Tassman 5 will not happen

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    Re: Tassman 5 will not happen 2017/10/27 22:55:37 (permalink)
    Thanks for the info, MR.

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    Re: Tassman 5 will not happen 2017/10/28 02:22:42 (permalink)
    I assume they meant to say "deprecated" rather than "depreciated". It's still appreciated, just not for sale anymore.
     
    I'm a little disappointed they didn't offer some kind of close-out sale. I'd have given them 20 bucks for it, strictly as-is.
     


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    Re: Tassman 5 will not happen 2017/10/28 02:30:53 (permalink)
    The are selling it at the $99 education discount price. A little much for orphaned software.
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    Re: Tassman 5 will not happen 2017/10/28 06:52:24 (permalink)
    such a shame, but i suppose it's a better business model producing the instruments they do than that big daddy

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    Re: Tassman 5 will not happen 2017/10/28 18:12:54 (permalink)
    bitflipper
    I assume they meant to say "deprecated" rather than "depreciated". 



    Good catch.
     
    I do hope they are coming up with a replacement product.  I understand quite well how much of a mess old code can be to work with, and wouldn't blame them for wanting to start from scratch.

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    Re: Tassman 5 will not happen 2017/10/28 19:28:16 (permalink)
    bitflipper
    I assume they meant to say "deprecated" rather than "depreciated".



    Well, English is a second language to them (they are French Canadian and French is the language spoken at their office), so I'll cut them some slack on this one. 
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    Re: Tassman 5 will not happen 2017/10/28 19:33:02 (permalink)
    The optimist in me wanted to believe that there would be a v5 with, if nothing else, a new UI. So much for optimism.
     
    Shame because the existing UI means that I don't use it as much as I probably should. I know it shouldn't matter really but it's hard to look at compared to others.
     
    Hopefully there will be an upgrade path for the replacement. There's that darned optimism showing it's head again.......
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    Re: Tassman 5 will not happen 2017/10/29 16:17:48 (permalink)
    I love Tassman 4, I'd have liked to see what they did with V5, but I imagine it is not their top seller, and the announcement suggests that the code base has become difficult to manage. Pity!

    I've owned it since it was an add-on for Sonar, and cross-grade almost immediately to the full version. It was a remarkable tool, but it was also a resource hog, and it kind of fell by the wayside for a bit. I can't remember exactly which version broke the resource barrier (I think it was 3?) but once it became usable I returned it to its proper place in my plugin menus<G>! It remains part of my template, and about the only reason I can think of to ditch it would be when it stops working - or when AAS introduces a replacement that is worthy.

    Don't get me wrong, I use Ultra-Analog and String Studio, and I think their current versions were well thought out improvements on the originals. But nothing quite sounds like Tassman. I hope it works for a long time!

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    Re: Tassman 5 will not happen 2017/10/31 04:53:44 (permalink)
    This makes me sad. I really love Tassman, and hope they come out with something comparable. It has a unique flavor of synthesis, and unlike most, I really love the interface.
     
    I've been really nostalgic lately for the early music program and VST scene. There were so many weird and experimental programs and plugs released back then. I feel like that spirit of adventure has run the course, and it's a shame. I spent two days digging through 8 terabytes of backup storage collecting all the weird plugs I used to use. Unfortunately, most of them are 32 bit, so I don't know how well - or even if - they'll run. 

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    Re: Tassman 5 will not happen 2017/10/31 09:56:19 (permalink)
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    http://www.dontcrack.com/news/2017/10/applied-acoustics-systems-tassman-4-depreciated/
    https://www.applied-acoustics.com/tassman-4/faq/

         FWIW, though AAS is based in Montreal,  both co-founders are actually from France.
    https://www.applied-acoustics.com/about/
    Incidentally, AAS correctly referred to Tassman as "deprecated" not "depreciated" on their website -  https://www.applied-acoustics.com/tassman-4/faq/
    The reference to T4 being "depreciated" came from the "Don't crack" folks (DC is also apparently based in Montreal, and I assume ARE Canadian (though I don't know if they are French Canadian or not. Could just be anglo-Canadians who can't spell (like me)).
     
         That said - I am still hopeful for Tassman 5. In their statement, AAS never actually say that there won't be a Tassman 5 (unless I missed it). They have deprecated Tassman 4 specifically, and use the version number specifically, then went on to proclaim their belief in a future for a modular environment. In the past they took a lot of flack for incompatibility between versions (T2 to T3 IIRC) - and I am guessing they are sensitive to releasing T5 as a completely incompatible version to T4, which is probably necessary to maintain compatibility with all of their other products. 
    So -  I am keeping faint hope that AAS are just managing expectations and that there will in fact, be a Tassman 5.
    (sorry for the long post - got up early and waiting for inspiration to strike).
     
     

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    Re: Tassman 5 will not happen 2017/10/31 16:12:57 (permalink)
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    then went on to proclaim their belief in a future for a modular environment.




    By modular, I believe they mean HW modular. They very recently collaborated with intellijel (a Canada-based eurorack modular company) on this: 
     

     
    So I would expect more of that rather than SW modular stuff.

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    Re: Tassman 5 will not happen 2017/10/31 16:54:25 (permalink)
    yeah, audiodamage have also started doing hw stuff https://audiodamage.com/collections/eurorack

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    Re: Tassman 5 will not happen 2017/10/31 19:49:25 (permalink)
    So has Sonic Charge with Microtonic/PO-32 albeit in a more limited way. Seems like a step backwards IMO (From the point of view of someone who sold off all of his hardware synths a few years ago.)
    Ah well -  

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    Re: Tassman 5 will not happen 2017/10/31 22:32:21 (permalink)
    Backwards? Nah. IMO HW is the only right way to do modular, and in the last few years the eurorack modular market has been exploding even if it's still a niche within a niche.
     
    The advantages of SW are polyphony and presets/repeatability. But with SW modulars you tend to end up with "synth builders" which often have explicitly separate builder screens and you end up being in either "building mode" or "playing mode". With a HW modular you aren't really done creating the patch until you turn the whole thing off, and experimentation is immediately rewarded and completely addictive. It's just different. And it's not the same as non-modular analog HW synths vs. VST emulations either.
     
    Having said that, SW like Tassman and Reaktor do what they do very, very well and there's nothing wrong with a great synth builder.

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    Re: Tassman 5 will not happen 2017/10/31 23:37:39 (permalink)
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    The advantages of SW are polyphony and presets/repeatability

    Exactly - it would be like dumping Microsoft Word to buy an electric typewriter. Thanks/ no thanks.

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