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Technical help? USB Microphone woes. :( - RESOLVED
Hi everyone, I'm new here. I'm also new to Cakewalk. I've been doing MIDI for a while, but I was using other programs prior to this. I've been trying to get everything set up, but I've been having some difficulty. First, let me start by saying that I have SONAR Artist, which I'm running on a Windows 7 Pro OS. I tried looking in the Cakewalk Help, but I can't seem to find anything specific to Artist. The few files that I did find dealing with microphones talked about connecting a standard mic or a 1/4" mic to a processor. I don't have that. I have a Blue Yeti USB microphone. I know that the computer will see the microphone because I can record with it in other programs. But, when I make a new audio track in Sonar and I set the input device to the Blue Yeti (which SONAR sees and populates in the drop-down menu), when I press record in the track settings I get nothing. No sound is captured from the microphone. I'm totally stumped. Any help would be kindly appreciated. Thanks!
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Re: Technical help? USB Microphone woes. :(
2015/05/08 23:08:48
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There are 2 places to set record. In the transport control at the top of the Sonar screen and on the track. The top one sets record but the track one enablee recording on the desired track. In your case that's just one but with many audio interfaces you may want to record with multiple inputs at the same time. So you would enable recording on all the desired tracks and engage recording in the transport control.
Please read through the help menu which has tutorials covering the basic function. Just open Sonar and press F1.
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Re: Technical help? USB Microphone woes. :(
2015/05/09 01:05:35
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Thanks Mudgel. I had actually already browsed through the help file and I didn't see anything useful in there. The button that you describe on the top control bar is a moot point in my case as my project only contains 1 track. Whether I'm trying to record 4 tracks simultaneously via the top record button or a single track the result is the same; SONAR recognizes that I have the USB mic plugged in, but is not detecting any sound from it. I will go through the help file again, but I didn't see anything in there dealing with USB microphones specifically.
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Re: Technical help? USB Microphone woes. :(
2015/05/09 02:45:35
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☄ Helpfulby JohnClayborn 2015/05/09 13:10:38
No you misunderstand. One enables record, the other engages record. You must press the 2 to go into record mode.
The help I was referring to was in the tutorials that Sonar provides on the basic functions like audio recording.
USB microphones are setup the same as any USB interface.with one difference that you not not have to set up the timing input master which will be your microphone but also a timing master output, which needs to be your sound card. It's found in one of the 3 Preferences>Audio selections.
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Re: Technical help? USB Microphone woes. :(
2015/05/09 09:01:41
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Is it the Yeti or Yeti Pro? According to Blue, the Yeti requires no special drivers to be used, which is not good. That usually means you have to use the MME driver mode instead of WDM or ASIO. What driver mode are you using in SONAR? The Yeti Pro requires special drivers, which can be downloaded from Blue. The Yeti is not compatible with USB 3. It is compatible with USB 1.1 and 2. Do you know which kind of ports you have?
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Re: Technical help? USB Microphone woes. :(
2015/05/09 11:12:52
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mudgel No you misunderstand. One enables record, the other engages record. You must press the 2 to go into record mode.
Ah! I figured it out. Thanks!
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Re: Technical help? USB Microphone woes. :(
2015/05/09 11:23:46
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57Gregy Is it the Yeti or Yeti Pro? According to Blue, the Yeti requires no special drivers to be used, which is not good. That usually means you have to use the MME driver mode instead of WDM or ASIO. What driver mode are you using in SONAR? The Yeti Pro requires special drivers, which can be downloaded from Blue. The Yeti is not compatible with USB 3. It is compatible with USB 1.1 and 2. Do you know which kind of ports you have?
It's a regular Yeti, and I have USB 3.0, but the Yeti records just fine in any other application. I figured out what Mudgel was talking about with the 2 record buttons, so I'm going to try that. I think it'll work no problem now.
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Re: Technical help? USB Microphone woes. :(
2015/05/09 13:05:35
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It's working now. :) Thanks everyone!
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Re: Technical help? USB Microphone woes. :(
2015/05/11 07:44:07
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☄ Helpfulby JohnClayborn 2015/05/11 10:00:09
FWIW, I find the easiest thing to do is enable the Record widget on the applicable track, then press "R" to record or Spacebar for normal playback. When you're done, just disable the tracks' Record widget.
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Re: Technical help? USB Microphone woes. :(
2015/05/11 08:16:49
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Sorry to go off topic here, but it's related ... how does one use a USB mic with a Windows app like Sonar? Do you just give up monitoring while you record? Or do USB mics work differently than other USB devices?
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Re: Technical help? USB Microphone woes. :(
2015/05/11 08:19:20
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No you monitor through the onboard sound card
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Re: Technical help? USB Microphone woes. :(
2015/05/11 08:28:26
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The Yeti (according to their web site) and some other USB mikes have headphone outputs.
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Re: Technical help? USB Microphone woes. :(
2015/05/11 08:30:56
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mudgel No you monitor through the onboard sound card
So how are both selected in Sonar at the same time?
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Re: Technical help? USB Microphone woes. :(
2015/05/11 08:32:55
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57Gregy The Yeti (according to their web site) and some other USB mikes have headphone outputs.
So you change your selected interface in Sonar, select the mic, do your recording, then select the normal interface again? I'm asking because I know of no way to have multiple interfaces selected at the same time, recording from one while monitoring with the other.
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Re: Technical help? USB Microphone woes. :(
2015/05/11 08:51:13
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It's done through the recording and playback timing master. I think it works because the microphone driver only presents an input side leaving the output side for use by the onboard audio driver which of course will be WDM or MME.
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Re: Technical help? USB Microphone woes. :(
2015/05/11 08:53:45
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mudgel It's done through the recording and playback timing master. I think it works because the microphone driver only presents an input side leaving the output side for use by the onboard audio driver which of course will be WDM or MME.
Bright light flash! No ASIO ... thanks for typing slowly :)
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Re: Technical help? USB Microphone woes. :(
2015/05/11 09:00:48
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I've checked the Blue website, there is a zero latency headphone connector on the mic or USB plug. It is possible to address 2 different devices by using WDM driver and setting one as the playback and the other as the recording timing master in preferences audio.
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Re: Technical help? USB Microphone woes. :(
2015/05/11 09:02:58
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Re: Technical help? USB Microphone woes. :(
2015/05/11 10:00:31
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Thanks for the additional comments and insight guys. The Yeti, in particular, does have a headphone jack right on the bottom of the mic and windows recognizes it both as an input and a playback device. I'm not doing too much that's terribly complicated with it at the moment. I'm basically either recording MIDI tracks from my Alesis, or I'm using the Yeti to do voiceover recordings, which are almost always just one track at a time.
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Re: Technical help? USB Microphone woes. :(
2015/05/11 10:58:09
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I looked at the Yeti's specs on their website. What a shame it only works at 16 bit. Especially with a microphone, being able to use 24 bit would be so much better in creating a lower noise floor and wider dynamic range. While 16 bit is the CD standard we know that being able to record in 24 bit makes for greater tolerance in levels needed to get a good mic recording.
It's surprising the number of quality mic manufacturers who are getting into this market. Frankly USB Mics have a pretty poor reputation based on a history of the cheap ones that flooded the market initially and providing very poor performance often not working very well with programs like Sonar. Their reputation is only a little higher than Sound Blaster type onboard sound devices in a PC.
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