This is a home run.

I believe studio one had Melodyne integrated for some time.

Mesh
I believe studio one had Melodyne integrated for some time.

Yup, and it's the only feature that I really miss from S1.  Soooooo glad to see it in X3 and, according to Noel, X3's implementation of Melodyne ARA is deeper than that in S1. 

You guys are definitely in for a treat :)

I have used melodyne on a big project in another studio.  I had to learn it just to do that single job, but then back in my studio I still didn't have it.  Now I'm almost relieved that I punted on buying it.

Actually, in S1 there weren't really any limitations, only advantages. Think V-Vocal integration, only with Melodyne, a far supperiour pitch correction tool IMO, from what I have seen of it. I love Melodyne so this is perfect for me.

A really cool thing about it is that it uses whatever version of Melodyne you have installed. So no limitations to the software either, just great integration with your work environment.

And from what I understand from Seth's and Dan's subtle teases, it will be even better than what S1 can do with ARA and Melodyne so this should be a pretty cool upgrade for those of us who utilize Melodyne extensively;)

BlixYZ
So, in S1, you could do anything that the FULL version of Melodyne would do?

If you own the full version.

I'll bypass and get some decent musicians to record.

markyzno
I'll bypass and get some decent musicians to record.

Uh oh, that means The CHB will have to get all new musicians, errrmmmm a bass player I mean. 

stevec
FWIW, I think there are still a few things that VVocal can do better or at least easier, particularly on the timing side of things. 

I agree, Steve.

ryannadon
Noob question....
 
I already have editor. I use the plugin quite a bit. What are the perks of this integrated version over using the plug? Also, will you still have to launch Melodyne from the fx bin or is different? A dockable view like the PRV maybe??

Perk 1, no more having to "capture" the audio. It's always there immediately upon opening the clip's editor window.

The project in which i worked with Melodyne required me to clean up after another engineers misdeeds- he used three mics to record three to five people SIMULTANEOUSLY.  The takes were far from perfect and REQUIRED Melodyne polyphonic pitch isolation and correction.   It was a painstaking process, but it saved those takes and made them usable.  Assembling the same singers again was not an option in this case.  
I would never have let the singers record together unless they were ALL nailing it.  It's unlikely that I would need that same functionality often- but for producing tracks from a polyphonic sample or even just correcting the pitch of a single note in a guitar chord, I would love to have the FULL functionality.  
If Vvocal didn't have artifacts and was 100% stable, it would be the shiznit.  

BlixYZ
The project in which i worked with Melodyne required me to clean up after another engineers misdeeds- he used three mics to record three to five people SIMULTANEOUSLY.  The takes were far from perfect and REQUIRED Melodyne polyphonic pitch isolation and correction.   It was a painstaking process, but it saved those takes and made them usable.  Assembling the same singers again was not an option in this case.  
I would never have let the singers record together unless they were ALL nailing it.  It's unlikely that I would need that same functionality often- but for producing tracks from a polyphonic sample or even just correcting the pitch of a single note in a guitar chord, I would love to have the FULL functionality.  
If Vvocal didn't have artifacts and was 100% stable, it would be the shiznit.  

Jon (from Tech Support) and I used Editor to fix an out of tune Grand Piano

Skyline_UK

stickman393

stevec
FWIW, I think there are still a few things that VVocal can do better or at least easier, particularly on the timing side of things. 

I agree, Steve.

You can move notes in Melodyne, I use the tool frequently.
 
John 

Me too, that's why I specifically pointed out that moving individual notes is so much easier in MD.   But if you wanted to take a specific set of notes and move them all closer together or further apart relative to each other, VVocal's timing section can do that much easier.    Granted, I don't do that a lot, and I do use MD way more often.    But VVocal still has its uses for me.
 

stevec
FWIW, I think there are still a few things that VVocal can do better or at least easier, particularly on the timing side of things.  Like the way you can grab a section between markers and stretch/compress at will.   And it does have the pencil tool.  
 
But for pitch correction/editing, and just moving individual notes (aka blobs) around, I find Melodyne to be the better choice.   And it also does some things that VVocal does not (or not as easy).  It's often more accurate/realistic to split the breath or consonant from a word and just adjust the "body" of the wave.  Easy peasy.
 

I agree as well.  I have been using Melodyne Editor for a while now, and it is an amazing tool for getting a whole vocal track in tune, but super fine (penciling in) of vocal pitches, especially the vocal onsets (first part of the pitched note) was far easier and more granular in V-Vocal.  The combination of the two is unstoppable for pitch editing/correcting in my opinion.  The fact that Sonar can still use an integrated V-Vocal and now comes with an integrated Melodyne seems to put it at an advantage over other DAWs.  Are there any other pitch editing tools as "finely granular" as V-Vocal? 
 
I think the granularity of V-Vocal is what often caused problems for people using it when they really needed broader brush strokes because the "fineness" of it across the board caused artifacts.  However, after the broad brush strokes have been applied with something like Melodyne, I haven't found anything on par with V-Vocal to make those minutely detailed pencil strokes on small bits of the pitched audio data.  Just my $.02.  The bottom line is that Sonar rules, and having access to both of these tools has been indispensable in my studio!
 
Keep up the good work Cakewalk (Development)!

Seth Kellogg [Cakewalk]

BlixYZ
The project in which i worked with Melodyne required me to clean up after another engineers misdeeds- he used three mics to record three to five people SIMULTANEOUSLY.  The takes were far from perfect and REQUIRED Melodyne polyphonic pitch isolation and correction.   It was a painstaking process, but it saved those takes and made them usable.  Assembling the same singers again was not an option in this case.  
I would never have let the singers record together unless they were ALL nailing it.  It's unlikely that I would need that same functionality often- but for producing tracks from a polyphonic sample or even just correcting the pitch of a single note in a guitar chord, I would love to have the FULL functionality.  
If Vvocal didn't have artifacts and was 100% stable, it would be the shiznit.  

Jon (from Tech Support) and I used Editor to fix an out of tune Grand Piano

I've never done a piano but I've fixed missed guitar chords, bad bends and out of tune notes in chords.