My concern is that we will now have frequent, but half baked, updates that used to be free. I think it's 100% for the benefit of Cakewalk and not for the user base. Nothing  will ever have to be working well and we'll all be hoping the current build, or next months' build will fix the problem. A feature could be announced and then take 2 years before it's actually ready for prime time.
 
I'm buying and trying the new paradigm. Time will tell if I was a visionary or simply paranoid. 

bapu

ampfixer
My concern is that we will now have frequent, but half baked, updates that used to be free. I think it's 100% for the benefit of Cakewalk and not for the user base. Nothing  will ever have to be working well and we'll all be hoping the current build, or next months' build will fix the problem. A feature could be announced and then take 2 years before it's actually ready for prime time.
 
I'm buying and trying the new paradigm. Time will tell if I was a visionary or simply paranoid. 

I believe it was quoted by a Baker (Noel?) that you could roll back via the Command Center thingy.
 
So build 913 is good (and your membership allows the install). 914 is wonky. They say you can go back to 913.
 
I'll assume that if 914 915 and 916 are also wonky you can still go back to 913.

But wait,, they wont be wonky because now, with the new model, CW is not pressured to put out the updates,
they will be tested, rock solid and debugged.
 
Also whats the benefit of having up to the minute  updates if they are terrible and you have to roll back?

MM100,
 
My example was not meant to mean that things are wonky and will be wonky, just IF they got wonky.
 
The IF is the nature (sometimes) of software development. Bug do get through even after testing.
 
Here's a more real world example. 
 
You install 913. 914 changes audiosnap. But you have problems in PRV. Maybe you want to roll back to see if 913 worked OK. if it did you can now do due diligence to report to CW that 914 "appears" to have broken PRV. And you can go back to 913 (assuming you're not already dying on the vine from audiosnap in 913)
 
Any Beeps said it best: It's a trust issue. If you don't trust Cake then this won't work for ya.
 

IDK but it seems that there might only be .0002% of the users that may actually roll back for more than a day or two.
 
And only then to verify that what they see today was not "what was" sometime prior to today.
 
To day, I've never uninstalled a patch/update. I wonder how many have on purpose.

ampfixer
 
 I'm also really confused when Craig says that development time will be enhanced by the new billing scheme. Makes no sense.

THIS

So if Sonar was on a Mac where you pay $199 for a version of Logic that gets maintained during it's life cycle and then you pay another $199 for the next version (IF the advertised new features seem worthwhile to you), then why would I choose this ongoing $199 per annum model where you'll get some promises of what might be implemented in the current subscription year instead?
 
If those that are saying this model is pretty much like the old model because you get to keep what you've paid for during the year you stumped up for then which band of users elected to change to this newer model because it suited them better and why if it indeed looked like it would suit them better what advantages did they foresee?
 
Now with a membership scheme in place will there be a price break if I decide not to keep buying the same bundled content that came with v8.5 year on year, e.g. if I don't need to re-buy licenses for the, Sonitus Suite, Dim Pro or Rapture etc, etc, etc or all the bundled 3rd party products I'd never want nor use would I get a reduction in my membership dues?  Flexibility there would actually be a tangible benefit of a membership scheme whereby member prices could be offered on 3rd party products rather than the traditional 'bundles' ungraciously dumped together to appear like a value-add to each package.
 
Lastly when did it ever cost $199 to buy an upgrade between two consecutive Sonar Platinum (nee Producer) versions even given that the release cycle has generally been longer than a year?
 
Yet what is more curious I'm witnessing the spectre of plenty of eager people queuing up to swallow the full yard of this and I'm baffled.
 
Hopefully the increased revenue stream will result in a much better product so can someone hit me up when Sonar is having a 'vintage year' that will actually be worth double the price I've regularly been offered by the Bakers over the last few years.

hehe.  bapu said "wonky"
 
hehe
 
hehe
 

craigb

musicman100

bapu
I also imagine it won't be on sale before then.
(I've been wrong before though)
 

the article upstairs mentions January 15

What year though?

 
SONAR Platinum, part of the newest SONAR lineup, will be released on January 21st, but you can go ahead and order your upgrade from Sweetwater today with the benefit of a myriad of payment options, and we'll deliver your download code to you on release day, complete with Sweetwater's stellar after-the-sale support.

Aye matee!!!
 
Which one of yer lily livered, yellow bellied, bow legged varmints buying this?

bapu
Now MM100 says Jan 21 when before he said Jan 15. Do I hear NAMM 2015? Oh wait, that's Jan 22.

I said neither, I was quoting  the bakers(15) and Sweetwater(21)...
 
don't shoot the messenger 

bapu

musicman100

bapu
Now MM100 says Jan 21 when before he said Jan 15. Do I hear NAMM 2015? Oh wait, that's Jan 22.

I said neither, I was quoting  the bakers(15) and Sweetwater(21)...
 
don't shoot the messenger 

I doan own a gun and never will. I woan be shootin' no juan.

ewe want to borrow one of mine??

I think it depends on whether or not the messenger is the Sheriff. 

UbiquitousBubba
I think it depends on whether or not the messenger is the Sheriff. 

Uhh Bubba, the song lyrics wordplay is that other thread...

bapu
Choot halligators to make Halligator choose?

Aiyye Baaaapi......ju no like to go chopping?

Mesh

bapu
Choot halligators to make Halligator choose?

Aiyye Baaaapi......ju no like to go chopping?

WallyMart Chopping iz phun.