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2013/11/09 11:22:54 (permalink)

Thorn In The Flesh

With all the lies, deceit, and deceptions coming out of our present government, we will be up against many trials and tribulations in the future. It will be a time of the change and not hope, that many people voted for, and are now starting to come to fruition. We are being brought under a socialistic form of governing, being made to buy things such as government controlled health care, paying for things that we never wanted or need personally, yet forced to do so, and loosing good policies, many already had in place for their protection. This is only the first step of a much bigger picture to come. Sometimes people get what they vote for and sometimes they don't! For believers in the faith, it is important to understand, that even in our weakest moments of our troubling times, we can have strength in our weakness. There is a bigger hope than our government to put our faith in, which comes from above.
 
This piece was put together to reflect the chaos and deceptions we are experiencing in our daily lives, brought on by this administration. But, it also reflects the hope of dealing with it all, knowing that we are strongest when we are in our weaknesses. I believe that all evil that is in our world will all be over come in the end. So, I hope this musical experience fits what I am trying to convey and that you too will remain strong in your weaknesses, as you walk through all your troubles.
 
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    Re: Thorn In The Flesh 2013/11/09 12:54:13 (permalink)
    Dear John,
     
    I will not reply to the political theory here (as we both are most likely on opposite sides), but solely tell you what I hear in this music:
     
    This is a very cinematic piece of music ("song" does not feel appropiate here) and sounds very professional to my ears. A nice build up in a "dramatical" way, as if there is movie which it is following. I particular like the vocal bits which are used really effectively!
     
     

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    Re: Thorn In The Flesh 2013/11/09 16:19:51 (permalink)
    I find it funny that you would say those things. Stop snorting the Koch-aine. BOTH parties are controlled by the corporations that give the orders.
     
    The music sounded good but seemed thin on chaos. I liked what you have though.

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    Re: Thorn In The Flesh 2013/11/09 20:43:59 (permalink)
    speedtom, No political theory here, just hard facts. As for sides, my side is the truth, based on facts. I like to keep it simple.
     
    As for the music, all the music I create for these pieces are for video/ movies and they always follow a story line, somewhere in our everyday life, somewhere in the world. It may not be on film yet, but I see the story in my mind, as if I were there watching it happen live, and play it over and over, until I get it right. It is in my art work, when I am painting a picture, it is in everyday life when I'm walking down the street, it is in our schools and colleges, it is the big picture that many miss if they don't stop to smell the roses, it is everywhere. It is cinematic in every way and drama plays a major part always.
     
    It's not appropriate to you, because you are watching a different film than I am watching, so we are on opposite sides of the theater.
    Glad you enjoyed the musical. I'll let you know when the film is out, or the painting is finished. Thanks for listening and your comments are always appreciated.
     
    Peace and Blessings, John
     
     
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    Re: Thorn In The Flesh 2013/11/09 20:55:36 (permalink)
    Guitarpima, I didn't say anything that isn't a fact for the whole world to investigate into, if they want to take the time to find it on their own. I am not political in any way, but I will tell the truth as it unfolds, because I get to have a voice, at least for the present time, or until they take that away also.
     
    Now for the music, it could have had more chaos in it, but I tried to keep chaos at bay as much as possible. I guess I was trying to get to the hope and salvation part a bit to fast. Guess I'll have to rethink my strategies in the future. Thanks for listening and your comments are always appreciated.
     
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    Re: Thorn In The Flesh 2013/11/09 21:53:35 (permalink)
    I think its funny when people make political statements and say they are "facts" when all they are spouting is rhetoric. Rhetoric is not stating facts. You have no facts anyway so what are you trying to say? You only say "our present government" because you don't like Obama.
     
    You complain about TAHCA because you "don't want to be forced to buy healthcare". I take it you don't drive a car for the same reason. You don't like "socialism" yet you're christian. In case you havn't noticed, Jesus was a socialist. He, according to the magical mythical stories, healed the sick and asked nothing in return. Clearly, according to you, Jesus was evil. How dare he care for the sick.
     
    "Things we don't need". I suppose you think it's a good thing that we keep building weapons of war? We spend trillions creating weapons. Why don't you complain about that? Why is it more important to make sure we can kill people but providing health care for everyone is so bad. Where are your morals? You do know what morality is don't you?
     
    I don't believe you know anything other than what you are told by those that control you. As I said, the corporations control our government. Andrew Jackson got control back during his presidency and Woodrow Wilson gave it away again. That is a fact.
     
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    Re: Thorn In The Flesh 2013/11/10 20:12:32 (permalink)
    Guitarpima, First, Read above and you will see I never said I don't like Obama, actually he is a very nice person, it is his philosophy that I don't like. Maybe he is the way he is because of his upbringing. I believe he is a demagogue, lives by a double standard, he is a statist, and nonaligned with the rest of humanity, has his own agenda and is a socialist like his father. Do I have to prove any thing here to you? No, actually I don't, you can do some studying and find all these things out for your self. I started my studies some 50 years ago.
     
    By attacking me for making a simple statement, you heap coals of fire on your own head, not on mine. You sound like a very angry person and so I have already prayed for you. 
     
    Socialists cloak themselves inelegant language, intricately weave half truths, live in hypothetical situations and omniscience into plans that no good thinking person would ever accept. It is a form of communism, that is, Soviet Union stand for the Soviet Union of Socialist Republic. Sort of like Nazism, which stands for National Socialist German Workers Party. What they believed and stood for and some who still practice them both today feel compulsory labor, with death as the final penalty, is the keystone of socialism. Now, some confused persons believe that socialism crosses a church social with the United Way. Socialism, like other isms, relies on force to sustain itself. Socialists may pat you on the back before pulling your plum out of the pie of private wealth, but they end up with it never the less. Although labels change form century to century, distill any to the basics and few differences arise.
     
    Do I like them making bombs any more than you do, well of course not. I hate war, I was in one and never enjoyed a single minute of it. Yea, they fooled me too. Jesus healed out of love, and He was never a socialist, communist or any thing other than the Son of God. You don't have to believe that, but there is a price to pay for everything, even unbelief. I hate no one, but I will speak out against wrong doing, as I am compelled to do so, even unto death.
     
    I would love for everyone to have health care/ insurance, but some choose not to have it, others are to lazy to work for it, others get cheated out of it, and so on, but it is not the governments duty to step in and make changes to the constitution and forcefully take over in every area of peoples lives. They can make suggestions on how to fix things, but that is it. They are in place to protect us and to guide us, not take over us. 
     
    One thing I will always remember, is the Lord warns me about people that will persecute me, and tells me not to worry, knowing that they persecuted Him first. The same goes for those that would try to kill me, knowing that they killed Him first. Your words to me, are cold and cruel and yet I am at peace. I will continue to pray for you.
     
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    Re: Thorn In The Flesh 2013/11/10 20:20:16 (permalink)
    John, if you just paid your fair share, we'd all be doing better... The new simplified 1040?
     
    1. How much did you make?
    2. Send it in...
     
    And oh by the way? That loaf of bread will be 50 bux... It's all fun and games until you can't feed your family.
     
    One of the reasons Democracies don't last? Is that people learn they can vote themselves benefits from the "public largess..." Then it all spirals down the bowl? It happened in Rome? It's not new, it's happened over and over throughout history. We've been circling the bowl for some time? I fear we are headed for the hole in the middle sooner rather than later :-( 
     
    Too many people in the wagon, and not enough pulling it... (from a puller, not a rider.) I've been pulling that thing since I was 16... (the wagon too.)
     
    Not arguing with anyone's POV, just telling it like it is. Stop me when I start lying. 80 Billion a month? Before you know it, you're talking "real money... ;-) " Robing Peter to pay Paul is all good and well, until it's your Peter... Then it hurts? Too many Pauls, not enough Peters and Mary's.
     
    Good recording BTW.
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    Re: Thorn In The Flesh 2013/11/10 20:37:30 (permalink)
    Robbie, I understand to clearly what you are saying. The hole keeps getting deeper and deeper and if people don't start talking about it and working toward helping to get things right, then it won't matter if your Democrat or republican or what ever, we will all go down the hole together with one big flush. Rome collapsed, Syria collapsed, Greece collapsed and over 21 other known nations. I hope we don't follow suit! Hope you enjoyed the music anyway! By the way, 55 years of 1040 and still from time to time while in my retirement. The wagon is so full today that the sociology class I took 45 years ago, which told us this would all be happening around this time, because of population growth all make sense. Nothing has changed, just the faces.
     
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    Re: Thorn In The Flesh 2013/11/10 20:42:03 (permalink)
    "Deep" "hole" What I say is never difficult to understand, you just need to listen harder? "harder."
    My point is that the USA is like a co-star in a Ron Jeremy film... We're getting pretty much the same treatment IMO.

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    Re: Thorn In The Flesh 2013/11/10 21:07:29 (permalink)
    Invest in metals? Lead and brass? Because "it comes..." I am heavily invested.

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    Re: Thorn In The Flesh 2013/11/10 22:29:11 (permalink)
    Why do you attack me? Of course you meant Obama. You parrot every right wing nut job out there.
     
    I won't argue with ignorance especially when you're mind is already made up. I'm not angry like you. My song I posted IS angry. Come up with facts and not rhetoric and we can have a civil discussion.
     
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    Re: Thorn In The Flesh 2013/11/10 23:45:13 (permalink)
    Guitarpima
    I find it funny that you would say those things. Stop snorting the Koch-aine.

    For the record, you were the one doing the attacking. Nice song John.
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    Re: Thorn In The Flesh 2013/11/11 08:03:22 (permalink)
    I liked the song John.  Nice work! :)

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    Re: Thorn In The Flesh 2013/11/11 12:27:31 (permalink)
    Thanks Robbie, I'll kook in to those metals someday, but at the present time I'm invested in oil and electricity, every time I fill up my car and van and when I pay the electric bill.
     
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    Re: Thorn In The Flesh 2013/11/11 12:29:27 (permalink)
    Guitarpima, Thanks for listening and for your constructive critique, it is always welcomed and very much appreciated.
     
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    Re: Thorn In The Flesh 2013/11/11 13:30:36 (permalink)
    Leadfoot, Thanks for listening and for your comments, they are always much appreciated. Again Thanks!
     
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    Re: Thorn In The Flesh 2013/11/11 22:20:37 (permalink)
    Walt, Thanks for listening and for commenting, it is always appreciated. Glad you like this piece.
     
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    Re: Thorn In The Flesh 2013/11/13 18:00:07 (permalink)
    John, this is a brilliant piece of music.  I marvel at your prolific output.  I know it takes time to write, arrange, and produce a piece of work like this, and you constantly post a ton of material.  I'm retired, yet, I don't have the time to create like this.  Your talent is staggering.

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    Re: Thorn In The Flesh 2013/11/14 00:52:06 (permalink)
    Lynn,
     
    Always a pleasure to hear from you. Your words are always encouraging and are much appreciated. Yes, time!! I do have lots of time during my retirement and I try to spend it well. I did get a chance to take some time off this weekend and took the wife to the beach, painted a beach picture while I was there, with her in it and she enjoyed that, even though she looked funny in the painting. We went to see Thor this evening with a couple of the grandchildren and spent some time going out to eat dinner a couple of times. Tomorrow I have to go help a friend hang and tape some drywall for a couple of days in Tampa, then it's back to my computer to work on another piece of music. Time, where does it all go!! Thanks for listening, your nice comments and your friendship.
     
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    Re: Thorn In The Flesh 2013/11/14 08:14:00 (permalink)
    John, I like the composition. Yeah, that's not a song..... I write songs, that my friend, is a composition, and a mighty fine one at that.  Very well composed and recorded. 
     
     
    Be careful with your commentary.... It's borderline TOS violation concerning the discussion of politics IMHO.... some might even  say it's over the line.
     
    While I agree that a musical composition such as this, with out lyrics to "say something" might need a description as to what the idea behind it was, or is, you must be careful when explaining it so that it doesn't cross those lines set here by the mods to keep this a civil place to hang out and appreciate the music.

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    Re: Thorn In The Flesh 2013/11/16 00:15:07 (permalink)
    Herb, Thanks for listening and for your comments, they are always appreciated and welcomed. I will in the future consider your remarks and keep in mind the policies of this forum. I do believe after reading all that I have written and what is posted under the player on SoundClick, that my message was and always will be faith based, verses political. But, then, there is a fine line in the forum as to a persons beliefs, as well. All the music I create is Christian based and always has a message attached to it, and is the only reason in my life for creating music, at all. It is never intended to sway or entice anyone, only to cause people to take a look at themselves and what is going on around them in this world. It is never intended to hurt anyone or condemn anyone, as I believe people are quite capable of condemning themselves. I am not in any way involved in politics, but I do pay very close attention to a dysfunctional world on many levels. It's just life in general and I speak my mind about my own thoughts and feelings about many matters, in the hopes of a better world and a better life for all. But, I will certainly in the future try to keep things about my music in written form on my SoundClick site only.
     
    Again, thank you for your input and sorry if I have steered up any strife, it had never entered my mind. Again, thanks for your comments.
     
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