and had them order the Tascam us-1641 I read a ton of good reviews on it

between the alesis (they did give me 100 bucks credit for it) the 200 cash I forgot about -- it only FELT like i was spending $136 with tax -- that came out of my checking account :)

anyway -- I read lots of good things about this unit -- some not so good -- but mostly good -- the main thing it seems is that the usb card chip cant be Nivida (spelling) mine isnt so i am ok


I was wondering what your opinions on the tascam us-1641 -- as I anxiously await for its arival

Paul
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    jeffb63
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    RE: Tascam US-1641 2009/05/10 05:05:51 (permalink)
    I've always thought that the US-1641 looks like an absolute bargain and they should sell them by the bucket load.

    Please let us know how you get on as I would be very interested in one of those for portable recording.

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    RE: Tascam US-1641 2009/05/10 05:39:03 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: jeffb63

    I've always thought that the US-1641 looks like an absolute bargain and they should sell them by the bucket load.

    Please let us know how you get on as I would be very interested in one of those for portable recording.



    I'll let you know when it gets here and its up and running.

    i thought the alesis firewire 12 was a bargain -- until i worked with it -- man those drivers are awful -- and now alesis gave up on the unit and discontinued it -- GC gave me 100 bucks credit for the unit -- its all I expected them to do ... I did have some successful recordings on it the 2 years I owned it -- but man -- what a PITA -- drop outs -- drivers vanishing -- constant buffer adjusting -- I am back on my tascam us-122 until it gets here some time this week..... i think the us-122 is a great 2 channel unit --- never had a problem on it on my lap top or desk top --

    I too am eagar about the us1641 -- I hope its as good as the reviews I read -- if i have problems with it ( i hope not)-- Then I plan on taking it back and getting an edirol -- if its as trusty as the us - 122 i will be happy

    Paul
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    RE: Tascam US-1641 2009/05/10 09:08:17 (permalink)
    I'll let you know when it gets here and its up and running.


    Cheers.

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    RE: Tascam US-1641 2009/05/13 13:56:06 (permalink)
    the ups tracking number says it will be here thursday

    Iam jumping up and down with excitement

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    RE: Tascam US-1641 2009/05/14 23:06:49 (permalink)
    I got it I got it I got it I got it I got it I got it I got it I got it I got it I got it I got it I got it

    It works good it works good it works good It works good it works good it works good

    One of the things I researched about it - was that it doesnt work so good if you have a Nvidia chip runnig your usb 2.00 -- tascam said to either run it at high latency (blach) or get a card that doesnt have a Nvida chip set

    since I had a week to wait for it -- i installed a via chip usb 2.00 card with 5 ports to dedicate to the 1641... My usb ports are Nvida chip sets so - I had no choice ... no big deal -- was like 15 bucks at tiger direct over here -- easy install


    so i picked it up after work today

    1. Downloaded the latest drivers from tascam web site --
    2. Installed easily in like 5 minutes -- although you have to plug and un plug the usb a few times -- just follow the instructions on the screen -- its easy
    3. right away it played mp3 files from itunes and windows media player -- no problem
    4. ran some tests with sonar 8PE - records my v drums -- no problem via midi at lowest latency -- easy to play in sync with any song i choose -- v-drums are triggering ezdrummer
    5. wont record audio at lowest latency -- it has to be set to to "normal latecy" in the firmware -- still no problem to sync and play along on electric guitar with ease --
    6. everything plays back fine at any latency
    7. I didnt know channels 9 and 10 ( quarter inch inputs) on the front also have pre amps -- so you have 8 XLR pre amps and 2 quarter inch pre amps - all record very well -- pre amps are good -- not bad at all -- not THE BEST -- but good
    8. The knob that lets you mix your input volume VS the mix volume is great -- especially for the vocalist that wants the music turned down and his vocals turned up -- just awsome

    so -- the only time i had drop outs was while recording audio at lowest latency -- but recording midi (as siad earlier) v-drums triggering ezdrummer -- i could do at lowest latency no problem -- the audio from my guitar was recording at "normal" latency and I found nothing that was intorable with that setting -- no noticable delay that would throw you off

    so -- ive only been at it for 3 hours or so -- but as of right now -- ITS A WINNER!! I LOVES IT (knocking on wood)























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    RE: Tascam US-1641 2009/05/15 08:59:28 (permalink)
    come on people -- can I get an AMEN! for the tascam us-1641????

    lets go peeps!!!!


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    RE: Tascam US-1641 2009/05/15 16:38:09 (permalink)







    awww come on -- someone show there enthusiasm with me for crying out loud

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    RE: Tascam US-1641 2009/05/16 16:21:43 (permalink)
    maaaaaan!!!

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    RE: Tascam US-1641 2009/05/17 16:11:17 (permalink)
    Sorry. Just got back from a family wedding up country.

    I'm chuffed it's working so well for you. Definitely getting more interested.

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    RE: Tascam US-1641 2009/05/18 21:00:42 (permalink)
    I'll bite on this one ! I've been thinking of getting either this interface or the edirol m-16dx mixer. Glad to read a positive review here on the forum....I've got a firepod currently but I wanted more inputs to record the worship band at my church.

    Question: could you use the mic inputs for line inputs? Would you need a pad ?

    Glad to hear the latency is not bad as well.It sounds like the unit is very similar to the firepod as it dosn't have a software mixer,just a balance knob like this unit. How do you think the pre are compared to the firepod? ( that is if you have ever used a firepod....)

    Thanks,
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    RE: Tascam US-1641 2009/05/18 21:57:35 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Jtbass

    I'll bite on this one ! I've been thinking of getting either this interface or the edirol m-16dx mixer. Glad to read a positive review here on the forum....I've got a firepod currently but I wanted more inputs to record the worship band at my church.

    Question: could you use the mic inputs for line inputs? Would you need a pad ?

    Glad to hear the latency is not bad as well.It sounds like the unit is very similar to the firepod as it dosn't have a software mixer,just a balance knob like this unit. How do you think the pre are compared to the firepod? ( that is if you have ever used a firepod....)

    Thanks,
    Jt



    You can only use mics on the mic inputs -- so i guess you would need a pad. (whats a pad?) they have 8 XLR all with pre-amps on the front -- then you have 2 line inputs on the front as well also with pre-amps -- so all all together 10 inputs and 10 pre amps on the front

    on the back there are 4 line inputs but no pre amps and 2 digital inputs (I have no need for the digital inputs I dont think)
    also on the back are monitor outputs and 4 extra outputs to anything

    so it advertise as 16 inputs and 4 outputs -- even though i look at it as 14 inputs and monitor out with 4 extra outs I dont count the 2 digital ins (shrugs)

    i almost bought the edirol us 101 for 10 inputs and the limiter -- but it only had 2 pre-amps on it so I passed on that purchase ..... although i have several art pre amps laying around and a 2 channel berringer pre amp --

    i dont know enough about the edirol m-16dx mixer to really comment -- I just looked at a web site about it -- it looks all right -- but personally i would get the tascam 1641 instead -- just make sure you dont have a usb card with a Nvida chip -- tascam manual even states that it has problems with that chip -- lucky for me i had an extra pci slot and picked up a new usb 2.00 card for 15 bucks at tiger direct -- works great ( i had originally bought a dynex from best buy to solve the Nvidia chip issue and my computer didnt reconize it ????- when i updated the drivers they were from 1999-- wow!!!!)

    like i said ended up buying one from tiger direct for 15 bucks and 5 usb 2.00 slots and a via chip in it -- works great

    edirol is over all very compatable with sonar i know that -- very popular with sonar users as well -- people on here love edirol -- so they must be decent I would think

    the choice is yours

    as far as people complaining about tascam -- I dont know -- I used the tascam us 144 for 5 years with no problems as well -- so I like them thus far

    hope that helps

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    Re: RE: Tascam US-1641 2009/12/25 13:08:48 (permalink)
    These are on sale now at musicians friend.  I'm thinking about ordering one.  Does anyone else have any comments to make about it?
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    RE: Tascam US-1641 2009/12/30 10:20:45 (permalink)
    Waiting on mine from Long and McQuade here in Canada if you have any problems in the next week or so let us know.
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    RE: Tascam US-1641 2010/02/04 19:47:10 (permalink)
    Feb 4 2010 -
    Just tried this unit on a windows 7 64 bit machine - with the vista/xp 64 bit driver listed in previous post. Upgraded firmware to 1.02, and drivers for 64 bit only mention Vista and XP. Mixed results.

    Pros: Recorded 10 audio tracks simultaneously - perfect.  Added another track dubbing, recorded fine, with computer audio monitoring too long delay.

    Cons (fixed - see Feb 5 update below): Major mouse problems - For example, in firefox, mouse cannot click any links with this unit on. Turn off the 1641 and restart firefox and the mouse is fine again, links work again. Also inside Sonar, mouse click to activate a recording track, 2 seconds delay before track light comes on. If you impatiently click twice, the light finally come on and then goes off. So the Vista driver doesn't seem to be optimized for Win 7, probably taking too much a share of the USB bandwidth. Otherwise pretty nice (though nearly an excessive 11" deep and not too portable) rackmount unit, and the price is right, but I'm not sure if I want to wait for Win 7 drivers and lose the return option. Too bad the Tascam site doesn't give any clues as to if or when they might get to this. Might be my computer, as I've had other less serious loss of mouse control issues, such as the mouse not responding after computer tries to wake up after sleep.

    Update: Feb 5.  Fixed Computer Mouse timeout issue, which seems to have also fixed the mouse hangup 'usb sharing' problem mentioned above.  Other possible 1641 related system conflicts appear when 1641 is in use, such as windows media player freezing up during video playback, internet connections suddenly dropping out. Hard to know if 1641 driver is to blame for any of this or not, but the windows media player did much better on the internal audio card and using a firewire device by m-audio.

    This is what I did: Control Panel, Systems and Security, Power Options, changed to High Performance, selected Change Plan Settings, then Change Advanced Power Settings, USB Settings, USB Selective Suspend Setting, changed to Disabled.
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    RE: Tascam US-1641 2010/02/23 10:55:55 (permalink)
    Email reply from Tascam support, Feb 22 2010:

    For both the US-1641 and the US-2000 we have Windows 7 32 bit drivers at the moment, we are still developing the Windows 7 64 bit drivers. Those drivers should be available soon. I do not have an expected release date for those drivers. If you are a registered U.S. customer, you will receive an email when a date has been established or when it has been determined that no further driver updates will be available for a particular model.
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    RE: Tascam US-1641 2010/03/31 13:06:46 (permalink)
    Noticed that a newer 64 bit driver for the US-1641 has appeared on the Tascam website, Windows driver ver 2.01 (64-bit) (download). The website doesn't specify whether this is for windows 7 or not, but at least there's some activity. Haven't tested it yet...
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    RE: Tascam US-1641 2010/03/31 15:08:29 (permalink)
    I'm using the newer driver 2.01 on a Windows 7 64 bit system, good system, i7 chip, 9 gigs or ram, etc.

    This driver is working much better. Now I can run my Vegas video program with the US-1641 for audio and the program isn't crashing like it would with the last Vista 64 bit driver. Previously I could only use the US-1641 with Sonar, but video programs couldn't handle it.

    Windows media player also works with this audio device, tested with AVCHD video playback. OK, good, seems stable. Time will tell but so far so good.
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    RE: Tascam US-1641 2010/04/14 11:48:09 (permalink)
    I just bought one from Musicians Friend,  Open box with 15% off sale price. $223
    Using Vista 32bit OS.  Loaded drivers and played back a couple projects with no problem.
    Have to wait for this weekend to test out the multi track recording.
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    RE: Tascam US-1641 2010/10/14 23:54:47 (permalink)
    Any updates skylab/beroger0? Is the 1641 still working out for you?

    I use Sonar 6 HS and also have Sony Vegas (Movie Studio). Everything worked fine with my US122-L until I upgraded my hd, and installed Windows 7 x64. Now it's ok except for the occasional screeching tantrum, then I just unplug the usb cable/plug back in and it works fine after that. No more native plug ins though, as they all 32-bit except for the Boost 11...
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    RE: Tascam US-1641 2010/10/15 00:18:14 (permalink)
    boobtube21


    Any updates skylab/beroger0? Is the 1641 still working out for you?

    I use Sonar 6 HS and also have Sony Vegas (Movie Studio). Everything worked fine with my US122-L until I upgraded my hd, and installed Windows 7 x64. Now it's ok except for the occasional screeching tantrum, then I just unplug the usb cable/plug back in and it works fine after that. No more native plug ins though, as they all 32-bit except for the Boost 11...


    I'm still using Vista 32...I'm too chicken to upgrade, everything is working so well right now I really don't want to look for trouble.  And I have already bought the Win7 upgrade as well as Sonar 8.5...I'm still using Sonar 7. 
    I'm recording our band live at our church as well as doing a weekly podcast.  The US1641 is working great. I'm recording all 14 channels.  I'm looking at another preamp with duel inputs and S/PDIF out to the digital input of the US1641 to get the full 16 channels.  But most of those look pretty pricey.  The ART DPS II looks like it might fit the bill.
    Tascam came out with 64bit drivers for Win7/Vista/XP  http://tascam.com/product/us-1641/downloads/
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    RE: Tascam US-1641 2010/10/15 04:58:59 (permalink)
    I just bought one from a friend who needed to sell off some of his gear.  Works fine with my internet computer with X.P.  Haven't tried it with my studio puter yet. Plan on using it with my laptop for a portable system for tracking. I wish they would have made it rack mountable.
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