MCi
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The Hunter
Hi, I am a fan of the TV show the Game of Thrones. I particularly enjoy the genre and quality of the production. The lyrics of The Hunter are inspired by the show. I was trying for a big guitar sound and was listening to the Black Keys a lot at the time and I recall trying to get a bit of their sound going. Not sure I achieved it but its a big guitar song all the same. The Hunter https://soundcloud.com/mceye/the-hunter
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dcumpian
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Re: The Hunter
2016/07/27 08:36:36
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Overall, I think you came close to the sound you were aiming for. One thing this track could use is a shaker or something (metal percussion?) to keep the rhythm moving forward because the drums, while cool, leave too much space between some beats.
Also, I would vary the delay on the voice a bit, or duck it so it doesn't stomp on the lyric.
Regards,
Dan
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Re: The Hunter
2016/07/27 13:55:09
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this is quite good! that guitar is great!
I know you're going for a "sound" but you've got so much processing on the vox I can't understand what you're singing most of the time. I'd back off at least part of the time like Dan suggests
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MCi
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Re: The Hunter
2016/07/27 16:23:21
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Thanks Dan and Reece for your feedback. I am glad I got close and I agree on the vocal effect being over done. I will head back into the mix as soon as I can to fix and add your suggestions.
post edited by MCi - 2016/07/27 17:06:50
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Re: The Hunter
2016/07/27 17:41:23
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MCi,
Nothing to add to the comments above. Shaker is a great suggestion as is some random metal clanks (hammer on anvil type stuff). Enjoyable listen overall.
Regards
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Re: The Hunter
2016/07/27 19:43:40
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I like the use of the delay on the voice, but sometimes it gets in the way of understanding what you're singing. Otherwise, it's an enjoyable tune.
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MCi
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Re: The Hunter
2016/07/30 23:46:33
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Hi, I have made some changes based on the feedback received. I will no longer under estimate the power of a shaker, thank you Dan for that. I also added some metallic sounds as suggested. Unfortunately I could not find the entire mix on my system (I knew my poor housekeeping would bite me on the a#@* one day) and I only have the master file now. It can only be on a drive that crashed on me earlier in the year which I am still trying to retrieve the data from. In the hope to make the vocal more coherent on this mix I removed a stereo imagine plugin and raised the high frequencies keeping in mind not to take it too far and introduce ear fatigue. I also raised the lows a bit to counteract. I think the vocals now pop out more but there is still to much delay and reverb effect. This maybe the best I could do until I can get back my mix. Unless you guys have further suggestions. https://soundcloud.com/mceye/the-hunter
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Re: The Hunter
2016/07/31 08:55:48
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Man, I really like this. Your vocals and the effect work perfect for it too. Great mood here, good playing and mixing. If this came on the radio, I'd have to say 'hold on fellas, I got to turn this up for a minute'.
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Re: The Hunter
2016/07/31 10:52:31
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I would definitely recommend backing off on the reverb.
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Re: The Hunter
2016/07/31 12:21:38
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Gotta go against the grain here and say the vox does not need to be "up front" for this kind of piece IMO. Adds to the mystery.
+1 on the shaker and metal hits (here and there).
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Re: The Hunter
2016/07/31 12:32:51
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Really glad I got to listen to this! I love the off-kilter drums vs. bass line, that's some cool writing there.
Your excellent EXCELLENT guitar work does have a few crackles/pops as you must be overloading 0db in spots. Tiny crackles, for example look at 0:44 area . . . am I hearing them or imagining them?
As far as vocals, well to be honest your treatment of them at least in my opinion kind of holds the song back . . . it's just my opinion and you are totally the commander of that ship. If you gave me the wheel, I'd take the slapback delay completely off ( I think your singing is perfectly fine without it) and just go with reverb, less of that, and I might double or thicken the vocal line.
So I hope you can find your mixes, good luck! It's a really cool tune and a great listen the way it is, thanks.
-Tom
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MCi
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Re: The Hunter
2016/08/01 16:49:58
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Voda La Void
Man, I really like this. Your vocals and the effect work perfect for it too. Great mood here, good playing and mixing. If this came on the radio, I'd have to say 'hold on fellas, I got to turn this up for a minute'.
This is a great compliment. Thanks Tim.
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Re: The Hunter
2016/08/01 16:58:56
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I agree there's too much delay on the vocal but I love the production and performances.
Really nice.
(Big GoT fan here too)
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MCi
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Re: The Hunter
2016/08/01 17:00:09
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emeraldsoul
Really glad I got to listen to this! I love the off-kilter drums vs. bass line, that's some cool writing there.
Your excellent EXCELLENT guitar work does have a few crackles/pops as you must be overloading 0db in spots. Tiny crackles, for example look at 0:44 area . . . am I hearing them or imagining them?
As far as vocals, well to be honest your treatment of them at least in my opinion kind of holds the song back . . . it's just my opinion and you are totally the commander of that ship. If you gave me the wheel, I'd take the slapback delay completely off ( I think your singing is perfectly fine without it) and just go with reverb, less of that, and I might double or thicken the vocal line.
So I hope you can find your mixes, good luck! It's a really cool tune and a great listen the way it is, thanks.
-Tom
Thanks Tom for your feedback. I do have some serious compression and limiting pushing into the red on the master which maybe the cause of the crackle. I also have to push the master fader a bit it achieve loudness even then I need to boost the gain even more to match most of the songs posted here. Tried again to get the drive going by swapping out the card on the drive but no luck. This mix maybe lost forever unless I want to fork out some big dollars.
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Re: The Hunter
2016/08/04 17:47:42
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I see you are going to be fun(I did listen to your Stairway song). Welcome to the forum. Vocals do seem a bit back. I like GOT and can visualize a scene with this in it. It is a big sound, maybe a bit too big? I don't know. Actually I think the guitar is too loud and the vocal is ok. I'd turn those down just a bit and it could improve the vocals.
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Re: The Hunter
2016/08/04 18:43:46
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You wanted a big guitar and thats what stood out. I liked the play between the snare and cowbell too.
Clearer lyrics (at least on the hook) would make me more likely to hit repeat.
Cian
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Re: The Hunter
2016/08/08 12:56:41
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Very cool. I like the overall vibe and your choice of instrumentation.
Mix-wise I do like the delay on the vocal, though personally I would lower and/or EQ those echos a bit so they don't conflict as much.... or maybe automate around the sections where there are more words and leave the longer tails for line endings.
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