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2013/12/19 05:03:35 (permalink)

There is NO lake!

Really.  This is one of the best illusions I've seen in a while.
 


 
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Re: There is NO lake! 2013/12/19 09:17:58 (permalink)
You watched the Matrix again, didn't you?
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Re: There is NO lake! 2013/12/19 13:50:33 (permalink)
I'm just a misbehaving program.

 
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Re: There is NO lake! 2013/12/19 14:58:19 (permalink)
I am assuming we are looking at a mirage.  Yes, the atmosphere really is a lens through which we perceive the world around us, and I don’t mean that metaphorically.  Objects are seen through a medium with a certain refractive index.
 
I was just watching something on the Smithsonian channel about a guy who researches the Titanic disaster.  He postulates that it is atmospheric events (along with speed) that lead up to the ship hitting the iceberg.  According to his hypothesis, there is a warm air mass sitting on top of a cold air mass … essentially, the opposite of what you would observe in the desert (and most likely what you are seeing in the mountain “lake” photo) … giving rise to a kind of mirage.
 
He goes on to hypothesize that the iceberg was hidden from the lookouts on the Titanic because of the differences in refractive indices of the air masses.  Additionally, the passing ship did not identify it as the Titanic because its size is distorted when observing from a distance (an effect arising from the differences in refractive indices of the air masses).

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Re: There is NO lake! 2013/12/19 16:33:40 (permalink)
Who said that there was one ?
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Re: There is NO lake! 2013/12/19 17:33:54 (permalink)
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Who said that there was one ?


Nobody ... I am just guessing ... not sure what I am looking at.  Maybe just deception by the angle of the photo.
 
In any event, the "reverse mirage" (my term) hypothesis to explain why the lookouts don't see a missive iceberg is a really fascinating interpretation of events.
post edited by quantumeffect - 2013/12/19 17:36:26

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Re: There is NO lake! 2013/12/19 17:54:51 (permalink)
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paulo
Who said that there was one ?


Nobody ... I am just guessing ... not sure what I am looking at.  Maybe just deception by the angle of the photo.
 
In any event, the "reverse mirage" (my term) hypothesis to explain why the lookouts don't see a missive iceberg is a really fascinating interpretation of events.




Wasn't arguing or even responding to your post - my comment was in reply to the OP/thread title
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Re: There is NO lake! 2013/12/19 18:06:52 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2013/12/19 21:21:43
Looks like a concrete wall to me.

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Re: There is NO lake! 2013/12/19 19:08:49 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2013/12/19 21:21:52
>...the Titanic disaster.  He postulates that it is atmospheric events (along with speed) that lead up to the ship hitting the iceberg.
 
Or maybe it was just the rudder pointed in the wrong direction??.... 
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Re: There is NO lake! 2013/12/21 10:01:10 (permalink)
There is NO lake!
 
... sayeth the naysayers and disbelievers.
 
The lake is there! If you believe it with every fiber of your being (and maybe a few from someone else's being just in case that's not enough) and hope and pray and do a lake dance (if there is such a dance), it will be there.
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Re: There is NO lake! 2013/12/21 10:46:04 (permalink)
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Looks like a concrete wall to me.

Shhhhh!
 
As for the Titanic..."Once around the wheelhouse"........

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Re: There is NO lake! 2013/12/21 15:54:15 (permalink)
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Looks like a concrete wall to me.


And we have a winner
 
It is good though.

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Re: There is NO lake! 2013/12/21 17:52:00 (permalink)
No flys on my 'ol pal.
 
When he was young he was the kid that yelled "Hey, the King's not wearing any clothes!"

 
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Re: There is NO lake! 2013/12/21 18:48:45 (permalink)
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No flys on my 'ol pal.
 
When he was young he was the kid that yelled "Hey, the King's not wearing any clothes!"


 
Indeed yes.
 
Sharp as a button that chap.
 
But I was the pedantic one...
 
Still am, if truth be told.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
And it was the "The Emperor's new clothes", not the King's...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: There is NO lake! 2013/12/21 18:55:56 (permalink)


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Re: There is NO lake! 2013/12/21 20:06:45 (permalink)
*Pffft...*
 
Nobody ever called Elvis the Emperor!  

 
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Re: There is NO lake! 2013/12/21 20:32:20 (permalink)
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*Pffft...*
 
Nobody ever called Elvis the Emperor!  




That's because Elvis was only his alter ego... But he really was the emperor:
 

 
BTW, Darth says he finds your lack of lake disturbing.
post edited by Rain - 2013/12/21 20:35:00

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Re: There is NO lake! 2013/12/21 20:37:15 (permalink)
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craigb
*Pffft...*
 
Nobody ever called Elvis the Emperor!  




That's because Elvis was only his alter ego... But he really was the emperor:
 

 
BTW, Darth says he finds your lack of lake disturbing.


 
Of all the things that Darth Vader lost when the Death Star blew up, it was the destruction of his George Michael box set that affected him most deeply...


He finds his lack of Faith disturbing.

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Re: There is NO lake! 2013/12/21 20:42:43 (permalink)
 
Coincidentally....
 
I've just tried buying tickets for an Elvis tribute act.
 
The whole process was a complete nightmare, having to navigate an automated telephone system.
 
I had to press 1 for the money...2 for the show...

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Re: There is NO lake! 2013/12/21 21:18:59 (permalink)
Actually it was usually my grandpa, Jim that had...as per usual...removed his pants and was dancing wildly...yet inappropriately...on the front porch for all the world to behold. I miss him.

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Re: There is NO lake! 2013/12/21 21:19:05 (permalink)


 
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Re: There is NO lake! 2013/12/22 16:29:49 (permalink)
 
My pet mouse Elvis has just died....
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
He was caught in a trap.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: There is NO lake! 2013/12/22 16:31:26 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Shambler 2013/12/23 20:28:14
This would be a good time to say my "I went to Graceland to see Elvis once, but they wouldn't let me in with my shovel" joke, but I've already posted it too many times so I won't.
 

 
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Re: There is NO lake! 2013/12/22 17:14:03 (permalink)
That's too bad - I would have loved to hear that one.
I've heard it's a really good joke.

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Re: There is NO lake! 2013/12/23 02:31:28 (permalink)
Here is the Smithsonian Titanic thing:
 
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Did-the-Titanic-Sink-Because-of-an-Optical-Illusion.html?c=y&page=1&navigation=previous#IMAGES
 
post edited by quantumeffect - 2013/12/23 02:33:13

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Re: There is NO lake! 2013/12/23 08:17:32 (permalink)
Hi,
 
I would say that picture is not quite accurate, but a bit old.
 
It looks like Lake Cachuma, right behind Santa Barbara in the old days, when it ACTUALLY HAD some water in it. The last time I drove by there some 5 or 6 years ago, it was over 20ft low and it was one of the saddest things I have ever seen. You could just about feel for the vegetation and the livelihood of the whole area getting raped silly.
 
So if the lake is not there? Chalk it up to development and greed!

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Re: There is NO lake! 2013/12/23 12:44:36 (permalink)
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Hi,
 
I would say that picture is not quite accurate, but a bit old.
 
It looks like Lake Cachuma, right behind Santa Barbara in the old days, when it ACTUALLY HAD some water in it. The last time I drove by there some 5 or 6 years ago, it was over 20ft low and it was one of the saddest things I have ever seen. You could just about feel for the vegetation and the livelihood of the whole area getting raped silly.
 
So if the lake is not there? Chalk it up to development and greed!



Hi,
 
What?
 
(Please refer to Yorolpal's reply which is #8.)

 
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Re: There is NO lake! 2013/12/23 18:16:51 (permalink)
Just let him believe... why spoil the illusion.
 
(see what i did there?)
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Re: There is NO lake! 2013/12/23 18:36:42 (permalink)
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Just let him believe... why spoil the illusion.
 
(see what i did there?)



Good point.  Why treat this thread any different than the others Mosh contributes to?  

 
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Re: There is NO lake! 2013/12/23 18:54:14 (permalink)
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Looks like a concrete wall to me.

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