"The Moth" - a recent collab

"The Moth" - a recent collab

wav:
https://app.box.com/s/joj58zu4rg1ci8d8lkt4
mp3:
https://app.box.com/s/6o5zee22iz62olyzos59
you should be able to download or stream either one...

this is an Aimee Mann song, that my friend Jim (who has never recorded, or been recorded before) wanted to do. this was a one afternoon kind of session, first takes, very quick and down and dirty.
i produced it, and played (2) electric guitar tracks on top of his (3) acoustic tracks and vocals.

he really enjoyed it, i think i might have provided him with enough care to want to put a small recording rig together and start writing songs.
any comments on the mix are appreciated.

Good cover. Love Aimee Mann. Your friend has a good voice, he should do more.

This doesn't sound thrown together to me at all. A very nicely done kind of thing. It isn't all Bat but I can still hear your vibe in it. Great arrangement. If it were me( and it isn't) I would add more space to the vocals...not in terms of reverb, but in terms of stereoscopic effect...like a small delay between sides or a "Beatleish" kind of thing. You could even play with eq between sides to get more of a difference...the kind of thing that plays tricks with your head....just a thought. Great collaboration there Bat!

jamesg1213
Good cover. Love Aimee Mann. Your friend has a good voice, he should do more.

yeah, i'm trying to lure him to the dark side (of recording)
LOL
 
 

So many options....it's a nice problem to have, no?
 
Love Aimee's stuff and you guys did it justice.
 
Regards,
Dan
 

the wildman
Your pal should get into this more, he's good.
Takes you straight back to circa 1966.
Nice job.

thanks wildman...
i guess the '66 callout is kinda similar to some of the older folk songs, arrangement wise....
 
studio wise, not so much... they used a lot of PLATE back then,
and i don't have any of that on this....
 
i used a regular room reverb, in conjunction with a slap back echo
 
plus, 3 rhythm acoustic guitars playing the same part blended together,
that's not so '60's.......

dcumpian
So many options....it's a nice problem to have, no?
 
Love Aimee's stuff and you guys did it justice.
 
Regards,
Dan
 

thanks dan!
yeah, A mann writes some cool stuff..
some only know here from the first stuff (voices carry era) and some have never even heard that stuff!
 
i guess i favor her more 'folk' stuff, with a modern edge....
 
 

Rimshot
I like the song and the arrangement.  The mix sounds good. It is smooth, no top or bottom heavy, just relaxed. Good job. Needs some drums.

thanks rimshot,
for checking this one out and commenting.....
 
i've got a new mix of this i'm working on....
kept this one....
but thought i'd try a brighter mix, less verb, more mids in the guitars,
just a more modern sound.
 
even tho i like the smooth sound, it's easier to listen to...

daryl1968
definitely worth pursuing IMO - has a great folksy/REM vibe - some straight ahead drums would be great on it

thanks for listening daryl.....
 
i don't think we'll be adding any drums on it,
it works as is......
but you're right,
a straight drum part would totally work....
 
i've even thought of deconstructing it a bit, and adding spacey drums and synth like a Floyd tune,
something like "Dogs"......
if i DO experiment with it, that's probably the direction i'll take it,
cuz my buddy's a big floyd fan,
it would freak him right the PHUCK out to hear it like that....
LOL

evadianepug
Get him on board.  I like this one.

hehe..
yep.
 
i'm gonna re-track some electric, 
maybe add a percussion track...
and maybe some high harmonies on the chorus.....
 

Nicely done you guys. Love this song on the HD Videos in iTunes. I did have to download your version and re-master the sound for a 128kpbs version, for my listening pleasure. I will send you a file if you like Gonzo to see how it turned out. I re-mastered it in Ozone 6 with a custom preset I had created for re-mastering CD's. Worked really great on everything and sounds pretty good if I do say so myself. Still dealing with my cancer problem but seem to be getting better. Great job on Aimee Mann's wonder song The Moth and your friend sang this one very well. Nice one!
 
Peace and Blessings, John

theguitarplayer
Nicely done you guys. Love this song on the HD Videos in iTunes. I did have to download your version and re-master the sound for a 128kpbs version, for my listening pleasure. I will send you a file if you like Gonzo to see how it turned out. I re-mastered it in Ozone 6 with a custom preset I had created for re-mastering CD's. Worked really great on everything and sounds pretty good if I do say so myself. Still dealing with my cancer problem but seem to be getting better. Great job on Aimee Mann's wonder song The Moth and your friend sang this one very well. Nice one!
 
Peace and Blessings, John

thanks for listening john...
and glad you like it!
and feel free to use the file anyway you want,
but....
 
this is already a mastered file,
mastered as hot as it should be.....
i would never suggest mastering a file twice.....
 
normally i master using 24 bit and 44.1khz files, and master to output to redbook standard 16 bit/44.1khz.
my typical mix has a average RMS of about -22, and peaks at about -6,
and usually i bring up the average RMS to about -12, with peaks to -0.3.
 
 
i will then rip a 320kpbs mp3 directly thru wavelab from the 16 bit file (this is as far down the scale of lossy formats that i am willing to go),
and one of the reasons i usually allow downloads from my links,
so that any critical listening can be done at full bandwidth-- i cannot stand mp3 files personally,
and the 128kbps files usually sound horrible to me.