This place needs some lively discussion...What do you use MC for?

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This place needs some lively discussion...What do you use MC for?

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What version of MC do you use and what do you use it for?
 
I have versions MC5 & MC6.  But I also have Sonar X1 Producer.  however, I have MC on my laptop and it's great for just throwing together a stereo capture of a rehearsal just to use as a "practice tape."  I also use MC to help people mostly on these forums.  for true multitracking I use X1.

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    Re:This place needs some lively discussion...What do you use MC for? 2011/09/02 14:00:10 (permalink)
    I use MC4. I know there are others here that have upgraded to MC5 and MC6, but many people seem to like the way MC4 is layed out. I haven't found the need to upgrade yet. I have been able to do most of the things I like with MC4 and when I do, I'll probably have to upgrade the computer I'll be running on as well.

    I use MC4 to record my compositions. My first compositions were midi only, but I have upgraded my equipment so that I can record Acoustic / Electric Guitars and Basses as well as vocals. I use my Keyboard controller to record midi for all the remaining instruments.

     I also use MC4 to learn and play along with some great songs as well.


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    Re:This place needs some lively discussion...What do you use MC for? 2011/09/04 07:52:09 (permalink)
    Thanks for sharing, Jame!  I hope all is well with you!

    I hoped more people would chime in.  oh well.  Just trying to stir the board up a little.

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    Re:This place needs some lively discussion...What do you use MC for? 2011/09/04 09:23:24 (permalink)
    i use MC5 and Studio instruments for creating my demos to send off to music publishers.. it was becoming too expensive to record in the studio jason
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    Re:This place needs some lively discussion...What do you use MC for? 2011/09/04 10:41:03 (permalink)
    I bought MC4 about 4 years ago, when MC5 came out I entered a Cake promo give away and won the second of six  copies they gave away. I continued to use MC4 most often. 

    I recently crossgraded to X1e. I bounce between MC4 & X1 as needed. 

    I use them to produce finished (in my opinion anyway) songs for film & TV and other commercial uses. Since MC will produce broadcast quality music ..... it serves the purpose so far.

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    Re:This place needs some lively discussion...What do you use MC for? 2011/09/04 14:29:21 (permalink)
    I am currently using X1E as Herb said. I have MC5 on my DAW, and occasionally i open it to do down and dirty Midi edits. I also use about four other software titles, depending on the need, but i am finding X1 to be a very solid product that allows me to get the shiny on a project.

    I have the essentials package right now, as it seems to do all i need. I would love to have the plug ins from Producer, but i have a ton of 3rd party stuff that makes for a pretty potent package.

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    Re:This place needs some lively discussion...What do you use MC for? 2011/09/06 04:40:02 (permalink)
    I have both MC4 and MC5. I was using MC5 until it stopped allowing me to choose the output on synth or audio tracks - e.g. I couldn't send things to the Master Bus or an effects bus. I uninstalled it and tried again. It worked for a while, but then the same problem arose.

    So, I went back to MC4, and it was like meeting an old friend! I really liked being able to reduce the height of the tracks - it provides a better overview of what's going on without scrolling up and down or opening and closing folders ... and I have access to the Sound Centre that came with MC5. So I'm happy with MC4 at the moment.

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    Re:This place needs some lively discussion...What do you use MC for? 2011/09/06 08:00:23 (permalink)
    I think the synth output problem is one of the things they patched - do you have the MC5 patch?

    great stories guys!  keep it coming!!!

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    Re:This place needs some lively discussion...What do you use MC for? 2011/09/06 23:36:58 (permalink)
    Spot on Beagle. I just checked and I missed an MC5 update. Under the enhancements with the update: 'New templates are available to address an issue where track/bus outputs could not be changed'. Problem solved! Many thanks Beagle for pointing that out.

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    Re:This place needs some lively discussion...What do you use MC for? 2011/09/07 05:47:23 (permalink)
    Maybe some of you more knowledgeable guys could advise me as to whether what I'm thinking about doing with MC will work.
    Up until now I have used MC5 for little more than playing around with MIDI files and a MIDI keyboard, attempting to create covers of one or two of my favourite tracks.
    Many years ago I played drums for a while and have now re-ignited my interest and have bought an electronic drum kit. I would love to team up with a couple of keyboards players and cover a few favourite 80s tracks just for fun, and this is where MC5 (hopefully) comes in.
    I'd like to create decent-sounding MIDI music files, but then mute the drum track so drums can be played live by me and then mute some of the individual tracks so these parts can be played live by two MIDI keyboards hooked up to the PC using MC5 and the TTS-1 softsynth. The remaining tracks in the MIDI file would then act as backing.
    Has anyone done this successfully, or does it at least sound feasible? Advice would be appreciated.
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    Re:This place needs some lively discussion...What do you use MC for? 2011/09/07 06:29:16 (permalink)
    absolutely!  but if you're talking about doing this live I"m not sure that's the way I'd go.  for practice, however, or for creating backing tracks to burn down to a CD this is completely the way to do it!

    it's just as you said - create or import MIDI tracks, mute the ones you don't want to hear at the time and go!

    electronic drums can trigger the softsynth SI drums from MC5 as well!  connect them via USB or MIDI cable to your soundcard (depending on what you have) and you might have to do some setup to get it to work right, but we can help you with that.

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    Re:This place needs some lively discussion...What do you use MC for? 2011/09/07 08:13:00 (permalink)
    for a live performance, I always suggest burning a CD minus the track(s) you will be performing live. CD's don't choke and crash in a show like a computer can be prone to do.....

    Although, I have seen some people use cakewalk software live exactly as you suggested. I'd be sure the computer was "clean" and lean. 

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    Re:This place needs some lively discussion...What do you use MC for? 2011/09/07 11:31:30 (permalink)
    Great. This is something I hope to experiment with in the very near future, and the idea of hooking the drums up sounds good too.
    I have thought about mixing down to cd or mp3 to reduce the risk of technical difficulties, but if a computer/software setup proved reliable it would be a real advantage to be able to adjust the individual tracks if necessary to suit the acoustics of the room.
    So if I wanted to hook up 2 or 3 midi devices to control MC, what would be the best way to do it? Connect each device straight to the PC via USB or connect the first device via USB and then daisy chain with midi in/out/thru connections?
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    Re:This place needs some lively discussion...What do you use MC for? 2011/09/07 12:55:18 (permalink)
    if you use the THRU ports for MIDI then you end up having problems with routing, IMO.  I'd use separate MIDI/USB for each device OR get a multi-I/O MIDI port device instead.

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    Re:This place needs some lively discussion...What do you use MC for? 2011/09/07 13:38:45 (permalink)
    I use my computer for live performance, and it does a great job. I do not use cake though, i use a program called Real Band, i do this cause Rb picks up the lyrics and chords in the song, and i suffer from CRS badly, so i need to take a peek once in a while.

    If you have one of those memories where you can remember all the chords and lyrics to 30, 40 songs for a night then a CD or MP3 backing is safer, and less worries. I have not yet had my system crash, but when it does i will dela with it with a joke or two.

    "The band was out late last night and they fell asleep, let's wake them up with this number" or something!

    You could always have a notebook in a stand with the songs notes for each in it, and go the simple route.

    Another reason i like the computer version is i once played a private party where a couple of the guest joined me for a song or two. One played a bit of keyboards. another some electric guitar. I was able to mute those instruments on the fly and it went off without a hitch.
     
    You can do all this with Sonar or MC, you jsut have to type in the lyrics, and chords and such.
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    Re:This place needs some lively discussion...What do you use MC for? 2011/09/07 15:46:25 (permalink)
    I saw some guys... playing keys and sax in a rest home a few weeks ago where I was working.... they used Cake live. And large lyrics were scrolling to the song. 


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    Re:This place needs some lively discussion...What do you use MC for? 2011/09/08 08:52:24 (permalink)
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    I saw some guys... playing keys and sax in a rest home a few weeks ago where I was working.... they used Cake live. And large lyrics were scrolling to the song. 


    there is a lyrics view.  I would never think of using cake for that - I would think a karaoke program would do better.

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    Re:This place needs some lively discussion...What do you use MC for? 2011/09/08 08:58:21 (permalink)
    Yeah they had it set up to scroll the lyrics that were "happening" in the song at that moment. 

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    Re:This place needs some lively discussion...What do you use MC for? 2011/09/08 09:01:33 (permalink)
    They were set up in the lobby area.... and directly in front of the door that I needed to work on. So while working on the door I got a good look at the lappy screen. 

    They were finished with the gig a short time later so I spoke with them for a few minutes.  They were loading each song into some version of sonar..... no play list, just whatever they decided was next..... and they were in no hurry between songs... 

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    Re:This place needs some lively discussion...What do you use MC for? 2011/09/08 11:43:59 (permalink)
    Some great info there guys, much appreciated.

    Now I know my aim is well within its capabilities I can start experimenting. 
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    Re:This place needs some lively discussion...What do you use MC for? 2011/09/08 11:51:36 (permalink)
    Alas, I no longer use MC except to help others who might have a question about it.
    Even that is getting hard since there have been so many new versions since my last MC purchase. A lot of changes since 2004.

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    Re:This place needs some lively discussion...What do you use MC for? 2011/09/08 12:07:02 (permalink)
    57Gregy


    Alas, I no longer use MC except to help others who might have a question about it.
    Even that is getting hard since there have been so many new versions since my last MC purchase. A lot of changes since 2004.


    Got that right!

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    Re:This place needs some lively discussion...What do you use MC for? 2011/09/08 13:05:23 (permalink)
    I know you can load up lyrics, but you have to enter them one word at a time in step with the melody. When i use Rb for live work, i start my songs with .kar files, they already have the lyrics embedded. Some are pretty bad, so i use RTs, and RDs, and Jamstix, Sampletank, and other things to fix them up. I play some of the tracks myself, and record that. When i get it to where i want, I save and store, then use the Jukebox feature to make play lists, with about 10 to 15 seconds between each song.

    I name the playlist like Country 1 or Rock 1 or uptempo country, or Country Ballads. Easy Rock mix, what ever, and i can recall them, and the will start with one space bar click and keep loading one song after another, until the set is done.

    You can do this in Sonar or MC with play lists, and if you want the lyrics just type them in abd place the chord letters in Caps at the change point.

    Some folks use a note screen and open it over the song. There are literally a dozen ways to skin that cat.

    I was working last night on two old tunes for the uptempo set, "from a Jack to a King", and "Travelin Band", fro CCR. I was able to add some very cool solo licks from the RTs collection that work pretty well. Great even mentioning it will make me have "seven thirty seven coming outta the sky.. " in my head the rest of the day!
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    Re:This place needs some lively discussion...What do you use MC for? 2011/09/08 13:22:32 (permalink)
    57Gregy


    Alas, I no longer use MC except to help others who might have a question about it.
    Even that is getting hard since there have been so many new versions since my last MC purchase. A lot of changes since 2004.


     because you have SHS?

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    Re:This place needs some lively discussion...What do you use MC for? 2011/09/08 18:02:28 (permalink)
    Because I have VSTs.
    MC Pro 24 and MC 2003 can't use them (without the VST adapter).
    And I have SHS.

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