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Re:The Most Realistic Sounding Electric Guitar Sample Library to Date... 2010/05/13 13:08:19 (permalink)
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Maybe I'm dreaming but I thought I saw a 99 dollars price quoted .....over on KVR?
Okay, here's the early announcement regarding the price. You saw it here first. ;)

The list price is actually $199. , I'm going to be announcing a sale in the next few days (along with the official product announcement) which should put it in the $99 price range. You'll see--I think you'll be very happy with what I'm about to announce.

Kind regards,

Greg

 thank you Greg, I am assuming it will be electronic delivery??? I ready..





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Re:The Most Realistic Sounding Electric Guitar Sample Library to Date... 2010/05/13 13:22:04 (permalink)
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So, let's hear a Evolution Guitar Jazz demo like the Electri6ity one posted above. What, no Jazz guitar included yet? So let's hear a Rickenbacker Not included yet? What about a Tele? No?


Evolution Electric Guitar - Strawberry is the first product in an upcoming series of electric and acoustic guitars. I wanted to focus on a single guitar at a time--this way I can concentrate on making the sample libraries as exact replicas to the real instruments as possible. I'm really looking forward to working on upcoming libraries, because I have a lot of high-quality electric and acoustic guitars just waiting to be sampled.

As for the jazz demo, I'd love to write one... or five. I've been holding out, I actually have a degree in jazz performance, but because a majority of my customers compose rock/metal, I wanted to create demos for them first. That's not to say Evolution Electric Guitar is not capable of playing other types of music. Besides rock and metal user demos, some people have even sent me spaghetti western, ethnic, and even Hawaiian music demos. Yes, Hawaiian music. :)


Also Electri6ity comes with a Kontakt Player license (which allows you to upgrade to a full Kontakt version). So you don't need to have the full version of Kontakt. You should have mention that as well. Not everyone has Kontakt (399$) which is required to run the current Orange Tree libraries.


I polled customers and non-customers and actually discovered that KONTAKT is pretty much the top sampler out there. In fact, I've had people request that if I license the Player, I make a non-Player available also, due to the expense of licensing the Player which is reflected in the product's own price.

And as I said, it would be much fairer to compare user demos. Otherwise we don't compare libraries here, we compare the demo writing/mixing/producing skills of the developer. And here Greg clearly blows me out of the water.


Orange Tree Samples libraries have been used in a variety of media. For example I have audio samples of it used in TV shows, commercials, video games, etc. Honestly, I've been sent some pretty impressive songs, and I always love it when customers send me their music! With permission, I have posted a few songs on the Orange Tree Samples forum, but obviously I don't have the rights to post all the songs.

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Re:The Most Realistic Sounding Electric Guitar Sample Library to Date... 2010/05/13 13:24:05 (permalink)
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thank you Greg, I am assuming it will be electronic delivery??? I ready..


Yup, it'll be instantly downloadable.

By the way, nice signature. :)

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Re:The Most Realistic Sounding Electric Guitar Sample Library to Date... 2010/05/13 13:34:15 (permalink)
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gregjazz 


Maybe I'm dreaming but I thought I saw a 99 dollars price quoted .....over on KVR?
Okay, here's the early announcement regarding the price. You saw it here first. ;)

The list price is actually $199. , I'm going to be announcing a sale in the next few days (along with the official product announcement) which should put it in the $99 price range. You'll see--I think you'll be very happy with what I'm about to announce.

Kind regards,

Greg

thank you Greg, I am assuming it will be electronic delivery??? I ready..

Yep, that's the price, $199 list. I knew it, I just didn't have the okay to share it. 

- Peter 

[Edit: I started making this post before Greg, the dev from Orange Tree Samples, made his posts. He was just a lot quicker to the draw!]


post edited by edrummist - 2010/05/13 13:40:42
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Re:The Most Realistic Sounding Electric Guitar Sample Library to Date... 2010/05/14 07:39:57 (permalink)

Orange Tree Samples has released more information on Evolution Electric Guitar:  http://www.orangetreesamples.com/evolution-electric-guitar
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Re:The Most Realistic Sounding Electric Guitar Sample Library to Date... 2010/05/14 22:55:05 (permalink)
Thanks Greg and Edrummist for your responses.  I do like the way the articulations' triggering can be customized.  I appreciate anything that makes things flow better like that.  This goes a long way toward addressing (for non-guitarists), as Monkey23 said earlier in this thread, the "where, when and how" of using articulations...  ...or at least the "how".
 
As to the "where and when", that's where I'm afraid this non-guitarist still has some difficulty.  On a certain level, I can look at a big ol' folder full of articulations and say 'Wow, I've got every scrape, squeak and squeal I'll ever need; and now, thanks to Orange Tree Samples, I know how to insert them when I want to, quickly and easily".  The problem, at least for me, is that I still need to see/hear examples of where and when it would make sense to use them, musically.
 
For instance, at the Lyrical Distortion site right now, there are two videos by Theodor Krueger, showing how he creates guitar parts.  Let me tell you, I learned so much just watching him construct a short guitar performance, with picked strings, muted strings, hammer-ons, pitch bends, etc.  It's like how "A picture's worth a thousand words" - Well, a video is worth several thousand pictures! (and at least fifty user manuals)(IMO).
 
Heck, I'd be happy just having the resulting MIDI files he was creating in those tutorials, to learn from.  [Btw, I saw where, on the KVR thread for Evolution Electric Guitar, the discussion briefly turned to whether video tutorials or MIDI files would be better, in terms of helping folks get up to speed with the product.  Hey, I say why not BOTH?]
 
Anyway, I mean, just seeing how Krueger tweaked the velocities here and there, in order to give his guitar phrase a certain legato/non-legato variety and rhythm (and being able to then see/hear the difference immediately thereafter, as he played it back), got me so enthused that I think I'm going to now get in on this LD group buy sometime tonight or tomorrow.  No joke.  The mere viewing of those two short videos has made me feel confident enough to plunk down good money on a product I wouldn't have otherwise.  (Even better would be if they put up a short clip for each of the remaining 42 or so articulations that come with their product.  Wouldn't take long.  They could do all of the vids in a single afternoon, yet they'd be helping tons of people figure out where best to put, say, a "Power Palm Hammer-On", or a "5 Fret Slide Up Vibrato"...  I mean, if I can't hear such a thing in an actual song/phrase context, I'll typically just zone out, glaze over, close the articulations folder, and start to slightly resent the developer.)
 
Anyway, just wanted to take another opportunity to let you devs (and dev advisors) know about something that I - a non-guitarist - value in a sample library and the outfit that produces it:  I seem to need not only to hear articulations in isolation (where of course they always sound great) - but also to hear them in the context of a real musical phrase/performance (in this case, a guitar phrase), and, if possible, see that phrase being constructed in PRV - if only for a snippet of video, or in a MIDI/project file...
 
I'm definitely looking forward to the release of Evolution at the end of the month.  In the meantime, (need I say?), KEEP THOSE VIDEO TUTORIALS COMING. :)
 
Thanks for reading.
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Re:The Most Realistic Sounding Electric Guitar Sample Library to Date... 2010/05/14 23:53:48 (permalink)
Hi Huffy,

Wow, well put!! I think you described an issue MANY sample library users encounter.

Video demonstrations and tutorials are high on my list of priorities. You're right, any more people would rather watch the product being used (especially in lieu of a playable demo) than see screenshots or listen to demos.

Manuals are nice if you have a specific question about something, but if you're looking for a comprehensive overview of a product, I would agree that videos are a lot nicer--not to mention they're a lot more easily understandable than reading a manual.

Thanks so much for your comments, and I really appreciate the suggestions!

Kind regards,

Greg

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