There must be a faster way . . . . . . Cutting and pasting clips

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2010/11/29 20:19:39 (permalink)

There must be a faster way . . . . . . Cutting and pasting clips

There must be a faster way . . . . . . Cutting and pasting clips 
 
I know I’m doing this the hard way . . . . . maybe someone can spell it out for me. 
  
After drum and bass guitar tracks have been recorded I record the guitar track approximately five different times in five different tracks.  I then cut and paste clips from the five separate guitar tracks into one track that eventually becomes the guitar track.  When cutting and pasting clips from the five recorded guitar tracks I expand the wave file out, hold the Alt key down and drag to select only the portion of the clip that I want to move to the one track that eventually becomes the guitar track.  Sometimes I expand the wave file out and write down on a piece of paper the beginning and ending “now times” so that I can select specific portions.  I then paste the copied clip indicating the specific “now time” starting point in the one track that eventually becomes the guitar track.  After all the cutting and pasting I edit / bounce to clip so that the entire track is one clip and not a bunch of pasted clips. 
  
Can someone help me cut to the chase seen?  Maybe someone can link me to the video? 
  
Thanks in advance, 
JP
 
post edited by hdrive25 - 2010/11/29 20:22:31
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    Chappel
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    Re:There must be a faster way . . . . . . Cutting and pasting clips 2010/11/29 20:26:10 (permalink)
    I find that when recording multiple takes and combining clips that setting the snap to grid to measure, or other even note subdivisions like half or quarter note, it is very easy to split and move clips around and they always line up exactly where I want them to. Was that helpful? Because I'm not quite sure what the question was.
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    Re:There must be a faster way . . . . . . Cutting and pasting clips 2010/11/29 20:33:16 (permalink)
    What you describe sounds as simple as it should be.  I wish I could see it happen . . . . . . Or maybe I need to find the step by step narrative?
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    Re:There must be a faster way . . . . . . Cutting and pasting clips 2010/11/29 20:51:07 (permalink)
    It is pretty simple. As long as you split a clip exactly on the beat it should be pretty easy to line up with any other clip aligned to a beat. Just split the clip at the beginning of the measure before the audio is recorded. For example, if the audio starts in the middle of measure 19, split the clip at the beginning of measure 19. 19:01:000. When you move a clip around make sure the snap to grid is enabled and set to an easy to find note subdivision (whole note, half note, quarter note). I like to set the snap to grip to Measure, unless I have a reason not to. It sure makes things simple when I go flinging clips around.

    As with most things, there is more than one way to do this sort of thing. This is how I, generally, do it.

    You could also try using track layers. Some people are very happy with the results they get using them. They are certainly handy for recording the same part over and over and then picking out the takes they want to keep.
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    Re:There must be a faster way . . . . . . Cutting and pasting clips 2010/11/29 20:59:38 (permalink)
    I'm not sure I understand the question either.

    I forget if these are standard Cakewalk commands or if these are my personal key bindings, but the method would be the same:

    I use 'S' to split clips and 'Q' to mute clips.  So I would consider just splitting the clips where you want to split them and then mute the parts you're not using.  No real reason to move any tracks, you can have your finished guitar track stretch over 5 tracks, but once you're done I can think of 4 or 5 different methods of combining the 5 tracks back into 1 track.
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    Re:There must be a faster way . . . . . . Cutting and pasting clips 2010/11/30 04:59:28 (permalink)
    I'd suggest the OP reads up on using Track Layers. This way you don't end up with 5 separate tracks, but 5 layers contained within one track. There are dedicated tools for cutting, muting, pasting etc.

    I know a lot of people who swear by using layers and using them effectively can really speed up your workflow.

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    Re:There must be a faster way . . . . . . Cutting and pasting clips 2010/11/30 06:16:23 (permalink)
    I think I may have found it! 

    It's called "Comping Layers"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzmIjquQc7c&playnext=1&list=PL27D2AB7B45686037&index=41

    I wish there was a slower step by step video now.  Having the ability to pick now time points in various layers then have them merge into one track will save me many hours!

    Where can I find the detail step by step narartive?

    Searching,
    JP
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    Re:There must be a faster way . . . . . . Cutting and pasting clips 2010/11/30 08:46:29 (permalink)
    Try the 1500+ page Sonar reference guide.

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    Re:There must be a faster way . . . . . . Cutting and pasting clips 2010/11/30 18:10:19 (permalink)
    sonar is a non destructive editor is that each clip can be rolled up and moved without losing teh data recorded  Like recording to sperate take in seperate tracks  just remember c and k turn teh clip and mute function on and off on a toggle. then if you hold the shift down you can move the clips form track to track without nudging right or left.  insertinf alyer first give you a place to put the comped track together and then once trimmed you can bounce to a clip or a seperate track.
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    Re:There must be a faster way . . . . . . Cutting and pasting clips 2010/11/30 19:38:52 (permalink)
    Read this thread, it might help..
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2140054


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    Re:There must be a faster way . . . . . . Cutting and pasting clips 2011/05/01 06:56:07 (permalink)
    Answer to original question . . . . . .

    SHIFT DRAG CLIP
    SHIFT DRAG CLIP
    SHIFT DRAG CLIP
    SHIFT DRAG CLIP

    Does not allow the clip to move horizontally!!!
    Wish I knew this months ago!!!
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