drewfx1
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Think before you create an AI to post like a 19 to 24 year old American.
http://www.wired.com/2016/03/fault-microsofts-teen-ai-turned-jerk/
On Wednesday morning, the company unveiled Tay, a chat bot meant to mimic the verbal tics of a 19-year-old American girl, provided to the world at large via the messaging platforms Twitter, Kik and GroupMe. According to Microsoft, the aim was to “conduct research on conversational understanding.” Company researchers programmed the bot to respond to messages in an “entertaining” way, impersonating the audience it was created to target: 18- to 24-year-olds in the US. “Microsoft’s AI fam from the internet that’s got zero chill,” Tay’s tagline read.
'This is an example of the classic computer science adage: garbage in, garbage out.'
—Oren Etzioni, CEO, Allen Institute for Artificial Intelligence
But it became apparent all too quickly that Tay could have used some chill. Hours into the chat bot’s launch, Tay was echoing Donald Trump’s stance on immigration, saying Hitler was right, and agreeing that 9/11 was probably an inside job. By the evening, Tay went offline, saying she was taking a break “to absorb it all.” Some of her more hateful tweets started disappearing from the Internet, deleted by Microsoft itself. “We have taken Tay offline and are making adjustments,” a Microsoft spokesperson wrote in an email to WIRED.
 In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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Re: Think before you create an AI to post like a 19 to 24 year old American.
2016/03/25 19:58:16
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They must've culled the tics from the FSF.
Finally it (FSF) did some good in the world.
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Re: Think before you create an AI to post like a 19 to 24 year old American.
2016/03/25 20:33:25
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☄ Helpfulby BobF 2016/03/25 21:04:26
Notice there isn't any need for AS? We've got all the natural stupidity that we'll ever need already... 
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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Re: Think before you create an AI to post like a 19 to 24 year old American.
2016/03/25 20:49:55
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craigb
Notice there isn't any need for AS? We've got all the natural stupidity that we'll ever need already...
NS, eh? 
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Re: Think before you create an AI to post like a 19 to 24 year old American.
2016/03/25 21:06:19
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meh this sounds fishy
cause if tay was mimicking 19-24 y/o millennials they dont like trump, dont think 9-11 was inside much less care and know who Hilter was and his legacy
sounds like thought spin to me
afa gleaning from the "internet", theres way too much diversity Reddit, neo politico, 4chan, hell even Fox drifts left
for her to zero in on the "whako right site/forums/ etc
BULL S***T
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drewfx1
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Re: Think before you create an AI to post like a 19 to 24 year old American.
2016/03/25 21:10:41
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☄ Helpfulby Rain 2016/03/25 22:04:35
craigb
Notice there isn't any need for AS? We've got all the natural stupidity that we'll ever need already...
Actually I find it kind of encouraging that technology exists that can make obsolete all the trolls, idiots and delusional types - along with all those who confuse public policy debates with just spouting clueless vitriol.
In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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drewfx1
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Re: Think before you create an AI to post like a 19 to 24 year old American.
2016/03/25 21:12:40
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Ham N Egz
meh this sounds fishy
cause if tay was mimicking 19-24 y/o millennials they dont like trump, dont think 9-11 was inside much less care and know who Hilter was and his legacy
sounds like thought spin to me
afa gleaning from the "internet", theres way too much diversity Reddit, neo politico, 4chan, hell even Fox drifts left
for her to zero in on the "whako right site/forums/ etc
BULL S***T
It was people gaming the AI to make it do this, not necessarily "real" 19 to 24 year olds.
In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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Ham N Egz
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Re: Think before you create an AI to post like a 19 to 24 year old American.
2016/03/25 21:14:22
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craigb
Notice there isn't any need for AS? We've got all the natural stupidity that we'll ever need already...
Actually I find it kind of encouraging that technology exists that can make obsolete all the trolls, idiots and delusional types - along with all those who confuse public policy debates with just spouting clueless vitriol.
But doesnt make obsolete the Kool-Aide
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Re: Think before you create an AI to post like a 19 to 24 year old American.
2016/03/25 22:29:26
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craigb
Notice there isn't any need for AS? We've got all the natural stupidity that we'll ever need already...
Actually I find it kind of encouraging that technology exists that can make obsolete all the trolls, idiots and delusional types - along with all those who confuse public policy debates with just spouting clueless vitriol.
haha. Do you mean M.I.T. Romney? He's a robot, no doubt.
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Re: Think before you create an AI to post like a 19 to 24 year old American.
2016/03/26 03:57:33
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craigb
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Re: Think before you create an AI to post like a 19 to 24 year old American.
2016/03/26 05:09:01
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☄ Helpfulby drewfx1 2016/03/26 13:09:14
Reminds me of Carissa Swenson...  
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Re: Think before you create an AI to post like a 19 to 24 year old American.
2016/03/26 09:00:42
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craigb
Notice there isn't any need for AS? We've got all the natural stupidity that we'll ever need already...
Actually I find it kind of encouraging that technology exists that can make obsolete all the trolls, idiots and delusional types - along with all those who confuse public policy debates with just spouting clueless vitriol.
I can think of a few radio and tv analysts that are doing just that ... it used to be called "dis-information".
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drewfx1
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Re: Think before you create an AI to post like a 19 to 24 year old American.
2016/03/26 13:04:08
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drewfx1
craigb
Notice there isn't any need for AS? We've got all the natural stupidity that we'll ever need already...
Actually I find it kind of encouraging that technology exists that can make obsolete all the trolls, idiots and delusional types - along with all those who confuse public policy debates with just spouting clueless vitriol.
I can think of a few radio and tv analysts that are doing just that ... it used to be called "dis-information".
I was thinking more in terms of the fact that the AI is basically trying to learn "appropriate" responses that fit the context of an unpredictable conversation. But in reality there's little actual intelligence involved at this point and instead it's just mindlessly mimicking what it heard without adding anything new. IOW it doesn't add any value to the conversation. And if you put a bunch of troll-bots out there to bait people (and each other!) in every possible way, once people are aware of the fact that they might not be dealing with a real person they won't bother engaging with anyone that doesn't show some sign of a higher intelligence.
In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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Re: Think before you create an AI to post like a 19 to 24 year old American.
2016/03/26 13:15:18
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☄ Helpfulby SteveStrummerUK 2016/03/26 15:43:33
Hmm. It might get confused and reveal itself by shoehorning the same opinions and outdated points of reference into threads over and over, regardless of the topic at hand...
...oh..wait...
Jyemz Thrombold's Patented Brisk Weather Pantaloonettes with Inclementometer
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Re: Think before you create an AI to post like a 19 to 24 year old American.
2016/03/26 13:49:36
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☄ Helpfulby drewfx1 2016/03/26 14:21:37
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Actually I find it kind of encouraging that technology exists that can make obsolete all the trolls, idiots and delusional types - along with all those who confuse public policy debates with just spouting clueless vitriol.
Apparently AI could replaicate a presidential candidate as well.
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Re: Think before you create an AI to post like a 19 to 24 year old American.
2016/03/26 15:29:07
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Hmm. It might get confused and reveal itself by shoehorning the same opinions and outdated points of reference into threads over and over, regardless of the topic at hand...
...oh..wait...
PWF* * Pedro-wettingly-funny
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Re: Think before you create an AI to post like a 19 to 24 year old American.
2016/03/26 16:59:01
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg71 2016/03/27 17:24:27
drewfx1
I was thinking more in terms of the fact that the AI is basically trying to learn "appropriate" responses that fit the context of an unpredictable conversation. But in reality there's little actual intelligence involved at this point and instead it's just mindlessly mimicking what it heard without adding anything new.
IOW it doesn't add any value to the conversation.
And if you put a bunch of troll-bots out there to bait people (and each other!) in every possible way, once people are aware of the fact that they might not be dealing with a real person they won't bother engaging with anyone that doesn't show some sign of a higher intelligence.
Just great. This is telling me that there are already no humans in the Coffee House!  (Or is there?)
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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Moshkito
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Re: Think before you create an AI to post like a 19 to 24 year old American.
2016/03/27 11:04:57
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...
On Wednesday morning, the company unveiled Tay, a chat bot meant to mimic the verbal tics of a 19-year-old American girl, provided to the world at large via the messaging platforms Twitter, Kik and GroupMe. According to Microsoft, the aim was to “conduct research on conversational understanding.” Company researchers programmed the bot to respond to messages in an “entertaining” way, impersonating the audience it was created to target: 18- to 24-year-olds in the US. “Microsoft’s AI fam from the internet that’s got zero chill,” Tay’s tagline read.
At least I did not think that the code artists that helped create this were about 40 or 50 years old ... this would have been done by code artists that were younger, more than likely, so I would think that the responses would be better tailored to the discussions and the average age that it seemed to exist in that area. It's weird ... that we think that anything created for computers and by computers has to be exactly like us, and copy us ... but in the end, how can it not? ... who created it? So, the more stupid thing, was a comment suggesting that it should have behaved differently and not like the other kids! We did that at school every day! So what?
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Re: Think before you create an AI to post like a 19 to 24 year old American.
2016/03/27 11:20:23
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One of the most under-appreciated science fiction epics of all time! 
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drewfx1
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Re: Think before you create an AI to post like a 19 to 24 year old American.
2016/03/27 12:34:09
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One of the most under-appreciated science fiction epics of all time!
Now I'm gonna have to watch that one again.  I would have really liked to have seen the Kubrick version though...
In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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craigb
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Re: Think before you create an AI to post like a 19 to 24 year old American.
2016/03/27 18:51:38
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Blade Runner and I Robot come to mind as well.
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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