The City

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2016/04/30 14:53:30 (permalink)

The City

Hello people,
 
 Just about finished something new for me, and I'm in need of your ears to let me know how this mix translates to you. Any problems with it? any ideas of where I could improve the production. All help most welcome.
 
 
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    daryl1968
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    Re: The City 2016/04/30 15:47:35 (permalink)
    Excellent composition. I love the blend of the orchestral and synth sounds.
    I really get the city reference. It conjures up pictures of busyness etc. My only suggestion is that it feels a little long and lost my attention around 2 minutes.
    Listening on earbuds in my phone so will listen to the mix properly later.
    Great stuff.
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    Re: The City 2016/05/02 09:10:56 (permalink)
    All I can say is I'm glad I don't live in that city
     
    This mix is so busy that it is really hard to discern the different things that are going on. The organ kind of rides herd over everything else in several places because it is so big. There is some harsh sounding distortion on the drums (loop?) and with the reverb wash, the drums take up too much space in the middle. If the reverb is part of the loop or samples, I'd suggest replicating the drums with a different kit.
     
    There are lots of starts and stops, which I would guess is an interpretation of traffic? However, I never felt any melodic theme really grab me and "drive" the song in any particular direction. You've got some really good ideas here, but I'd reset the mix and remove all the reverb. Then think about that melody.
     
    From 10000 feet, this tune is a cross between a James Bond theme and something with a little more undercurrent. I'd push it more towards the latter, IMO...
     
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    Re: The City 2016/05/02 09:27:49 (permalink)
    Composition wise this has quite a bit going for it, but it does get very dense in places making it difficult to focus on the different parts.  I was also waiting for the gut rumbling roar of something but it did not quite happen.  Close but not quite there yet Gus but you have the skills to pull it together.
     
    Thanks for sharing.

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    Re: The City 2016/05/02 14:27:59 (permalink)
    +1 to the above comments.  Really cool tune, but the density does seem to not add to the effectiveness... though I'm not sure if its the parts you've written or the sounds themselves - there seems to be more than one with some distortion that could be adding up (along with/in addition to reverb). 
     
    To quote Wookiee - "you have the skills to pull it together". 
     

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    Re: The City 2016/05/02 23:18:30 (permalink)
    I didn't find it so dense, but just the particular heavy drums that come in halfway through seem to distort in spots - give a listen to 2:24 - 2:25 and I think that crunchiness is filling a lot of the low end, so perhaps it loses some mix clarity because of the drums.
     
    Otherwise this thing kicks ass in a Cirque du Soleil kind of way.
     
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    Re: The City 2016/05/14 06:26:14 (permalink)
    Thanks ever so much guys. Your feedback has been extremely helpful. I mix using headphones so I probably miss a lot of the fact that I've added too much verb, Now that I have started to tweak it, I can hear the difference, the version that I have up at the moment is highly dense. I've cut it back a lot, spent more time eqing the drums/percussion.
     
    Not sure what to do to add this rumbling roar that you feel that it needs Wook :)
    And Tom, I am now watching Cirque du Soleil.  I had never seen it before, it is mindblowing. Also loving most of the music too. thanks for that.

     
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    Re: The City 2016/05/14 16:05:18 (permalink)
    Very intense but I really liked this. Great playing too. Mix was good.

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    Re: The City 2016/05/14 17:52:19 (permalink)
    No really my Genre, but I enjoyed hearing it. I can't give you any advice on the mix because I am no pro that's for sure. 
     
    But I will offer you what I am hearing and my opinion, it sounds like the whole song/music needs to sound Wider or bigger, maybe louder a bit on everything but not obvious and maybe a little more spread on the audio to where it's not so much centered to give you that feel that your hearing something recorded in a theater. Well, I'm not describing compression or Reverb, I'm talking about, or ambience for that matter. I think what I am trying to say is something just doesn't sound right with the panning and it sounds too distant. 

    Either way, like I said I'm no professional and this is not my Genre of music, I'm just telling you how I heard things. 
     
    I really enjoyed hearing it either way, great stuff!!! Thanks for posting this, I liked it otherwise I wouldn't have commented on it, I just feel like it needs more power to the sound and like I said I'm no pro and no mix master so I don't know how you do that, those were just suggestions or ideas I mentioned earlier. 
     
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    Re: The City 2016/05/20 16:33:16 (permalink)
    Thanks Noize,
    The piece hasn't been mastered so that would make the track louder. I have remixed it a little, as per advice from the top team above. I guess I would find it easier to mix if I could use monitors. I have taken some of more verb off to bring it all nearer.
     
    Thanks again for listening and your feedback. It all helps! :)
     

     
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    Re: The City 2016/06/03 21:20:38 (permalink)
    this is a very cool tune...lots going on and it kept my interest all along the way...I would only add that I think the room for the kit was too big....
     
    good work! 
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    Re: The City 2016/06/03 21:20:46 (permalink)
    this is a very cool tune...lots going on and it kept my interest all along the way...I would only add that I think the room for the kit was too big....
     
    good work! 
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    Re: The City 2016/06/03 21:28:08 (permalink)
    It's a cool movie soundtrack.

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    Re: The City 2016/06/04 16:13:47 (permalink)
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    Thanks Noize,
    The piece hasn't been mastered so that would make the track louder. I have remixed it a little, as per advice from the top team above. I guess I would find it easier to mix if I could use monitors. I have taken some of more verb off to bring it all nearer.
     
    Thanks again for listening and your feedback. It all helps! :)
     


    i love the sounds you have on this. also the tune itself. re the mix, make sure you high pass filter almost everything (if not everything) to give you more headroom (lots of tracks have subsonic rumble). you may need to edit individual hits on drums/toms to reduce their gain. using synths exclusively makes mixing hard because by their nature they tend to be BIG sounding - wide/octaved/chorused etc
    but you get a thumbs-up from me!

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