Guitarhacker
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They should retire.....
While flipping through the channels last night... (New Years Eve) .... there were new year count down shows on a variety of channels from the mainstream guys... ABC, CBS, NBC, plus a number of public broadcast and cable channels had things going on.
I was also monitoring the comments from the FaceBook feed....
Some of the acts I saw, and read about were horrible. One channel had Jefferson Airplane, another had Kris Kristofferson, another had Bonnie Raitt (for the record, Bonnie wasn't bad... but some of the others on the stage..... oh my!) and an odd assortment of players, and I saw something about one of the Diva singers.... Marriah somebody...... "like nails on a chalkboard" was the comment.
I can only speak for the ones I saw, but these folks need to retire and let us remember them best by the really great music they put on records and tapes for us decades ago. Why get on stage now and embarrass yourselves and leave us with the memory of how totally unprofessional and amateurish you sound? I get it, old rockers never die, and you might need the money and want one more shot at that big stage...... but seriously, it's time to retire.
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Re: They should retire.....
2017/01/01 10:00:19
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2017/01/01 11:16:38
Something I've often wondered about with regards to Ian Anderson.
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Re: They should retire.....
2017/01/01 11:29:01
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Did they reanimate Dick Clark yet? 
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Re: They should retire.....
2017/01/01 12:22:45
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Something I've often wondered about with regards to Ian Anderson.
I think he should do a concert for flute, and not have to use his voice?
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Re: They should retire.....
2017/01/01 12:38:58
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jamesg1213
Something I've often wondered about with regards to Ian Anderson.
I think he should do a concert for flute, and not have to use his voice?
He's used an actor/singer on stage lately to sing the bits that he can't do..which is most of it really. It's a sad sight watching him straining to hit the notes.
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Re: They should retire.....
2017/01/02 08:01:37
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I felt that way the last time I saw Bryan Ferry, and I'm a huge fan.
I won't see him again.
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Re: They should retire.....
2017/01/02 10:54:36
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If Ian Anderson does NY Eve on the telly, they'll make him do flute lip sync - I'm not sure the world is ready for that.
Slugbaby saw Bryan Ferry? I'm jealous! I think I saw Roxy Music back in the early '80's. The operative word there is "think."
And as the latest Star Wars movie proved via the late Peter Cushing, we are not far off from "Dick Clark's Eternal Rockin' New Year's Eve" which I personally am ready for. Co-starring Pitbull.
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Re: They should retire.....
2017/01/02 13:24:50
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I remember when I was in Sarasota, Fl that Dick Clark was looking at a big parcel of land on south tamiami trail in order to create a retirement community for celebrities. I thought it was such a funny concept! What would the deed restrictions look like?! HAHA Cher living next to Don Rickles *Don can I borrow a cup of sugar?*
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Re: They should retire.....
2017/01/02 13:47:26
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I remember when I was in Sarasota, Fl that Dick Clark was looking at a big parcel of land on south tamiami trail in order to create a retirement community for celebrities. I thought it was such a funny concept! What would the deed restrictions look like?! HAHA Cher living next to Don Rickles *Don can I borrow a cup of sugar?*
While The Stones (who live next to Rickles) break into Brown Sugar at "band rehearsal" in their garage?
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Re: They should retire.....
2017/01/02 16:27:25
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One channel had Jefferson Airplane,
Airplane? Vintage footage? We saw the current, well almost current, Jefferson Starship in a small club three years in a row before Paul Kantner died and they were seriously good. Starship was very much Kantner's band of course and he did know how to put a band together. Guitarhacker
I get it, old rockers never die, and you might need the money and want one more shot at that big stage...... but seriously, it's time to retire.
Quite a lot of musicians who were playing huge venues not too long ago have gone back to playing small clubs as they get older. I seriously doubt that many of them are doing it because they need the money. In some cases they may be past it and just after the "live" ego boost regardless but in many cases I suspect they're doing it because they enjoy it. As for those who are past it, Chuck Berry should have retired a long time ago. About a day before recording "My Dingaling" would have been good. Saw him in the 80s and he was really dreadful.
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Re: They should retire.....
2017/01/02 17:26:39
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I think Justin Bieber's had a good run
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Re: They should retire.....
2017/01/02 18:02:23
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Did they reanimate Dick Clark yet?
Can they do that yet? ... even just his head would be sufficient.
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Re: They should retire.....
2017/01/02 18:58:07
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☄ Helpfulby craigb 2017/01/02 22:55:39
Over the hill performers are a modern tradition. We can speculate ad nauseum about why someone who presumably still has his hearing and access to his decades old recordings would humiliate himself publically. I am more sympathetic to the possibility that after buying too many mansions and bad investment advice early in his career, he finds himself facing decrepitude and dementia without the wherewithal to survive, than to the interpretation that he is sucking on the teat of self-delusion to recapture the ego-boost that sustained him through a vanished youth.
What is clearly making these large scale debacles possible, however, is the soft-headedness of their aging fans. Clearly parading these mummified remains of former stars satisfies some marketable nostalgic delusion among those of us in the Viagra generation dreaming that a joint and a wrinkled hippy chick and a listen to an old fart croaking out an anthem of our youth can bring us back to life as well. Young people who find some of their early work truly valuable, and much of it is, can listen to a digital download. It is the old, and the denial of our own reality, that fuels the antique roadshow of decrepit performers and the young charlatans who pretend to be the old bands.
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Re: They should retire.....
2017/01/02 20:02:20
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Maybe it is best to be a 'crooner'. Recently they had on TV Tony Bennett's 90th birthday celebration. He is one of the last older generation singers left. There were great performances by current generations artists saluting him. He ended the show by singing a few songs solo. Wow. He still has it. His music is not necessarily my musical cup-o' tea, but I have to appreciate a guy that has lasted all these years and still is a pleasure to watch perform. Frank Sinatra still could wow his audience in his later years. Their styles afforded long survival. Real class acts.
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Re: They should retire.....
2017/01/02 20:16:44
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Over the hill performers are a modern tradition. We can speculate ad nauseum about why someone who presumably still has his hearing and access to his decades old recordings would humiliate himself publically. I am more sympathetic to the possibility that after buying too many mansions and bad investment advice early in his career, he finds himself facing decrepitude and dementia without the wherewithal to survive, than to the interpretation that he is sucking on the teat of self-delusion to recapture the ego-boost that sustained him through a vanished youth.
What is clearly making these large scale debacles possible, however, is the soft-headedness of their aging fans. Clearly parading these mummified remains of former stars satisfies some marketable nostalgic delusion among those of us in the Viagra generation dreaming that a joint and a wrinkled hippy chick and a listen to an old fart croaking out an anthem of our youth can bring us back to life as well. Young people who find some of their early work truly valuable, and much of it is, can listen to a digital download. It is the old, and the denial of our own reality, that fuels the antique roadshow of decrepit performers and the young charlatans who pretend to be the old bands.
I'm glad the baby boomer's are nostalgic and that the baby boomer musicians are reanimating their careers. The international market is big enough for everyone. But I agree that there's a difference between the hype (expectations) and the reality. As a musician, you see that what they're doing isn't really all that great, but music consumers as always have been attracted to extra-musical attributes. I'll bet any of those pop and rock people could start a cult and they'd have many, many followers.
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Re: They should retire.....
2017/01/02 21:09:23
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sucking on the teat of self-delusion
I often suck the teat of self-delusion.
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Re: They should retire.....
2017/01/03 08:25:38
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Some of the artists and bands are legends and as such, who's going to tell them 'No" who wants to keep their job?
So we suffer through the performance, and let life roll on.
Regarding the Airplane's performance. It wasn't horrible..... the singer wasn't Grace, and the band sounded like a night club act doing a cover song.
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Re: They should retire.....
2017/01/03 08:43:00
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Slugbaby saw Bryan Ferry? I'm jealous! I think I saw Roxy Music back in the early '80's. The operative word there is "think."
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I've seen every Toronto show he's done since 1988, and have his portrait tattooed on my arm (along with DBowie & KRichards). Pretty obsessive fan... It was just sad that last time we could hear his voice failing. His backup singers used to soar, now they sing what he sings, to give it presence. Guitarhacker
Some of the artists and bands are legends and as such, who's going to tell them 'No" who wants to keep their job?
So we suffer through the performance, and let life roll on.
That brings up an interesting point for a scenario that has only been relevant for the last decade or so. If The Stones, McCartney, Airplane, etc, still want to play, who are we to tell them to stop because they're "past it?" They're still drawing a crowd and having fun. When I become old and irrelevant, I hope nobody shoves me back into the shadows.
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Re: They should retire.....
2017/01/03 09:34:36
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Ferry came through the Portland area a couple of years ago. Now if he played with Knopfler (who contributed some tasty stuff to his solo efforts), that would be something! 
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Re: They should retire.....
2017/01/03 10:21:20
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craigb
Ferry came through the Portland area a couple of years ago. Now if he played with Knopfler (who contributed some tasty stuff to his solo efforts), that would be something!
I take it back - I'd DEFINITELY see him if he toured with Knopfler (or David Gilmour, who has also been a long-term studio player for him).
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