The MIDIOT is BACK!

Other things related to this I'd like explained so I can understand...
 
I guess it is the midi-crosstalk issue if I tried to get the other instruments on this midi track to work, but I never could get all working at the same time??? Meaning I have 4 synths in the Synth Rack, and choose AD for the drums, Kontakt for the bass, z3ta+ for guitar(sounded good), and True pianos for the keyboard parts all on their respective outputs on different channels. Like the bass went to a z3ta+ patch when I inserted it for another track.
 
The Scarbee Bass in Komplete just has a 4-string with a low E, this song has lower tones and so it will not play them(even when I lowered the pitch). BUT, if I change it to a piano, it is fine. Anyone encounter this? And is there a good bass synth that has a 5 string?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

I use a single midi track for the main drum midi data, and one additional midi track that I use for a click track.
 
All of my drum kits used in songs are in custom kits in Battery 3, with each cell containing the exact samples for the particular kit piece.  Each cell is then routed through Battery 3's internal mixer to go to its own separate stereo audio outputs.
 
Then, in Sonar, I set up separate audio tracks for each kit piece, and different clumps of drums are sent to their own bus, then those buses feed the main drums bus, which then feeds the master bus.
 
Every time I build a custom kit in Battery 3, I get all the cells set up, along with the audio tracks and buses, then save it off as a track template, so that I can quickly insert a ready to go drum kit in the future.
 
While some folks once in a while post about splitting each drum note off to its own midi track, it seems most folks use 1 midi track for all of the drums data.
 
I believe it MUCH easier to work with it all in a single midi track for editing, and in general, and splitting all of the kit pieces to their own audio tracks gives me all of the control over drum volumes and effects that I could ever want.
 
Think of what you would need to do to change a beat, or fix a roll, if each drum was on its own midi track.  What a nightmare.
 
I hope any of the above give you some things to think throiugh.
 
Bob Bone
 

Yikes!
 
(kidding)
 
I have to grab some sleep, and then will be gone until Saturday afternoon, but will post some steps for you then.  Happy to help.  :)
 
Bob Bone
 

It's probably easier to have separate threads... Anyway...
Nope but then I'm running X3E which has MIDI fixes.
Your signature states X3C. Please install X3E and perform a VST reset.
 
You need to rule out or tell us whether this is a MIDI IN issue or an output issue. Do the instruments trigger correctly when you play the keyboard (you should get a visual indication)? Or are you simply playing back the MIDI files?
 

hockeyjx
I guess it is the midi-crosstalk issue if I tried to get the other instruments on this midi track to work, but I never could get all working at the same time??? Meaning I have 4 synths in the Synth Rack, and choose AD for the drums, Kontakt for the bass, z3ta+ for guitar(sounded good), and True pianos for the keyboard parts all on their respective outputs on different channels. Like the bass went to a z3ta+ patch when I inserted it for another track.

 
Not quite sure I understand the issue, but it sounds like it relates to channels not being set correctly. In other words, the MIDI track's channel output needs to be set to the same channel the synth is set to receive.
 

The Scarbee Bass in Komplete just has a 4-string with a low E, this song has lower tones and so it will not play them(even when I lowered the pitch). BUT, if I change it to a piano, it is fine. Anyone encounter this? And is there a good bass synth that has a 5 string?

 
The Scarbee bass runs out of samples below E. You can take the lowest sample and transpose it to cover a lower range, but that's not something I can describe how to do without having Kontakt in front of me (I'm at a different computer right now). Transposing will affect the fidelity to some degree.
 
The lack of 5-string bass samples bothered me as well, so I created a Dimension Pro expansion pack based on Gibson's EB 5-string bass. It's currently on sale for $9.99 and has eight different bass sounds (the EB has some interesting pickup wirings that give eight distinct sounds). There are audio examples on the linked page.

Like the bass went to a z3ta+ patch when I inserted it for another track.
 
This makes me think your not setting the track outputs to the synth you want. 
Oh,, just a minute, I just read this very slowly and I think your saying the bass tracks output changed when you inserted a new synth for another track?? 
This sounds like the tracks are linked together because you have cloned them..

But if all his outs are on channel 10, wouldn't it change to the last syth played?

There's your problem, I didn't see your last post so I missed the Channel 10 thing, Why are you doing that? As the others have stated we normally assign a different channel for each instrument or at least use Channel 1 for Pianos and stuff and 10 for drums. 
To me it's a midi sacrilege to use ch 10 for anything but drums.  
 

Simply the setup.
 
When inserting synths use the default values provided by the "Insert Soft Synth Options" dialog, except uncheck "Enable MIDI Output".
 
Forget about channel assignment, it does not matter to Addictive Drums or Z3TA+. It could matter to Kontakt but should not if only one instrument is loaded.
 
Forget about multiple audio or MIDI tracks for the synths. Just get the basic tracks working. All the multi-IO for the drums can be done after the basic tracks are setup and working.
 
Take care when assigning inputs for recording and keep track of input echo.