The Sadness of the Beauty Queen

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2012/11/03 00:25:06 (permalink)

The Sadness of the Beauty Queen

I just about finished the mix and then redid this in X2.  A reel rocker.
 
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there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.
24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.
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    Guitarhacker
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    Re:The Sadness of the Beauty Queen 2012/11/03 09:14:38 (permalink)
    Had a listen. Levels seemed kinda low. Vocals were hard to hear and understand ...at least to me. 

    I was waiting for some sort of break to a chorus or bridge which never came. A chorus or bridge gives you the opportunity to change the energy and direction for a time in the song. 

    I'd say, unless I'm missing the concept totally of the song, it needs a bit of work. 



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    Re:The Sadness of the Beauty Queen 2012/11/03 12:33:59 (permalink)
    I really like people who think outside the box, and you gave me something that I like very much.  It was arranged in a way that each element of the mix had its own place, which makes the choice of sounds stand out all the more.  I like that it was unpredictable which made me accept the arrangement for what it is.  I suspect that the vocals aren't necessarily the centerpiece of this song, so not understanding the lyrics was less important than the feelings they convey.  The levels were OK here, in fact, I liked the sense of dynamics in this piece.  This song is outside the norm, so whether it's finished or not is entirely up to you.  I like it as is.

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    Re:The Sadness of the Beauty Queen 2012/11/03 13:05:14 (permalink)
     I really enjoy the tune.The vocals so far back I'm not sure about. That's a great voice, sounds a bit like the Eurythmics. Perhaps some panning and volume fluctuations making the vox more up front at times? A really cool concept so far.

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    Re:The Sadness of the Beauty Queen 2012/11/03 14:17:44 (permalink)
    The middle seems to be missing for me, needs a little tweaking as suggested above.

    Thanks for sharing.

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    Re:The Sadness of the Beauty Queen 2012/11/03 18:01:52 (permalink)
    This is really good. I kind of stopped hanging out here for a while because the quality of work was pretty poor. That has really changed. I very much like the vocals back in the mix on this and I expect it accomplishes what you wanted to accomplish. I wont try to put a word on it but I think it is very evocative.

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    Re:The Sadness of the Beauty Queen 2012/11/03 18:47:29 (permalink)
    Thanks all.  I was struggling w/ the vocals vol before the upgrade to X2, then tried to mix it w/ different tools.  Finally got all my old mixing favs up and authorized.  And tracked down a missing reverb on the organ, which smoothed it out some tho it still fights w/ the vocal.  It is only roughly mastered now, which also changed the level relationships.

    The other thing about the vocals is the singer kept (keeps) saving to make it more robotic or mechanical.  I can't just do what I want since she is my better half ;-)

    Anyway, I'll give it another pass (or two!).  Thanks for the listen.

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    there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.
    24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.
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    Re:The Sadness of the Beauty Queen 2012/11/03 19:05:50 (permalink)
    Ok.....I REALLY REALLY REALLY like this concept...I can see a production out of this..

    The levels are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to low....this should sound like a Machine...
    LOUD and heavy and crashing down...

    Vocal should be more out front...WOW...this would make such
    a production ...

    GREAT arrangement....bravo...


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    Re:The Sadness of the Beauty Queen 2012/11/04 15:38:16 (permalink)
    cool.. nice composition with strong rhythm  and interesting soundscape.. sounds nice 


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    Re:The Sadness of the Beauty Queen 2012/11/05 18:37:07 (permalink)
    I agree with some of the comments about the vocal.  It sounds really good but not loud enough, unless it's supposed to be that way.  I would probably like a chorus or break for the reasons Herb said but I imagine someone dancing to this and they don't care as long as the beat is alright.  There's some booty mvin' stuff in here.  :-)

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    Re:The Sadness of the Beauty Queen 2012/11/05 20:36:55 (permalink)
    Thanks Clarry, Makke and Warrren,

    for the listen and comments.  I should be making some changes to the vocal level.  I pushed it up another dB or so but need to sleep on it.

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    24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.
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    Re:The Sadness of the Beauty Queen 2012/11/05 23:13:30 (permalink)
    Could just be my speakers (which I admit aren't grand) but there's screaming whistle that blows my ear drums and I wish I could turn it down... But get a second opinion on that. The song itself is pretty sweet. Vocals could come up, or just more highs in the EQ, but if that changes the sound too much just use volume. I'd second opinion that too... In fact, don't take my word for it at all.
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    Re:The Sadness of the Beauty Queen 2012/11/06 00:10:20 (permalink)
    Chad,

    thanks.  I've got a bit of high end lift, but I have to be careful w/ her voice or the sibilance jumps out.  But yea, I wish it would cut some more.

    The whistle is probably the organ sound.  It really cuts on certain chords.l  On certain systems.

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    there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.
    24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.
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