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2013/11/04 03:33:54 (permalink)

This is not good?

Anyone keen to have a stab @ this?
 If I move the mouse it stalls the Nowtime marker till I stop....GLITCHING LIKE MAD?
Thanx in advance_
 
 
 
 
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CONCLUSION
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Your system appears to be having trouble handling real-time audio and other tasks. You are likely to experience buffer underruns appearing as drop outs, clicks or pops. One or more DPC routines that belong to a driver running in your system appear to be executing for too long. One problem may be related to power management, disable CPU throttling settings in Control Panel and BIOS setup.....CAN'T FIND THIS? Check for BIOS updates...DONE
LatencyMon has been analyzing your system for 0:06:36 (h:mm:ss) on all processors.

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SYSTEM INFORMATION
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Computer name: Jinxy
OS version: Windows 7 Service Pack 1, 6.1, build: 7601 (x64)
Hardware: XPS 630i, Dell Inc, 0PP150
CPU: GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
Logical processors: 4
Processor groups: 1
RAM: 4093 MB total

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CPU SPEED
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Reported CPU speed: 2400.0 MHz
Measured CPU speed: 2415.0 MHz (approx.)
Note: reported execution times may be calculated based on a fixed reported CPU speed. Disable variable speed settings like Intel Speed Step and AMD Cool N Quiet in the BIOS setup for more accurate results.

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MEASURED INTERRUPT TO USER PROCESS LATENCIES
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The interrupt to process latency reflects the measured interval that a usermode process needed to respond to a hardware request from the moment the interrupt service routine started execution. This includes the scheduling and execution of a DPC routine, the signaling of an event and the waking up of a usermode thread from an idle wait state in response to that event.
Highest measured interrupt to process latency (µs): 4873.773823
Average measured interrupt to process latency (µs): 11.400827
Highest measured interrupt to DPC latency (µs): 2139.289324
Average measured interrupt to DPC latency (µs): 6.210680

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REPORTED ISRs
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Interrupt service routines are routines installed by the OS and device drivers that execute in response to a hardware interrupt signal.
Highest ISR routine execution time (µs): 176.726250
Driver with highest ISR routine execution time: dxgkrnl.sys - DirectX Graphics Kernel, Microsoft Corporation
Highest reported total ISR routine time (%): 0.033439
Driver with highest ISR total time: dxgkrnl.sys - DirectX Graphics Kernel, Microsoft Corporation
Total time spent in ISRs (%) 0.103091
ISR count (execution time <250 µs): 543774
ISR count (execution time 250-500 µs): 0
ISR count (execution time 500-999 µs): 0
ISR count (execution time 1000-1999 µs): 0
ISR count (execution time 2000-3999 µs): 0
ISR count (execution time >=4000 µs): 0

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REPORTED DPCs
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DPC routines are part of the interrupt servicing dispatch mechanism and disable the possibility for a process to utilize the CPU while it is interrupted until the DPC has finished execution.
Highest DPC routine execution time (µs): 2159.90250
Driver with highest DPC routine execution time: ohci1394.sys - 1394 OpenHCI Port Driver, Microsoft Corporation
Highest reported total DPC routine time (%): 1.807079
Driver with highest DPC total execution time: ohci1394.sys - 1394 OpenHCI Port Driver, Microsoft Corporation
Total time spent in DPCs (%) 2.369620
DPC count (execution time <250 µs): 2330652
DPC count (execution time 250-500 µs): 0
DPC count (execution time 500-999 µs): 60411
DPC count (execution time 1000-1999 µs): 69
DPC count (execution time 2000-3999 µs): 5
DPC count (execution time >=4000 µs): 0

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REPORTED HARD PAGEFAULTS
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Hard pagefaults are events that get triggered by making use of virtual memory that is not resident in RAM but backed by a memory mapped file on disk. The process of resolving the hard pagefault requires reading in the memory from disk while the process is interrupted and blocked from execution.
NOTE: some processes were hit by hard pagefaults. If these were programs producing audio, they are likely to interrupt the audio stream resulting in dropouts, clicks and pops. Check the Processes tab to see which programs were hit.
Process with highest pagefault count: svchost.exe
Total number of hard pagefaults 169
Hard pagefault count of hardest hit process: 45
Highest hard pagefault resolution time (µs): 105626.478750
Total time spent in hard pagefaults (%): 0.085011
Number of processes hit: 7

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PER CPU DATA
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CPU 0 Interrupt cycle time (s): 40.369303
CPU 0 ISR highest execution time (µs): 176.726250
CPU 0 ISR total execution time (s): 1.33610
CPU 0 ISR count: 519603
CPU 0 DPC highest execution time (µs): 2134.706250
CPU 0 DPC total execution time (s): 34.203831
CPU 0 DPC count: 2233801
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CPU 1 Interrupt cycle time (s): 3.664366
CPU 1 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0.0
CPU 1 ISR total execution time (s): 0.0
CPU 1 ISR count: 0
CPU 1 DPC highest execution time (µs): 133.383750
CPU 1 DPC total execution time (s): 0.070439
CPU 1 DPC count: 25651
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CPU 2 Interrupt cycle time (s): 6.242962
CPU 2 ISR highest execution time (µs): 159.390
CPU 2 ISR total execution time (s): 0.299012
CPU 2 ISR count: 24171
CPU 2 DPC highest execution time (µs): 2159.90250
CPU 2 DPC total execution time (s): 3.104864
CPU 2 DPC count: 87794
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CPU 3 Interrupt cycle time (s): 4.506229
CPU 3 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0.0
CPU 3 ISR total execution time (s): 0.0
CPU 3 ISR count: 0
CPU 3 DPC highest execution time (µs): 87.131250
CPU 3 DPC total execution time (s): 0.205226
CPU 3 DPC count: 43891
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Jinxy
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Re: This is not good? 2013/11/04 03:43:40 (permalink)
Sounds like a video issue to me. You might want to try updating your video card driver.
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Re: This is not good? 2013/11/04 03:54:54 (permalink)
Tried that Leadfoot (& 3 days worth of everything)...is there an issue with these cards?
 
I'm peaking!

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Re: This is not good? 2013/11/04 04:00:10 (permalink)
I wish I had an answer for you. There are many knowledgeable folks here. Hopefully one of them drops by to help. I hope you get it figured out soon.
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Re: This is not good? 2013/11/04 05:09:04 (permalink)
Thanx anyways...looks like it's a dead thread, RATS!

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Re: This is not good? 2013/11/04 08:38:11 (permalink)
Give it some time Jinxy, you posted when most of US and Europe are typically not available.  I suspect you will have some help later today - possibly even from a baker. 

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Re: This is not good? 2013/11/04 08:58:26 (permalink)
I have the same issue with X3.  It didn't exist with X2.
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Re: This is not good? 2013/11/04 09:35:41 (permalink)
Jinxy,
 
When you use LatencyMon (as it looks from your above post you have) there is a drivers tab. Sort the drivers tab by the Highest Execution (ms) column in descending order and tell us your top 10 and what the latencies are.
 
This is a picture what mine look like...

 
As long as you don't have any cases over 0.5 you should be ok. Look for the ones over 0.5 ms and then google the driver files to see what they do.

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Re: This is not good? 2013/11/04 09:40:47 (permalink)
Hi,
Here's another latency monitor utility which may help you identify which process on your machine is introducing latency.
Russ 
 
http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml
 

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Re: This is not good? 2013/11/04 09:53:30 (permalink)
 
The worse offender by far on my system is USBPORT.SYS.
 
The only reason I can think of is the wireless mouse.
 

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Re: This is not good? 2013/11/04 10:01:44 (permalink)
The real culprit seems to be:
 
Highest DPC routine execution time (µs): 2159.90250
Driver with highest DPC routine execution time: ohci1394.sys - 1394 OpenHCI Port Driver, Microsoft Corporation
 
That looks like a firewire driver. If you are not using the firewire interface, pull the firewire card out (if it is a separate card), or disable in BIOS. If your audio interface uses firewire, you will need to resolve the DPC latency by determining what else shares the interrupts for the firewire. If you are using a USB interface, you should not need the firewire port.
 
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Re: This is not good? 2013/11/04 18:06:30 (permalink)
 
BIG thanx to all for yur help....so far.

Here is a couple of screenshots that seem to underpin what has been suggested. Funny thing it didn't glitch while playing the CW demo?

My Q is where do I go from here seeing as tho it's (am I right?) USB & FW that are the main culprits & I'm runng RMW FF800 FW? Is 4G ram too small..??
 
PS ANYONE KNOW HOWTO PASTE the screenshots....can get it in but displays code only.....DOH!
post edited by Jinxy - 2013/11/04 18:15:49

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Re: This is not good? 2013/11/04 18:19:24 (permalink)
If you're on a 64 bit OS it probably is a bit low.

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Re: This is not good? 2013/11/04 18:45:34 (permalink)
Gregmang
I have the same issue with X3.  It didn't exist with X2.




I have X3 and X2 on my home PC. They both do the Now Time marker thing.
 
It's worse in X3. It won't move in X3 until I stop moving the mouse. But only when the mouse is in Track View. If the cursor is outside the TV, no problem.
 
With X2 while cursor is in the TV the "Now Time" marker just jump every now and then.
 
But I get no glitches or snap, crackle, pops in X2 or X3 when this is happening. Even playing a 29trk (with minimal plugins) audio project.
 
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Re: This is not good? 2013/11/04 20:10:46 (permalink)
turn off aim assist "X" if you haven't already, see if it helps
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Re: This is not good? 2013/11/04 22:33:32 (permalink)
Although it seems like this isn't the problem in your case, I got the same symptoms once after a video card driver "update" happened automatically. I since learned to turn off automatic updates. I don't care if an update improves frame rate in "Intergalactic Death Zombies of the Coaxial Galaxy."

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Re: This is not good? 2013/11/04 22:35:54 (permalink)
Oh, and one more suggestion - it's easier to get specific answers if you ask specific questions. "This is Not Good?" could be a thread about what to do if a cat pukes into your keyboard.

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Re: This is not good? 2013/11/04 22:43:49 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Anderton 2013/11/04 22:58:31
I had a similar issue with my Logitech M510 laser mouse.  When I switched out to a Microsoft blu-track optical mouse the issue went a way.  I did not have this problem in X2.  It seems there is an issue in X3 with high interrupt devices like laser or gaming mice which have 10 times the interrupts to the OS than a normal optical mouse does.

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Re: This is not good? 2013/11/05 03:26:29 (permalink)
I have the same issue with X3.  It didn't exist with X2.


I have X3 and X2 on my home PC. They both do the Now Time marker thing.
 
It's worse in X3. It won't move in X3 until I stop moving the mouse. But only when the mouse is in Track View. If the cursor is outside the TV, no problem.
GREM


Interesting no glitch...thanx Grem...It's gotta be the NVidia card!


 

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Re: This is not good? 2013/11/05 07:13:57 (permalink)
Thanx for the input ANderton...I'm actually scared of zombies....now if only I could rid this machine of GLITCHES!!!!!!

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Re: This is not good? 2013/11/05 08:40:54 (permalink)
cake should publish a "known issues " list
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Re: This is not good? 2013/11/06 08:12:05 (permalink)
Well, since you need the firewire port, you have to make sure it isn't sharing the same bus as the USB port that your mouse is plugged in to. If the firewire port is on a separate PCIe card, try moving it to a different slot. Otherwise, try moving the mouse to a different USB port, preferably one that is on a different bus.
 
If you can't resolve the issue by moving things around, and your firewire port is on the motherboard, I would suggest that you purchase a PCIe firewire card and disable the port on the motherboard.
 
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Re: This is not good? 2013/11/06 22:05:09 (permalink)
dcumpian
Well, since you need the firewire port, you have to make sure it isn't sharing the same bus as the USB port that your mouse is plugged in to. If the firewire port is on a separate PCIe card, try moving it to a different slot. Otherwise, try moving the mouse to a different USB port, preferably one that is on a different bus.
 
If you can't resolve the issue by moving things around, and your firewire port is on the motherboard, I would suggest that you purchase a PCIe firewire card and disable the port on the motherboard.
 
Regards,
Dan
 




Not only is that an excellent point, but gives me an excuse to remind people that if you're going to buy a card for your mobo to get additional FireWire or USB ports, DO NOT get a combo card with both. Get one or the other. If you need both, get two cards.

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