boonesyndicate
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Tassman 4 vs. Reaktor (which one?)
Which one is the easiest to use?
Which one is more robust?
Which one works best with Cakewalk products? (specifically P5 and Sonar)
Which one do you like the best?
Looking into purchasing on of these at some point. Looking for opinions.
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nachivnik
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RE: Tassman 4 vs. Reaktor (which one?)
2004/06/10 15:34:35
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Lucky for you, both companies have demos of them, so you can figure out which one you like best. I have Tassman 3 DXi and I don't use it much. I'd use Reaktor more I think. OTOH, I may spend some more time with Tassman.
Both work fine with SONAR and Project5.
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Mike West
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RE: Tassman 4 vs. Reaktor (which one?)
2004/06/10 16:51:30
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I only know the Tassman, and at that not very well. Man that thing is deep. But WOW it makes a nice noise. As Howdy mentioned there is a demo. Definitely worth downloading and trying. I've never had a problem with the Tassman. It works with Sonar, P5, and FL Studio. I have no opinion about Reaktor since I don't know it. But I sure would say don't rule out Tassman without have a look at it! P.S. This is my 500th Post. I am glad it's in the Project5 forum.
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majormidi
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RE: Tassman 4 vs. Reaktor (which one?)
2004/06/10 16:57:29
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ORIGINAL: boonesyndicate
Which one is the easiest to use? Neither
Which one is more robust? I think Reaktor is better
Which one works best with Cakewalk products? (specifically P5 and Sonar) - Both work perfectly fine
Which one do you like the best? I like Reaktor the best because there are so many choices of synths available. Native Instrument's web site offers literally hundreds of Reaktor Instruments for free. Of course, the quality of these instruments vary greatly, but there are LOTS of them.
Looking into purchasing on of these at some point. Looking for opinions.
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rabeach
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RE: Tassman 4 vs. Reaktor (which one?)
2004/06/10 22:32:42
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ORIGINAL: boonesyndicate
Which one is the easiest to use?
Which one is more robust?
Which one works best with Cakewalk products? (specifically P5 and Sonar)
Which one do you like the best?
Looking into purchasing on of these at some point. Looking for opinions.
i have no idea which is best i have tassman 3 dxi. the only thing i see negative about tassman is their lack of backward compatibility on new versions.
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zendin
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RE: Tassman 4 vs. Reaktor (which one?)
2004/06/10 22:47:45
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I've heard great things about Tassman, but I have no direct experience with it. I did get Reaktor 4 recently, though, and I have to say it's an awesome tool! It makes some absolutely incredible sounds and the synth engine is very powerful.
One thing to point out about Reaktor is that it's not a synth per se, but a synth and sound-building toolset. You get many synths and other types of noisemakers with Reaktor and more are available for download free on NI's web site.
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mike85021
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RE: Tassman 4 vs. Reaktor (which one?)
2004/06/11 08:52:32
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ORIGINAL: boonesyndicate
Which one is the easiest to use?
Which one is more robust?
Which one works best with Cakewalk products? (specifically P5 and Sonar)
Which one do you like the best?
Looking into purchasing on of these at some point. Looking for opinions.
I've had Tassman for several incarnations, and only had a small problem using it with P5 (a sizing problem when viewing it). I has great sound, and a lot of patches. Registration is the challange/answer method with a huge key that must be obtained whenever you need to reinstall the program, so if/when the company goes belly up, your investment (which is not a small thing) is lost. Don't get me going on this type of registration scheme!  I have come to avoid any company that incorporates it, and for that exact reason will not be updateing to the current rendering of Tassman. If you purchase something, especially if you pay a lot for it, you shouldn't have to jump through hoops to register it, and registration shoudln't be at the mercy of the company selling it, or their existance. (Oops, got on the soapbox anyway!)
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Monkey Mouse
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RE: Tassman 4 vs. Reaktor (which one?)
2004/06/11 11:03:40
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I've been looking at Tassman & Reaktor also... Seem too close to call in just listening to the MP3s and not using the demos. I'm not a guy who wants to go deep deep deep into synth construction, but that is me. I have been looking at Linplug Albino, which can make some sweet sounds, is modular (not at the tassman or Reaktor level) and is not too complicated for a low-patience type like me. Check out Albino too.....
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PaintedBlue
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RE: Tassman 4 vs. Reaktor (which one?)
2004/06/11 13:47:10
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Albino 2 is excellent on so many levels, but it really is a different type of product than Tassman or Reaktor. Doesn't mean you should ignore it, though...  My personal take on Tassman vs. Reaktor is this: Reaktor has a much larger user community, so you will get more out of your investment in this sense (i.e. downloading others' ensembles). Tassman users rarely contribute their creations (although the SATURN6 instrument on patcharena.com is quite amazing), and the overall support from Applied Acoustics isn't all that wonderful. I, too, have chosen not to upgrade to Tassman 4... I like the product (and I definitely like Applied Acoustics' Lounge Lizard 2), but, at this point, I am looking to spend my money elsewhere due to the general lack of support in the past from AAS.
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zendin
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RE: Tassman 4 vs. Reaktor (which one?)
2004/06/11 17:15:06
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I think another important consideration is the predominant type of music you'll be using the synth for. I checked out the demo of Albino II before making a decision and it sounded like a very powerful synth, but it seemed pretty one dimensional.
Sounded like a raver's dream to me, but if you're not doing that type of music I imagine you'd have to do some tweaking. Most of the patches I heard, anyway, were definitely geared towards techno/rave, etc..
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rabeach
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RE: Tassman 4 vs. Reaktor (which one?)
2004/06/11 18:23:13
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ORIGINAL: PaintedBlue
........ I, too, have chosen not to upgrade to Tassman 4... I like the product (and I definitely like Applied Acoustics' Lounge Lizard 2), but, at this point, I am looking to spend my money elsewhere due to the general lack of support in the past from AAS.
yea that too now that i think about it. i will keep tassman 3 dxi but will not be upgrading because of registration and a total lack of support from aas. they are not called aas for nothing. tassman could be one of the finest synth building products on the planet; go figure. now that i think of it sync modular i use a lot also, very reasonable in the money department but may no longer be available. cool little program.
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xraydelta1
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RE: Tassman 4 vs. Reaktor (which one?)
2004/06/11 20:34:03
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I GIVE YOU MY PERSONAL GUARANTEE THAT REAKTOR 4 KICKS TASSMAN'S ASS.
YOU BE THE JUDGE.
Go and download both as a demo and TRY them. It will be obvious which one is better lol.
And another thing is, ALBINO 2 is just a synth, not a modular(rearangable), super duper sound creation thingy like reaktor. I do agree that ALBINO 2 kicks farkin arse though. Totally one of my fav plug ins.
But as far as UNIQUE, CRAZY, HARD, analog and granular sounds, REAKTOR cannot be beat.
If any of you know granular synthesis, you'll know what i am talking about. Granular synthesis just has this super soft, digital crunchy, i dont know what to call it sound-anyway REAKTOR does granular very well, as well as HARD analog like a sledge hammer in your face type of pump.
Download the damn demo and quit yer belly achin.
Go pistons!
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mike85021
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RE: Tassman 4 vs. Reaktor (which one?)
2004/06/12 00:29:37
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ORIGINAL: Monkey Mouse
I'm not a guy who wants to go deep deep deep into synth construction ... I have been looking at Linplug Albino, which can make some sweet sounds, is modular (not at the tassman or Reaktor level) and is not too complicated for a low-patience type like me. Check out Albino too.....
If that's the case, Tassman is not for you -- it's very modular. Albino is great but my fav is RGCAudio z3ta+.
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ecamburn
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RE: Tassman 4 vs. Reaktor (which one?)
2004/06/12 10:09:09
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ORIGINAL: mike85021
ORIGINAL: Monkey Mouse
I'm not a guy who wants to go deep deep deep into synth construction ... I have been looking at Linplug Albino, which can make some sweet sounds, is modular (not at the tassman or Reaktor level) and is not too complicated for a low-patience type like me. Check out Albino too.....
If that's the case, Tassman is not for you -- it's very modular. Albino is great but my fav is RGCAudio z3ta+.
Yes, but Reaktor Session may be an option for you. It has all of the ensembles of Reaktor plus you still have access to the 1500+ user ensemble library. The only limitation is that you can't create your own ensembles. FWIW, I own Tassman 3 and Albino 2 and I'm demoing Reaktor Session (plus Rhino, z3ta, and Absynth  ). I think you'll find that the range of sound production capability in Reaktor far surpasses many if not all of these synths. The synths themselves are great and off the shelf Reaktor comes with about 4 of them. Then there are the sequenced synths which produce some really cool grooves (just can't figure out how to sync them to P5's tempo, see acidized samples thread). Then you get samplers and sample manglers and a ton of really nice effects. I like the sounds Tass 3 puts out and Albino is my favorite plug, but neither of them compare with the ***range*** of tools you get with Reaktor. And like others have said, you gotta get the demos to see if you like the sounds and if you like tweakin em. Happy hunting.
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rabeach
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RE: Tassman 4 vs. Reaktor (which one?)
2004/06/12 16:37:12
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ORIGINAL: xraydelta1
I GIVE YOU MY PERSONAL GUARANTEE THAT REAKTOR 4 KICKS TASSMAN'S ASS.
YOU BE THE JUDGE.
Go and download both as a demo and TRY them. It will be obvious which one is better lol......
i already own dynamo and it only kicks ass when it doesn't hang/lock up.
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