The Battle

Another orchestra piece ! Any suggestions on how I can improve the realism would be cool ! How does the balance of the mix work ? Its called the Battle,please follow the link !
Kev

thanks !

kev11111111111111


Another orchestra piece ! Any suggestions on how I can improve the realism would be cool ! How does the balance of the mix work ? Its called the Battle,please follow the link !
Kev

         Very cool ,would make a great theme song for the TV series GOLD RUSH .
          Watching the shaker pan out the gold while listening to this tune of yours very cool stuff .

Radio

At which points can you hear the latency ?

everytime the strings play a fast part. I know how difficult it is to work with orchestral samples and make them sound like a real orchestra. I'm dealing with this problem all the time. one of our weapons is the reverb. it makes them sound smooth and more real. but as you know reverb places the soundsource in a distance. the more the reverb the greatest the distance between the source and the listener. so even though you've succeeded making the orchestra sound real, there's big time difference between the beat and the orchestra which is noticable in the fast playing parts. it's not a real problem if you offset 20-30ms in advance the orchestra. then they'll be in perfect time with the beat and still sound real!

giankap

At which points can you hear the latency ?

everytime the strings play a fast part. I know how difficult it is to work with orchestral samples and make them sound like a real orchestra. I'm dealing with this problem all the time. one of our weapons is the reverb. it makes them sound smooth and more real. but as you know reverb places the soundsource in a distance. the more the reverb the greatest the distance between the source and the listener. so even though you've succeeded making the orchestra sound real, there's big time difference between the beat and the orchestra which is noticable in the fast playing parts. it's not a real problem if you offset 20-30ms in advance the orchestra. then they'll be in perfect time with the beat and still sound real!

Ahh that makes sense ! Sounds quite complicated to set up in fact though.All the instruments,except the drums /percussion would then have to be nudged forward a little yes to compensate for the reverb ? Maybe I'll try.Also maybe making the predelay longer might help somewhat I guess going by this logic ? Thanks for listening and your criticism,appreciated !
Kev

morenoise


Hi Kev, excellent tune, like the orchestration. Sounds pretty real to me. Maybe you could feature the guitar a bit more ? 

Greetings, Rik


Sure,I think the guitar could have more a place too !! The reason why I've backed off from putting more in though is cos its my main instrument-and I need to think more outside my own box if you know what I mean lol !! Get out of my comfort zone.
Glad you liked the piece anyway !
Kev

I posted a piece called 'The Wall' which ended up sounding more like a gun-battle than anything.  It's so different from this it's not funny. :-)  Anyway, this is excellent!  I'm no pro with orchestration, but it sounds good to me!  Ron F. (he IS a pro!) says to actually move back the (midi notes for) the instruments in the back since you actually do hear them a bit after the beat.  It's not hard if you lasso the whole track of each instrument and move them back a tiny bit.

Great job! 

Janet


I posted a piece called 'The Wall' which ended up sounding more like a gun-battle than anything.  It's so different from this it's not funny. :-)  Anyway, this is excellent!  I'm no pro with orchestration, but it sounds good to me!  Ron F. (he IS a pro!) says to actually move back the (midi notes for) the instruments in the back since you actually do hear them a bit after the beat.  It's not hard if you lasso the whole track of each instrument and move them back a tiny bit.

Great job! 

I'll have a listen to your piece ! Yes I've heard a lot of Ron's stuff,its always a pleasure to listen to.I see what you're saying about moving the midi notes back,maybe this would be easier than fiddling with reverb or what have you.I read somewhere too,that even if the notes are placed exactley on the beat they still need to be pushed back in order for them to sound on the beat (with certain libraries) - so I guess I'll have to start trying this sooner rather than later !!! Many thanks for listening,I will listen to your piece now,
Kev

thepogue


yea I love this tune..great tension!..

1+ on Rik comment as far as featuring the guitar a bit more...

nice work!

thanks ! I liked the guitar too :)
Kev

It seems to start rather abruptly? I played the beginning twice to make sure. Based on the dynamic use of instruments? And arrangement? You may consider an arrangement without that snare/hat in the song (IMO) It doesn't feel like it fits.  Or maybe some other more eclectic percussion. 

Kev, nice composition and balance. I like the motion and brisk pace.
I get more feel of a hunt than a battle, and from the perspective of the huntee. Some of the passages convey a sense of outright terror.

Well done.

Lowline


Hi

I had a good listen to a lot of your tracks on SoundClick and really enjoyed all of them, I think your music is very good.

Cheers

Great to hear !!! (Pssst your money is in the post)
Kev

mstodge


Wow Kev. This was amazing. I listened three times as it left me wanting more and more.

The composition is fantastic. I didn't have the same timing issues with the fast violins as the others have stated above. Sounded great to me.

Wonderful stuff.
Mark.

Cool,glad you enjoyed it and thanks for your feeback !
Kev

mgh


hey Kev, superb dude! i really enjoyed this, trip-hop, jazz and now orchestral! very cool and suspenseful.

Hey !
Hows it going ? Yep the trip hop was getting too dark,and the jazz too self-indulgent lol !!!! Gonna take this path and see where it takes me.Glad you liked the piece anyway,I'll keep you posted mate,
Kev

vechung


Wow!  Sounds amazing.  Lots of drama, a bit of James Bond?  I wish I could enjoyed longer as the piece is only 1:42.  However, I do not have any problems hitting the replay button over and over. 

Thank you !... hitting the replay over and over,lol thats cool !!
Kev