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2017/03/16 17:52:04 (permalink)

The Bakery -- not very bakey

I am able to comment on posts on the bakery, but....  I still cannot vote -- or use tags.  I've tried on my phone as well as on my laptop in a regular browser.  
 
I must be missing something obvious....
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Re: The Bakery -- not very bakey 2017/03/16 21:28:14 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby tlw 2017/03/17 12:39:02
The bakery is where good posts go to die.

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Re: The Bakery -- not very bakey 2017/03/16 21:30:13 (permalink)
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The bakery is where good posts go to die.


It's cruel and unusual punishment!
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Re: The Bakery -- not very bakey 2017/03/16 23:41:02 (permalink)
i went there a few times when it first opened, it's just not that friendly/welcoming or something, doesn't feel like a place that you could/would spend time hanging at, and that may well be the idea behind it, in and out, straight to the point, no messing about. can't see it being a success (aside from perhaps the bugs and issues side of things, maybe feature requests) unless of course they close this place down, but i don't think that would work out well for them, or be a good idea, and i think they know that. but . . . stranger things have happened.
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Re: The Bakery -- not very bakey 2017/03/17 01:01:59 (permalink)
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The bakery is where good posts go to die.


Pretty much like 'Feature Requests' before it.

 
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Re: The Bakery -- not very bakey 2017/03/17 08:42:58 (permalink)
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I am able to comment on posts on the bakery, but....  I still cannot vote -- or use tags.  I've tried on my phone as well as on my laptop in a regular browser.  
 
I must be missing something obvious....




If you cannot vote or tag, maybe you are using a script blocker. The bakery uses some scripts hosted outside of cakewalk.com.
 
Personally, I don't think the bakery is a bad idea. But it should be integrated somehow into this forum. It looks like only few people go to the bakery, and most answers there are from two or three people only. Just a large nice banner on top of this forum may help to draw users who are accustomed to using this forum to have a look at the bakery from time to time as well.
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Re: The Bakery -- not very bakey 2017/03/17 11:24:30 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby RSMCGUITAR 2017/03/19 21:04:34
A lot of the bakery's problems for me are asthetic.  I tend to do my forum browsing in studio breaks on an android tablet. From this perspective, a thread list consisting of a tiny orange font with small line spacing and huge margins on a white background = not a particularly pleasing browsing experience to say the least.
 
It seems to be change for its own sake, as the recording of feature requests and problem reports was not an issue for users on the old system. The 'single point of failure' if there was one appeared to be getting someone from Cakewalk to read and respond to them.

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Re: The Bakery -- not very bakey 2017/03/17 11:24:48 (permalink)
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I am able to comment on posts on the bakery, but....  I still cannot vote -- or use tags.  I've tried on my phone as well as on my laptop in a regular browser.  
 
I must be missing something obvious....



Don't feel bad......I don't even know how to get to it........
 
Not that I'm bothered - I saw it once when someone put a link up and it was all a bit of a mess IMO. The posts in the threads seemed to be all over the place and it wasn't easy to read at all. 
 
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Re: The Bakery -- not very bakey 2017/03/17 12:20:30 (permalink)
Just doesn't feel like a forum community.

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Re: The Bakery -- not very bakey 2017/03/17 13:02:47 (permalink)
I couldn't vote either the last time I was on the site, about a month ago.
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Re: The Bakery -- not very bakey 2017/03/17 13:29:03 (permalink)
The bakery's was never created as a replacement for these forums. these forums are way to valuable to simply 86 them.
 
The bakery was created as a solution to find support and get user feedback.
However, Its difficult to use. but that's only my opinion.
 
Biggest issue to me:
-navigation. its hard to find what your looking for.
-The tagging system. in order to post something you need to have a tag which some don't appear to exist.

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Re: The Bakery -- not very bakey 2017/03/17 14:43:33 (permalink)
It does appear to me there's no movement/fanfare there at the moment. The most voted Idea, Expand / Collapse Track Folders in Console View has yet to appear in the What's New - Upcoming Updates section, or The Bakers haven't given any indication this will be implemented.
Noted, that only very major features would be shown there, but the Idea suggested above seems to be quite old now.
Does voting truly make a difference with The Bakers, or will they still cherry-pick ideas?



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Re: The Bakery -- not very bakey 2017/03/17 16:02:09 (permalink)

Don't feel bad......I don't even know how to get to it........



I found it once and wished I hadn't, so consider yourself fortunate...
 
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Re: The Bakery -- not very bakey 2017/03/17 16:23:48 (permalink)
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Don't feel bad......I don't even know how to get to it........



I found it once and wished I hadn't, so consider yourself fortunate...
 
Walt




The only way I can find it is to Google or Bing it, I honestly can't see how to get to it from the Cakewalk site. Shouldn't it be in the dropdowns under 'Community' or 'Support'? I must be stoopidish

 
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Re: The Bakery -- not very bakey 2017/03/17 16:32:31 (permalink)
[Feedback Loop] Features and Ideas
 
Top item contains the link

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Re: The Bakery -- not very bakey 2017/03/17 16:46:25 (permalink)
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[Feedback Loop] Features and Ideas
 
Top item contains the link


 
Thanks Colin.

 
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Re: The Bakery -- not very bakey 2017/03/17 22:51:21 (permalink)
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It does appear to me there's no movement/fanfare there at the moment. The most voted Idea, Expand / Collapse Track Folders in Console View has yet to appear in the What's New - Upcoming Updates section, or The Bakers haven't given any indication this will be implemented.
Noted, that only very major features would be shown there, but the Idea suggested above seems to be quite old now.
Does voting truly make a difference with The Bakers, or will they still cherry-pick ideas?


Yeah, I have no clue.  We just know they're listening.  The show expand/collapse folders in Console View just seems like it would be so easy to do.  Maybe they have a more complicated plan.
 
Many of us have the same ideas being exposed to other daws, but sifting through The Bakery is just ridiculously tedious. 
 
It would be great if CW would at least lest us sort by date or ranked  ideas by up/down votes. 
 
Right now it just looks and feels messy. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: The Bakery -- not very bakey 2017/03/18 04:34:35 (permalink)
As a developer myself I use a site called StackOverflow that offers a similar interface with votes and tags. It works really well for the development community and I can see why something like this might appeal to Cakewalk.

My issues with it are mainly:
- I can't vote (tried many browsers)
- I can't tag (ditto)
- I find it hard to read (orange/white)

StackOverflow works because
- it's used by a massive number of developers
- developers understand this kind of techie/geeky interface

I think the forum style of gathering ideas lends itself better to the non-tech community. My advice would be for us to return to the way it was, but have items cherry picked into the bakery for voting only (with an easy link from the forum to the bakery). That way you get the best of both worlds perhaps.

EDITED: typos that weren't typos but where my spell-checker knew better (incorrectly)
post edited by VariousArtist - 2017/03/18 05:27:48
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Re: The Bakery -- not very bakey 2017/03/18 04:42:12 (permalink)
Good idea. Maybe post it as a Feature Request in the Ideas area of The Bakery.
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Re: The Bakery -- not very bakey 2017/03/18 05:03:39 (permalink)
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A lot of the bakery's problems for me are asthetic.  I tend to do my forum browsing in studio breaks on an android tablet. From this perspective, a thread list consisting of a tiny orange font with small line spacing and huge margins on a white background = not a particularly pleasing browsing experience to say the least.
 
It seems to be change for its own sake, as the recording of feature requests and problem reports was not an issue for users on the old system. The 'single point of failure' if there was one appeared to be getting someone from Cakewalk to read and respond to them.


I must agree with this, and I think for the bakery to really work effectively, there must be at least one Cakewalk employee regularly (daily, weekly . . . ?) responding and interacting in the bakery to give visitors a sense that they are truly connecting to the Cakewalk development team (if that is even the intention of this mysterious bakery ?) . . . since it currently seems to be a bunch of data with very little updating or moving ahead occurring there . . . boredom begets indifference.

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Re: The Bakery -- not very bakey 2017/03/18 08:22:09 (permalink)
Easiest way to find it is from the Platinum start screen where you select a little cupcake in the top right corner..

Bake away.

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Re: The Bakery -- not very bakey 2017/03/18 08:47:29 (permalink)
or HERE.
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