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Things that I've learned last night...
My wife was invited to sing at a Prince tribute concert, and I was in the VIP room, trying to watch the show... The band was on stage, playing Nothing Compares to You and the guitarist was playing an incredible solo, building up in intensity and tension. He was just about to peak when I was completely blinded by the flash of an iPhone - two ladies in front of me were having their picture taken together by a friend. I just couldn't believe their sense of timing. Whoever let those idiots in the VIP room... Obviously, one of them subsequently spent quite a bit of time editing the picture and adding filters before posting it to Facebook. Ironically, that's when she was done editing that I recognized a somewhat familiar face that appears regularly in my newsfeed, as the lady in question appears to hang around musicians quite a bit. She's simply not recognizable in person... At one point, I was also asked if I would mind having my picture taken with a lady I didn't know from Adam. I had to ask her friends to repeat the request a few times because it simply did not compute. I politely declined. At some point, worrying that I might be blocking the view of people in the back, I turned my head and looked... Nope. They were having a meal and chatting, a young couple was busy making out - the person who had invited them wasn't onstage at that particular moment, so they didn't care. In fact, the majority of them were guests of guests - even if the artists were allowed to invite their spouse or a friend, some of them obviously felt that the rules didn't apply to them, as per human custom. I also realized in this week that, even if I have a tremendous amont of respect for him, I really don't like Prince much. Most of his songs appeared to me to be little but a simple melody on top of a riff and a groove, going on for 4 or 5 minutes without ever modulating, the simplistic melodies themselves being far from memorable in most cases. The few songs which evolved a bit more seemed pretty mediocre - nothing to write home about. But there are obviously a couple of gems, great pieces of pop music. But that's a handful - and just my opinion. Obviously, when compared to the majority of inane pop stars out there, I guess that Prince does look like some kind of genius. Anyway... I'm much better off at home with my books and cd's, away from people.
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Re: Things that I've learned last night...
2016/05/20 18:29:40
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What are these people you speak of? Are they anything like online collaborators?
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Re: Things that I've learned last night...
2016/05/20 18:54:22
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People? You went out to a PUBLIC place?! What a horrible thought. Did you learn anything? Hmmmmmmmm?
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Re: Things that I've learned last night...
2016/05/20 20:11:49
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☄ Helpfulby BobF 2016/05/20 20:39:24
I learned that I could have stayed home, played with my cats, learned a few more letters of the Hebrew alphabet, read half a book, discovered a Requiem I don't know, written a few pages. But seeing my wife perform is worth more than all of that and certainly worth putting up with humans for a few hours.
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Re: Things that I've learned last night...
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Re: Things that I've learned last night...
2016/05/20 20:23:10
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Rain
 I learned that I could have stayed home, played with my cats, learned a few more letters of the Hebrew alphabet, read half a book, discovered a Requiem I don't know, written a few pages. But seeing my wife perform is worth more than all of that and certainly worth putting up with humans for a few hours.
Seeing SWMBO perform trumps all. Tell her 'Congrats', BTW
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Re: Things that I've learned last night...
2016/05/20 20:27:03
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You have described a few reasons why I retired to the comfort of my own studio.
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Re: Things that I've learned last night...
2016/05/20 20:46:46
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Next time, see if you can trade your VIP pass for a regular seat out front in the audience. I'm guessing the paying public weren't taking selfies or making out during the show. On an unrelated tangent, I was reading today about the problem with squatters taking over unoccupied homes in Las Vegas. We're talking thousands of people. Kids looking for a party house, meth makers, prostitution rings, chop shops, all kinds of shady characters. One lady, when confronted by the cops, produced a lease agreement - said she met the landlord every month at a casino to make her rent payment. Dude, you need to find a better neighborhood. Not mine, of course. People steal your sh*t here.
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Re: Things that I've learned last night...
2016/05/20 21:01:33
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Re: Things that I've learned last night...
2016/05/20 21:38:21
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bitflipper Next time, see if you can trade your VIP pass for a regular seat out front in the audience. I'm guessing the paying public weren't taking selfies or making out during the show. On an unrelated tangent, I was reading today about the problem with squatters taking over unoccupied homes in Las Vegas. We're talking thousands of people. Kids looking for a party house, meth makers, prostitution rings, chop shops, all kinds of shady characters. One lady, when confronted by the cops, produced a lease agreement - said she met the landlord every month at a casino to make her rent payment. Dude, you need to find a better neighborhood. Not mine, of course. People steal your sh*t here.
From what I saw, and judging by my newsfeed today, it's just as bad on the floor. A lot of people don't really go to a show for the music, they go there to be seen and to look like they're living the life on their FB. One can't really complain because, at the end of the day, they buy tickets and fill the place night after night. But it's not about the music. A few months back, we went to see Scott Bradlee's Postmodern Jukebox and I suddenly felt completely out of touch with the whole pop music thing. I can mark that evening as a turning point in my life. They were absolutely great, and they had some incredible singers and musicians, but the whole thing felt tasteless. The crowd was yelling during the numbers, and I suddenly realize that this was like a circus with people performing feats, every done just to impress people rather than because it made sense. It almost felt like one of those comedy shows where they tell people when to applaud or laugh. Not that it was surprising, there's a whole generation out there's who's being raised watching shows like The Voice and who needs visual cue to let them know that they should be feeling something. Can't really blame them - when every singer is over the top all the time and everything is a big epic chorus... I've heard and read about that too. Fortunately for us, we are in a rather nice/fancy part of Vegas, and there isn't much in terms of vacant properties either. When there was that incident a few weeks ago, one of the cop was telling my wife how nice he thought the neighbourhood was - "we practically never get calls to me here" he told her. At any rate, right now, I can't imagine living anywhere but here in Vegas.
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Re: Things that I've learned last night...
2016/05/20 22:25:57
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That's too bad. I really enjoy watching post-modern jukebox on YouTube. They have some killer vocalists in front of great players.
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Re: Things that I've learned last night...
2016/05/20 22:46:28
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☄ Helpfulby BobF 2016/05/21 09:03:59
ampfixer That's too bad. I really enjoy watching post-modern jukebox on YouTube. They have some killer vocalists in front of great players.
They are very, very good. Things might have been different under other circumstances. I simply reached a point where I overdose'd on pop culture and entertainment - it's not just one thing. There's too much music everywhere, too many covers of the same darn songs, too many remakes of the same darn movies, to many people rebooting the same films, too many people sharing the same junk and quoting the same stuff. You reach a point where you are sick and tired of a song but it's only just beginning because every body wants their turn on it. The whole thing feels like a grade school talent show. It's so saturated that it's just meaningless. I have a hard time believing that people can even get excited about a new Spiderman or Batman movie - and yet every few weeks the craze begins again - even though the sole pretext for the movie seems to be to update the hero's costume, make it less colurfull and more Batman-ish and to play with image treatment and desaturate the whole thing. It's disposable, so I've decided to spare myself the effort of picking up and putting it in the garbage - I just avoid it. I don't need more Star Wars or another version of Adèle's last single.
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Re: Things that I've learned last night...
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Hi there Rain, if you get tired of the bubblegum pop crap like me, then let me turn you on to ambient, drone, new age music. There's a lot of interesting, variety, experimental stuff going on that I think you might actually like some of it. For example, Steve Roach, Michael Sterns, Jeff Pearce, Jeff Oster, etc. Just too many creative artists to name... There's even some really experimental, glitchy type of electronic music, but I really don't care for that..... And of course, this is the type of music I compose is ambient like my last album, Interstellar Love and many others which can be found over at http://darrenrogers.bandcamp.com/ If interested, I can probably pop you a list of other great new age/ambient musicians I think you might like, esp. guitar musicians:)
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Re: Things that I've learned last night...
2016/05/21 01:00:20
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☄ Helpfulby Rain 2016/05/21 02:20:28
Rain He was just about to peak when I was completely blinded by the flash of an iPhone - two ladies in front of me were having their picture taken together by a friend. I just couldn't believe their sense of timing. Whoever let those idiots in the VIP room...
I have a friend who has a wedding photography business. They're having to issue requests to the guests not to take photos on their phones because ceremony shots are being ruined by people whipping out not only iPhones but frigging iPADS as the bride walks down the aisle. You just want to start laying into these people with a cricket bat. Rain I also realized in this week that, even if I have a tremendous amont of respect for him, I really don't like Prince much. Most of his songs appeared to me to be little but a simple melody on top of a riff and a groove, going on for 4 or 5 minutes without ever modulating, the simplistic melodies themselves being far from memorable in most cases. The few songs which evolved a bit more seemed pretty mediocre - nothing to write home about.
I think some artists are more about a groove than anything else. A lot of Talking Heads songs seem to consist of multiple tracks of funky riffs and rhythms played over and over on a loop, that they've brought in and out with the mute button at various times in the track. You have to be in the mood for it I guess.
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Re: Things that I've learned last night...
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☄ Helpfulby BobF 2016/05/21 09:04:36
See? A trip out among the unwashed masses is usually ruined because of the unwashed masses. This is why I'm staying home on a Friday and hanging out with my favorite little buddy Corbin. (Neither of us cares that he belongs to my roommate. LOL!)
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Re: Things that I've learned last night...
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I think this was my 5th time out in 2016. 3 times at Cirque du Soleil, 1 at a goth night because our good friend was DJ'ing and we hadn't seen him in ages, and Prince last night. If not to accompany my wife, I would probably not have went to any of these. Booze is 5 times too expensive, music is 5 times too loud (and I get to really chose neither) and there's at least 50 times as many people as I care to see. Because I have a very low and soft voice, conversation over loud music demands a lot of energy. And I have alienated myself by spending all my free time studying and reading - it just feels awkward to try and make small talk. I just spend hours wishing I was here with a good bottle of my favorite wine, my Schubert cd's and my books.
At least until I'm drunk enough so that my inner Woody Allen steps down and my inner Ozzy comes out. Plus I don't dance. In all honesty, the only reason I went to bars when I was younger was to meet girls. The music and the booze is always much better at home, and there's no guy standing in the corner of the bathroom and handing you paper towels, expecting a tip.
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Re: Things that I've learned last night...
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I cannot stand most bars. The last time I went out to a bar it was for the birthday of a friend of a friend, and the place we went to was toe-to-hell packed to the rafters, it took 15 minutes to get served, they were playing the most godawful music at full blast and you had to literally shout 2 inches from people's faces to communicate, and even then you only got about 50% of what people were saying. I was stood there, sweating, hemmed in on all sides by yelling douchebags, trying to shout banal small talk with all the power of my lungs at someone I really had no interest in talking to. It was horrible, and I think I left at about 9:30pm. Said my goodbyes and just walked out. The looks on everyone's faces - "you're GOING? When we're having such an awesome time?" It's at times like that I feel completely alien to humanity due to the fact that so many people are seemingly enjoying something which is excruciatingly irritating to me. But then I start to thinking, maybe none of those people are enjoying it either. They've just been conditioned to believe that unless you give the impression that you love loud music and people yelling crap to each other over overpriced, watered down drinks, then there's something wrong with you. And then there are those bars where there's a wall of widescreen TV's showing sports. Again.....hell. I think the only bar experience I've ever enjoyed was many years ago after a harrowing day's climbing in the Lake District, where I almost slipped to my death scaling Scafell Pike in the snow, and then we took a wrong turn on the misty descent and ended up walking 5 miles in the wrong direction. About a mile from our camp we stumbled into this homely looking rustic pub, exhausted, frozen and soaking wet, and there was no music, there was a big crackling fire and real ale. And a few rosy-cheeked farmers dotted around the room talking at sensible volumes about perfectly sane things, like sheep dip and pig feed. I honestly felt like I was back in the womb.
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Re: Things that I've learned last night...
2016/05/21 03:50:49
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The only bars I feel comfortable in are English-style dart bars.
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Re: Things that I've learned last night...
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Re: Things that I've learned last night...
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This part of Scotland has a complete lack of what I know as a 'proper pub'. There are either bars where guys go to get hammered and watch footy, or hotels where you feel out-of-place if you're not eating a 3-course dinner. The village I came from in England had 3 excellent pubs, all within walking distance of my house, no TV's, just good ales and atmosphere, food if you wanted it, occasional live music. On any night of the week I could wander down there and find at least 4-5 people to have a chinwag with for an hour or two. I do miss that. I read that pubs are closing down at a rapid rate in the UK, so I expect it'll all be a rose-tinted memory one day.
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2016/05/21 09:12:13
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I miss a good chinwag now and then as well.
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Re: Things that I've learned last night...
2016/05/21 09:29:49
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☄ Helpfulby Andy Stone 2016/05/22 08:31:14
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Re: Things that I've learned last night...
2016/05/21 09:41:29
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Re: Things that I've learned last night...
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all the best, Kenny
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Re: Things that I've learned last night...
2016/05/21 18:58:25
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Corbin is certainly a cute looking fella all the best , Kenny
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He is, and such a playful little guy. I'm definitely going to miss him when I move. Maybe I'll find a place where I can get a dog, but I won't until I know I can afford to take care of one (and I mean for his entire life).
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Well , he sure looks like a character Kenny
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jamesg1213 This part of Scotland has a complete lack of what I know as a 'proper pub'. There are either bars where guys go to get hammered and watch footy, or hotels where you feel out-of-place if you're not eating a 3-course dinner
We are not there yet in Devon but its moving that way, good traditional pubs are getting hard to find, particularly in the towns. A lot of village pubs are becoming community owned and providing other services, like a post office. It all started when they started changing the names. The first time I saw this an old harbour side pub where my grandmother had served pints to trawlermen and mine sweeper crews in WW1 changed from "The Commercial Inn" to the "Sprat and Mackerel". Speculation was rife bout the next to change, my favourite speculative name was "The Babby Pout" (babby being Devon dialect for baby, and pout is fish of little commercial value.) Mind you many of the new names you see are no less ridiculous.
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Re: Things that I've learned last night...
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jamesg1213 I'm sure you do Dafydd.
I'm definately beginning to like the sense of humor in the coffee house. Once I get over being the new kid and loose my inhibitions, I'll surely start to join in.
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What really annoys me at gigs is when you stand near to people who use there phones to record the whole concert. They even seem to be watching the show on they're phones!!!! Your hear to watch the band people, not watch the band on your phones.
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