chuckebaby
 
As I said, I can respect your complaints but these don't make sonar "broken".
 

Well if it did work and was a feature, and then it stopped working, I'd call that broken. Over the years I got used to tapping the timeline with the mouse to audition different sections of the song, and now it it stop-tap-play. Or tap-get irritated-stop-play as it turns out most of the time. *
 
I'm more alarmed by the tendency for melodyne clips to open empty of audio when projects are reloaded. This a serisous bug and has cost me hours of time dealing with. 
 
Oh with the metronome, I meant to say with a metronome count it - the count in triggers the offset bug, because it appears the melodyne clips start playing on the record button click, not the end of the countdown. They are off by exactly the number of specified countdown measure. 
 
 *edit: I just realized that all forms of scrubbing are broken when there are melodyne REs. jump to marker, hardware scrub wheel, drag now time, click in timeline, the fastforward/rewind buttons, keyboard shortcuts for navigation. 
 
*edit 2: and speed comping regular audio and auditioning clip takes, and speed comping melodyne clips. 

The sky will fall in one way for sure (probably sooner than later).
 
You (the generic you, not the OP specifically) will buy a plugin in that you're sure will work in SONAR. It doesn't. You ask the vendor why. He says "SONAR is not supported". End of story. 
 
Now you're really pi$$ed.
 
 

I have tried Studio One before as a demo and I found it to be fluid. I can't wait to get it. I have written a lot of songs on Sonar and the last outing SPLAT (No pun intended) has really been good. Yes it is a little sluggish but when it belongs to you, you can always be fine with it. I am looking forward to getting Studio One 3 I think the thing is awesome. Looks great. I have never used the Matrix and PRV always found fiddly. When I had Cubase I loved working in PRV. However I liked Sonar for it's one screen usage and quite fast. I never liked the metronome. Only can play the instrument (plug in) after the timer starts lol. Working on the fly lol kind of on the fly lol That was a nice non feature. Stopping then starting again. I will miss old Sonar. AGAIN Sonar is like a pet dog you will always love it no matter what. Sad it is all coming to an end. Unless some one saves it's dear little life.

dappa1
Some seem to say one day sonar will stop working. How?
1. you open up Sonar and some one has stolen all the plug ins?
2. You lose all your songs?
3. Wouldn't it be like a modern day Atari. You still can use it but it's dated?
I really like to know how it can just stop working? Windows 10 is the final one!

Sonar can stop working many ways. Most of which are unlikely. But people who make their living as studio producers / audio engineers / musicians cannot take the risk of their livelihood going on hold because something unlikely still happened.
 
The most likely way, and the way that the remaining staff are working, among many other closing up shop duties, to make sure that when the authentication servers eventually go offline (I have no crystal ball to say that is six months or six years or six decades from now - or some other duration) that those still using Sonar will still have use of the software. If for some reason the servers go offline without this fix then the next time Windows updates and you need to reauthorize Sonar, you'll be stuck with a brick instead of a DAW. You may not have noticed Command Center reauthorizing your SONAR package after the most recent huge Windows 10 update because it just did it when you checked for new features or fix packs for SONAR in the 2017-10 release. You could always try turning off Windows 10 updates. Of course, maybe it wasn't doing that (losing authorization after a Windows Update) - I had "Owned" already on my license of SONAR and never saw that happening. Some folks have reported it and I have to take their word for it.

Another of the unlikely ways that SONAR can fail is if something in a Windows 10 update changes a key API that an important, yet older, portion of the application uses to access Windows Operating System functions (like drawing a window for instance, or accessing a MIDI port). I don't remember which Run Time Library SONAR uses - perhaps the 2013 Run Time Library. It is remotely possible that Windows 10 will at some point discontinue support of the 2013 RTL (or whichever one is used). The further into the future we look, the more likely that gets. Windows just collaborated with Intel to certify all new CPUs from Intel will only work with Windows 10 moving forward. At some point Libraries that were intended for Windows 7 (perhaps in year 2020) will be "End Of Life."
 
This is not to say everyone will not be able to use SONAR after that. It depends on their Computers and Operating systems. Windows XP still runs - but if you try to install it, it will provide plenty of errors about being end of life (and probably won't let you register / authorize it). But people that work in Music Studio's need to guarantee they can finish the projects they are working on for their clients, some of which might be multi-year efforts, and so they cannot afford to wait for Cakewalk SONAR to fail and are leading the charge to switch to a new DAW.
 
As a Hobbyist user, I can afford to use SONAR right up until the day it fails for the final time. I would normally probably have upgraded to the next version of SONAR during that time, and the next and the next if it is long enough. I've been using a Cakewalk MIDI package since 1990, and a full DAW version since about 2000. I had expected to continue using Cakewalk, indefinitely - and might just yet.

As for Windows 10 being the final version of Windows - look at their time line for end of support - Windows 10 is scheduled for end of support in 2025. Of course that doesn't mean there won't be Windows after 2025, but just a certain subset of Windows will no longer be supported. Perhaps they'll do like Apple and Name all versions of Windows with an X (Roman Numeral 10, after all) and start giving them version names. So in 2025 they'll release Windows X Winter Wonderland or some other crazy thing (can't use mountain names, Apple does that... LOL).
 

Oh, and I forgot to mention the case of if your computer experiences a catastrophic failure and you have to replace it. That fix for the Authentication servers becomes very important when upgrading to the next computer (maybe the motherboard fails, maybe the CPU fails, maybe the hard drives or other key component and you just have to replace the machine). If Gibson finally turns off the support funding for the servers and skeleton crew support team, getting your copy of SONAR onto a new computer will be very difficult if they were still working on getting the License keys issued to registered owners and had to stop. Hopefully they will be able to finish and get us all taken care of. They are working on that already. If there is something that prevents them from finishing, then that hardware failure is the end of your copy of SONAR. I think this is the scenario that most people dread the worst.

I sadly have a studio 700R and a Studio 700C that I bought just before Roland sold Cakewalk to Gibson...I guess I can say goodby to that equipment. Roland does not support it with Windows 10...I have spent 1000s of dollars upgrading over the years (bought the lifetime upgrade) and decided to stay with Sonar because I liked it and did not want to spend the money in other places. Trying to decide if this is the end of the road for my recording career.

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