Thoughts on a New Song: Wine o'Clock

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2016/10/27 15:59:19 (permalink)

Thoughts on a New Song: Wine o'Clock

OK you seem like a friendly and constructive bunch and I guess there's no point writing these songs if nobody hears them. I'm an occasional songwriter but I've been trying to finish this one for about two years. My piano chops are not the best so - hands up - this is built from EzKeys which will always split opinion but there it is; I'm not trying to dress it up as all my own playing or composition. However the lyrics and other instrumentation are my own hand and I did my best with the vocals (you can only work with what you're given). I was short on time so I know they can be better and yes, appalling mic technique I know. It really needs a female vocalist being a song about a single mum with a drink problem (inspired by a news story about working mums and their wine drinking habits).

Anyway, enough of my rattle, here's the link:

https://soundcloud.com/an...ne-oclock-full-version

All feedback appreciated. Andy

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    ABull
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    Re: Thoughts on a New Song: Wine o'Clock 2016/10/27 16:15:23 (permalink)
    Hey Andy, this is a good demo for your song -- it has a pleasing sound and your use of reverb is fine in your well balanced mix.  And, your vocals sound good, too.  
     
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    post edited by ABull - 2016/11/23 20:19:12
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    Re: Thoughts on a New Song: Wine o'Clock 2016/10/27 17:18:41 (permalink)
    Thanks Allan, you're too kind. Yes reverb and a touch of delay covers a multitude of sins doesn't it. 🎤😊

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    Re: Thoughts on a New Song: Wine o'Clock 2016/10/27 19:22:40 (permalink)
    I like the song. Now turn up the vocals so we can hear the lyrics.
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    Re: Thoughts on a New Song: Wine o'Clock 2016/10/27 22:16:57 (permalink)
    Lyrics seem thoughtful, and I think the vocal performance is a keeper.
     
    You've got the vocals panned pretty hard left? And the piano with chorus stuff panned right, pretty hard?
    You might consider putting the vocals dead center so they can drive this bus.
     
    Drums should come up a tad, particularly the snare. 
     
    I like it! You have done well by this chord progression. I like the fade out, nice touch.
     
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    Re: Thoughts on a New Song: Wine o'Clock 2016/10/28 01:40:48 (permalink)
    @StringJammer - lol I turned them down as I thought the level was too high (and probably because I really don't like listening to my own singing). @Tom Thanks for your observations on the lyrics I do try and make them tell a story. Agree about the pan - that has not come out as I intended - I actually tripled the vocal track and nudged the other two left and right slightly to try and give a more natural feel and used pan to create more width but the result is not as I would have wanted it - that's a good call; I'll lift the snare too.
     
    Thanks all - very much appreciated
     
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    Re: Thoughts on a New Song: Wine o'Clock 2016/10/28 03:03:25 (permalink)
    Try to place drums, bass, vocals in the middle (center).
    Too much side panning is going on...
    This is what I think.
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    Re: Thoughts on a New Song: Wine o'Clock 2016/10/28 08:31:33 (permalink)
    This is a good song, very complete. As a demo, it works, as Allan says, but you can make it better with a remix.
     
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    Re: Thoughts on a New Song: Wine o'Clock 2016/10/28 13:11:40 (permalink)
    A little remix regards the panning and some backing off of the vocal reverb I think you have a winner with this one.
     
    Thanks for sharing.

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    Re: Thoughts on a New Song: Wine o'Clock 2016/10/28 13:58:06 (permalink)
    You guys are the best - I'm going to put all that advice to good use - just hope my production skills are up to the job. Thank you all for taking the time out to review and critique, I really do appreciate the feedback.
     
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    Re: Thoughts on a New Song: Wine o'Clock 2016/10/28 15:18:58 (permalink)
    Vocal is too muffled and waaaaaaaaaay too much reverb (IMO) and I luves me some reverb too.
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    Re: Thoughts on a New Song: Wine o'Clock 2016/10/31 13:46:17 (permalink)
    Ditto to the above on the mix: a little less effect (delay?) on the vocals so that they sit better with less extreme left/right-ness.   I'd personally back the delay on the guitar solo too (which is subjective) and maybe knock off a little hi-mids.   You've got a good song, well worth the effort.  
     

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    Re: Thoughts on a New Song: Wine o'Clock 2016/10/31 16:39:02 (permalink)
    This is such a sad song! But it's an old fashioned country music theme, and I'm not sure who could sing it properly these days, now that the great female singers of the 40s and 50s are gone. That said, extremely well-crafted lyrics. The bridge dives even deeper into sorrow, and I guess I would have wanted it to fly a little bit, at least musically if not in the lyrics. In my opinion the song deserves to be heard.

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    Re: Thoughts on a New Song: Wine o'Clock 2016/11/01 11:20:41 (permalink)
    Larry, as a songwriter, your feedback means a lot. Thanks for taking the time to listen and comment. Andy

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    Re: Thoughts on a New Song: Wine o'Clock 2016/11/01 20:46:51 (permalink)
    Excellent song!  The vocals bring emotion to some very excellent lyrics that tell a good story!  I'm a reverb/delay hog ---so, the verb that you used didn't bother me at all.  However, it would probably be better to take the advice given above by people that know what they are talking about.  Just a wee bit of panning and mix tricks and you definitely have a keeper.
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    Re: Thoughts on a New Song: Wine o'Clock 2017/10/05 21:16:41 (permalink)
    As Focusrite are giving away a couple of free mixes on CloudBounce I thought I'd give it a whirl and see what they could do with this track I posted around a year ago. Now yes I know there is still too much reverb and echo on the vocal for some, but I like it and it covers a multitude of crimes against singing. ;-)
     
    I would remind all that that the piano chops are built from EzKeys and the drums programmed from EzDrummer but the rest is all me and the lyrics are original by me also.
     
    I think I also fixed most of the other suggested improvements from previous comments (or have tried to at least) so re-presented for your delight and critical evaluation I give you: Wine o'Clock 
     
    p.s. and yes I know it's a sad song but a man has to have inspiration from somewhere. 
     
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