maltastudio
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The Mac version download where?
Hi all is the Mac version ready? If so how can I download it? I have a old I7 Mac and would like to try it one day. Peace
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Re: The Mac version
2016/10/18 04:47:45
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There was a beta release announced for the fall .
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Re: The Mac version
2016/10/18 07:48:16
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An Alpha release. Not a Beta. It's to test the viability of a Mac version of Sonar.
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Re: The Mac version
2016/10/18 08:09:15
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Where is the download?
Peace
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Re: The Mac version
2016/10/18 08:52:41
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No download yet. There'll be an announcement when it's released to the public.
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Re: The Mac version
2016/10/18 09:05:31
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You aren't the only one waiting eagerly...it will be buggy I am sure at first, but if they give it the same attention that Windows got, it should be pretty sweet.
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Re: The Mac version
2016/10/18 20:27:11
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An Alpha release. Not a Beta. It's to test the viability of a Mac version of Sonar.
Oh its very Viable for me, especially since I paid for the lifetime update "because" of a Mac version. Im sure Im alone in this so tell um to hurry the heck up will ya? 
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Re: The Mac version
2016/10/19 03:39:33
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I don't remember reading any Cakewalk announcement that said they were definitely going to release a Mac version.
The alpha version is to test the waters.
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Re: The Mac version
2016/10/19 05:11:00
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Unfortunately if it's going to be half-assed it will be impossible to go head to head with a competitive package like Logic. I hope "alpha" doesn't mean no Melodyne/ARA, Drum Replacer, Addictive Drums etc.
Even with those it's a rough battle against Logic with its reputation and massive amount of content. I wish them luck but I hope it won't be a massive waste of resources for those of us who enjoy Sonar on Windows.
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Re: The Mac version
2016/10/19 06:17:53
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☄ Helpfulby coolbass 2016/10/21 07:13:36
While I run Logic Pro on my Mac Pro, I have always run Cakewalk on either a PC or now in boot camp. If there was an easy way to completely switch back to using Sonar, and retain the superior Mac platform, natively and immediately as wanted, I'd be much happier.
Logic is powerful, but, imho, Sonar still does somethings better.
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Re: The Mac version
2016/10/19 07:41:18
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I agree which is why I'm using it. But I do like some things better in Logic. Point is in order to compete, I think Sonar needs more than a "try out" version. Let's wait and see what it entails though.
As for the Mac platform being superior, I think the past few years Windows has gotten a lot better (fixing a bunch of issues and getting smoother in general) and Mac has gotten a lot worse (plenty of audio and upgrade problems especially past Mountain Lion). By now it seems pretty much a matter of taste to me.
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Re: The Mac version
2016/10/19 07:57:38
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They said very early on the alpha release will not include 3rd party application and not even the full platinum plugin set. For free test software it still sounds like it will be the best thing on the market in that category.
If they get to the post beta pay version you can then expect melodyne, drum replacer, AD as a possibility.
OP - Mac products and applications are notorious for no longer working as they switch operating systems. Not sure what version you are talking about, but using the term old throws up a red flag for potential non-compatibility.
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Re: The Mac version
2016/10/19 10:57:54
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SanderxpanderI hope "alpha" doesn't mean no Melodyne/ARA, Drum Replacer, Addictive Drums etc.
i expect that this is exactly what it means, it is an alpha after all... having said that, it has been a few months since the teaser video, so... who knows?
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Re: The Mac version
2016/10/19 11:28:55
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SanderxpanderI hope "alpha" doesn't mean no Melodyne/ARA, Drum Replacer, Addictive Drums etc.
i expect that this is exactly what it means, it is an alpha after all... Yes, that is exactly what Alpha means. The only way Cakewalk will find out the technical constraints and market reaction is to start the process, and it starts with an alpha that's free to get as many reactions as possible. But they need to be very, very careful. Apple could decide tomorrow to bundle Logic Pro X for free, and pull the rug out from under everyone. Doubtful? Yes, but dropping Logic to $199 was totally unanticipated too. There is risk, so Cakewalk is doing this in a gradated way to a) minimize those risks, and b) not impact SONAR.
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Re: The Mac version
2016/10/19 11:41:33
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Well I guess I'm a musician and not a market analyst for a reason but doing it this way feels like a recipe for failure to me. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think other new(-ish) players on the market arrived with some unique features to distinguish them from the competition (Reaper, Bitwig, StudioOne). They each have a small but loyal following.
Bluntly, to me it doesn't feel like Sonar can really turn heads if you leave out things like ARA and AD. I've seen this a lot first hand when I go to other studios where everyone uses PT (big budget recording), Logic (fellow musicians/producers) or FL (the hip hop/EDM crowd). The only thing that impresses them is Melodyne and the quality of AD. For the rest it's "it looks crappy and I can already do that in Logic/FL/PT".
That said, in a way I hope it is successful because for better or worse somehow Mac gets a lot more respect amongst musicians. I would maybe feel less defensive when I say I use Sonar.
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Re: The Mac version
2016/10/19 12:04:35
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Bluntly, to me it doesn't feel like Sonar can really turn heads if you leave out things like ARA and AD. It's an alpha it's not designed to turn heads, it's designed to test feasibility. If the response is good, there are novel plans for the Mac version that transcend competing with other Mac DAWs.
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Re: The Mac version
2016/10/19 12:46:40
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Then I suppose I just wonder what "good response" entails. In my mind that would be people liking the program and considering it over another DAW.
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Re: The Mac version
2016/10/19 12:54:53
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☄ Helpfulby Sheanes 2016/10/19 15:21:37
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Then I suppose I just wonder what "good response" entails. In my mind that would be people liking the program and considering it over another DAW.
I was vague on purpose 
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Re: The Mac version
2016/10/19 13:57:39
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☄ Helpfulby Sheanes 2016/10/19 15:21:30
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Re: The Mac version
2016/10/19 15:00:04
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Well I guess I'm a musician and not a market analyst for a reason but doing it this way feels like a recipe for failure to me. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think other new(-ish) players on the market arrived with some unique features to distinguish them from the competition (Reaper, Bitwig, StudioOne). They each have a small but loyal following.
Bluntly, to me it doesn't feel like Sonar can really turn heads if you leave out things like ARA and AD. I've seen this a lot first hand when I go to other studios where everyone uses PT (big budget recording), Logic (fellow musicians/producers) or FL (the hip hop/EDM crowd). The only thing that impresses them is Melodyne and the quality of AD. For the rest it's "it looks crappy and I can already do that in Logic/FL/PT".
That said, in a way I hope it is successful because for better or worse somehow Mac gets a lot more respect amongst musicians. I would maybe feel less defensive when I say I use Sonar.
They can't give away AD or Melodyne for free users. They did not develop those products and they have to pay the companies that developed them to include them in the package. One thing I wouldn't take advise on from a typical musician is what computer to buy. I know a lot of musicians, and the minority also really know about recording and computers.
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Re: The Mac version
2016/10/19 15:21:04
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☄ Helpfulby pwalpwal 2016/10/19 15:25:41
I'm gonna post a drunk Youtube video comlaining about the not yet arrived free trial version.
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Re: The Mac version
2016/10/19 15:32:26
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☄ Helpfulby Sheanes 2016/10/19 17:18:20
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I'm gonna post a drunk Youtube video comlaining about the not yet arrived free trial version.
Eggshellint ideal Sheanes.
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Re: The Mac version
2016/10/19 16:15:21
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Well I guess I'm a musician and not a market analyst for a reason but doing it this way feels like a recipe for failure to me. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think other new(-ish) players on the market arrived with some unique features to distinguish them from the competition (Reaper, Bitwig, StudioOne). They each have a small but loyal following.
Bluntly, to me it doesn't feel like Sonar can really turn heads if you leave out things like ARA and AD. I've seen this a lot first hand when I go to other studios where everyone uses PT (big budget recording), Logic (fellow musicians/producers) or FL (the hip hop/EDM crowd). The only thing that impresses them is Melodyne and the quality of AD. For the rest it's "it looks crappy and I can already do that in Logic/FL/PT".
That said, in a way I hope it is successful because for better or worse somehow Mac gets a lot more respect amongst musicians. I would maybe feel less defensive when I say I use Sonar.
They can't give away AD or Melodyne for free users. They did not develop those products and they have to pay the companies that developed them to include them in the package.
One thing I wouldn't take advise on from a typical musician is what computer to buy. I know a lot of musicians, and the minority also really know about recording and computers.
I understand they can't give them away for free, I just think they will have a hard time convincing people to switch to Sonar without them. I don't really understand what the musician/computer advice has to do with anything. Are you implying I don't know anything about computers or something? Even if that were true, what does that have to do with anything?
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Re: The Mac version
2016/10/19 21:37:08
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☄ Helpfulby tlw 2016/10/19 22:18:30
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I understand they can't give them away for free, I just think they will have a hard time convincing people to switch to Sonar without them.
I guess I wasn't clear, so let me emphasize that an alpha version is not designed to convince people to switch to SONAR.
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Re: The Mac version
2016/10/20 02:14:52
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Ok thanks. I do look forward to seeing how this all works out.
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Re: The Mac version
2016/10/20 07:09:05
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(quote) For the rest it's "it looks crappy and I can already do that in Logic/FL/PT".
Logic Pro X is Mac-only daw, which on one hand may seem as advantage, but with Apple spiraling into sh!t recently (no good workstation since release of rubbish bin in 2013, laptops lacking any connectivity etc. etc.) people may be starting to seek for Windows alternatives (although Microsoft is spiraling equally into **** since launch of Windows 10) and other multiplatform DAW solutions for best interoperability,
ProTools are ancient and actually suck (in terms of UI, reliability, workflow efficiency, hardware support), yet plenty of people learned to use them and so obviously use them and will not bother learning anything else unless they'll have serious reason to do so, sorry to say that, but that is the truth,
FL Studio is Windows-only music creation software, although it's possible to run it via crossover wrapper, so it's kinda defeating purpose to use it "together" with high-end daw, native OS(X) version is in works, but it's nowhere polished enough to be used instead of the wrapped Windows version
Sonar has been Windows-only daw for long time, which helped finetune things, but hopefully Cakewalk learned multiplatform software solutions are the future, therefore it really is high time to come up with OS(X) version of Sonar, indeed uneasy to make the decision of public release as buggy unfinished product may do more harm than good at first impression
Reaper and Bitwig are both multiplatform softwares, which gives them serious advantage, while on the other hand gives devs more headaches to deal with, especially when you consider there isn't just one windows, one os(x), one linux, but more than a few variants of each, not exactly same...
me, I'm really looking forward to get my hands on Sonar for Mac, I've set up (El Capitan) hackintosh aside on my Windows 7 PC, so I can do exact direct comparisons, and I'm really curious how much the OS will make difference when using somewhat same daw :)
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Re: The Mac version
2016/10/20 10:12:12
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Well I guess I'm a musician and not a market analyst for a reason but doing it this way feels like a recipe for failure to me. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think other new(-ish) players on the market arrived with some unique features to distinguish them from the competition (Reaper, Bitwig, StudioOne). They each have a small but loyal following.
Bluntly, to me it doesn't feel like Sonar can really turn heads if you leave out things like ARA and AD. I've seen this a lot first hand when I go to other studios where everyone uses PT (big budget recording), Logic (fellow musicians/producers) or FL (the hip hop/EDM crowd). The only thing that impresses them is Melodyne and the quality of AD. For the rest it's "it looks crappy and I can already do that in Logic/FL/PT".
That said, in a way I hope it is successful because for better or worse somehow Mac gets a lot more respect amongst musicians. I would maybe feel less defensive when I say I use Sonar.
They can't give away AD or Melodyne for free users. They did not develop those products and they have to pay the companies that developed them to include them in the package.
One thing I wouldn't take advise on from a typical musician is what computer to buy. I know a lot of musicians, and the minority also really know about recording and computers.
I understand they can't give them away for free, I just think they will have a hard time convincing people to switch to Sonar without them.
I don't really understand what the musician/computer advice has to do with anything. Are you implying I don't know anything about computers or something? Even if that were true, what does that have to do with anything?
It isn't always about switching, new customers are a major consideration. And even if Logic ran on Windows, I personally prefer Sonar. Regarding my Musicians and Computer comment, you said " for better or worse somehow Mac gets a lot more respect amongst musicians" Thus you are making a statement about Musicians and their view + preferences as it relates to computers. I'm suggesting your average musician isn't very knowledgeable at all about such things. One could say the same thing about people like myself that also do video production or work with photos at a higher than average level. Macs are "respected" in these areas yet they have less processing power, graphic, memory capabilities, and are less configurable using the exact same Adobe programs....and cost more.
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Re: The Mac version
2016/10/20 10:51:08
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Right, sorry I follow you now and we are in complete agreement, which is why I use a home built desktop and a Clevo laptop with Sonar and watch my friends muddle along with their infallible Macs (until they ask me to help out because their screen broke or their OS upgrade killed their favorite software). However, it seems "we" don't get any points for being right. Virtually every musician I know is using Mac, in my view BECAUSE every musician is using Mac. It's gotten to the point where you're not really taken seriously as a musician if you're on PC.
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Re: The Mac version
2016/10/21 02:52:29
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"It's gotten to the point where you're not really taken seriously as a musician if you're on PC."
what's even more disturbing is that nowadays you're not really taken seriously as a musician if you're playing real instrument :P :D
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Re: The Mac version
2016/10/21 07:10:58
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You dont need osx . Sonar runs on windows
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