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2017/02/03 23:03:48 (permalink)

Time to move on?

Background: Long time customer and have invested a ton of time and money on Cakewalk Sonar and DAW hardware over the years. I have an engineering background and am no stranger to a wide range of software, hardware and operating systems. This last bit is only to suggest that although I make plenty of mistakes, lack of experience is not the main issue.
 
I have found my recording and production progress over the last 6 to 9 months stymied by crashes, predominantly related to Melodyne 4. This week alone, probably 80% of my precious DAW time was spent waiting for reboots, and/or trying to find, fix or avoid potholes.  I am at the end of my rope, and neither Cakewalk nor Celemony seem to be on top of the problem.
 
I have started using a Mac for a local community college music class, and the learning curve for the resident DAW software is pretty easy.  Even though it would be a huge (and expensive) leap, I am considering the move to Mac.  My first preference would be to stay with Sonar on Mac, but the silence about the Mac release is ominous given recent history. 
 
My options appear to be:
1. Grind it out and avoid using Melodyne until Cake/Celemony get it together. 
2. Upgrade to Platinum or whatever current version and hope that fixes it.
3. Jump to Mac and new DAW software. 
 
I don't want to spend more time trying to debug this stuff.  I want to make music.  Given the reputation of the Mac and my recent experience,  option 3 is feeling like a leading candidate.
 
Bottom line is: Cake, I want you to win.  But life is short and I've got to have some sign that the ship is not rudderless. 

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Re: Time to move on? 2017/02/03 23:06:45 (permalink)
There's not a day goes by that something goofy doesn't happen with SPLAT.  Seriously.  

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Re: Time to move on? 2017/02/03 23:08:29 (permalink)
Melodyne 4 came out long after Sonar X3 stopped being updated and supported.
 
Why don't you try a demo of Platinum and see if it works with Melodyne 4?

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Re: Time to move on? 2017/02/03 23:37:41 (permalink)
I worked with Sonar and Melodyne 4 all week on my 8 year old computer.  I auto tuned vocals,  Bass Parts...I scored an opening to a Cable TV show on the Live Well Network where I auto tuned anvil and hammer hits to be in tune with my score.  I edited VO for Accenture Cyber Security and I auto tuned a couple of words to sound more like the way the producer wanted.
knock on wood...it has been a long time since anything crashed. Can't remember.  Protools, however crashed on me last week.
 

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Re: Time to move on? 2017/02/03 23:38:04 (permalink)
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Re: Time to move on? 2017/02/04 00:09:04 (permalink)
I prefer your option #2 (if you're asking) > "Upgrade to Platinum or whatever current version and hope that fixes it."
While I agree that Cakewalk and Melodyne don't always get along perfectly, I have found that in using Sonar Platinum with Melodyne 4 (Editor version), for me there are no showstopper bugs. I've learned what makes it crash, so I don't do that. Yes, Annoying workarounds.
 
I don't mean to diminish your frustration, but you're running Melodyne 4 (the latest version) along with Sonar X3 (an outdated older version) ? Correct ?
 
In your post, you mentioned your exposure to a MAC DAW at a college class . . . but you haven't mentioned if you have a crash free Melodyne experience on this MAC DAW ? Just wondering how they compare for you. If you try the Sonar Platinum demo, perhaps you might be able to see if it's working better on your Windows system.

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Re: Time to move on? 2017/02/04 00:30:29 (permalink)
cwestmont
Background: Long time customer and have invested a ton of time and money on Cakewalk Sonar and DAW hardware over the years. I have an engineering background and am no stranger to a wide range of software, hardware and operating systems. This last bit is only to suggest that although I make plenty of mistakes, lack of experience is not the main issue.
 
I have found my recording and production progress over the last 6 to 9 months stymied by crashes, predominantly related to Melodyne 4. This week alone, probably 80% of my precious DAW time was spent waiting for reboots, and/or trying to find, fix or avoid potholes.  I am at the end of my rope, and neither Cakewalk nor Celemony seem to be on top of the problem.
 
I have started using a Mac for a local community college music class, and the learning curve for the resident DAW software is pretty easy.  Even though it would be a huge (and expensive) leap, I am considering the move to Mac.  My first preference would be to stay with Sonar on Mac, but the silence about the Mac release is ominous given recent history. 
 
My options appear to be:
1. Grind it out and avoid using Melodyne until Cake/Celemony get it together. 
2. Upgrade to Platinum or whatever current version and hope that fixes it.
3. Jump to Mac and new DAW software. 
 
I don't want to spend more time trying to debug this stuff.  I want to make music.  Given the reputation of the Mac and my recent experience,  option 3 is feeling like a leading candidate.
 
Bottom line is: Cake, I want you to win.  But life is short and I've got to have some sign that the ship is not rudderless. 




I'm not sure it's fair to say that "Cakewalk [is not] on top of the problem" if you're still running X3. Is X3 even receiving updates at this juncture? (I ask not to needle, but because I am honestly unaware; if not, it is safe to say that your frustration is at least partially, if not substantially, due to your being on an older piece of software rather than the manufacturer's fault in not attempting to keep the software current.) Rlared. I think, hits the best option on the head when he suggests trying Sonar Platinum. FWIW, I'm also in the category of not being to remember the last time SPlat crashed. It is, of course, a fair question to ask when the point is that a company should choose to stop supporting older s/w, but three-plus years with a new flagship DAW in production for more than a year feels like a safe and ethical place to stop support for an older version.
 
Good luck in your endeavors. 
 
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Re: Time to move on? 2017/02/04 00:34:47 (permalink)
Hi cwestmont,
Just a couple quick points. I use Melodyne 4 all the time with SPLAT and, while I had my share of crashes and weirdness with previous versions, the current setup has been remarkably stable. I work with a ton of DAWs and one of the things that has continually brought be back to Sonar is Melodyne integration. Right now among the DAWs that I use, Sonar has the best integration I've found with Melodyne. Might be worth updating just to see if it solves your problems. It's certainly cheaper than a full platform move.
 
Next, don't discount hardware problems. I have been plagued for years with occasional BSOD's, almost always related to audio. They persisted across multiple sound cards, and even multiple computers. I always ground my teeth and worked through them despite the embarrassment it caused given the number of paying clients I see. A month or two ago I finally upgraded my dedicated audio hard drive because I was running out of space. I had been using this hard drive for years, with every audio computer I've had. Suddenly, the crashes all went away. My system is more stable than it's ever been...not one crash since. All that heartburn, for probably 4 or 5 years, because of what must have been a glitchy audio drive. 
 
I guess what I can tell you is that it can be done. Heaven knows Sonar has some problems (Audiosnap to edit 10 mics on a trap kit...sheesh....I don't even try anymore, just export out to a different DAW and edit there. And let's not even get into how Sonar handles mono external effects), but in my joint, I use Melodyne in Sonar for multiple hours every week and it's been great.
 
There are lots of DAWs and I use most of them from time to time, maybe a different one is better for you, but the Melodyne stuff in Sonar really can work.
 
Good luck,
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Re: Time to move on? 2017/02/04 02:33:26 (permalink)
I agree with the suggestion to try Platinum. You can try the demo version to see if it works for you at no cost, or you can purchase a month by month subscription to get a deeper feel for whether or not it will solve your problems. If it's not for you you're not out a bazillion bucks.
 
I also strongly support the suggestion to check your hardware for issues. The Windows Event Log is a good place to start there. 
 
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Re: Time to move on? 2017/02/04 03:50:49 (permalink)
I've been using Melodyne 4 with great results, although it's the lite version and the editing isn't as involving as some.
I know how frustrating (as many other Cakewalk members) when you have system crash, I've only had "Producer or Platinum" version since Sonar 8.5 but I was also a Protools HD user for many years, very reliable Mac operation.
I recently went through Crashes with Windows 10 Anniv. & Sonar, once I reinstalled "Plug-ins" for the last month has been rock-solid (under many hours of use per day) I really like Sonar and the workflow has been great, look at possible options and Sonar forum is a great resource. 

 
 
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Re: Time to move on? 2017/02/04 04:25:00 (permalink)
Coming from a Roland interface I think that QuadCapture may be part of your poor situation ... I could never obtain full stability while I was still on the Roland audio drivers. While it got somewhat better with Platinum, it only got resolved properly when switching to a different interface brand.
 
Also, X3 is old. Melodyne 4 is new. I even had issues (minor ones, no crashes though) with Platinum and Melodyne 2.x which were much closer in sync ... problems disappeared once I upgraded to Melodyne 4 which seems to go fine with Platinum.

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Re: Time to move on? 2017/02/04 08:26:33 (permalink)
one more vote for Splat.
It´s working flawless in my box except a phase from early Nov -
end dec 16.
I recommend to try the SPLAT demo.
 
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Re: Time to move on? 2017/02/04 09:05:16 (permalink)
One more vote to try Splat demo.  I have not had any problems with Splat and Melodyne editor 4.  I am running the latest release -2017.01 - and on Windows 10.

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Re: Time to move on? 2017/02/04 11:09:39 (permalink)
The only issue I've had with Melodyne is if I have too many unrendered clips, so I got into rendering after tweaking.
 
The Roland drivers could also be an issue. I had lots of problems with the Octa-Capture and Windows 7. Those problems went away when I updated to Windows 10 and got Splatified. I do think the Windows 10/Splat combo is optimum. 
 
As to the Mac, yes it works but there are no guarantees. A person I collaborate with musically got fed up with the Mac and two DAWs he ran on it (he ran two because one crashed all the time), took the leap to Windows and SONAR, and never looked back.
 
 
 
 

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Re: Time to move on? 2017/02/04 12:38:48 (permalink)
You're experiencing crashes and reliability issues with your Sonar install. So you're comparing your Sonar experience to your recent experience using some other software on a Mac and based on that, you're considering making the jump to Mac, the perception being the Mac is a more reliable platform.
 
That's fine, but you might want to look hard at your study design before you go making any conclusions based on results.
 
How old DAW software you're running at home. How old are the plugs you're running at home. When was the last time you did a complete hard drive wipe/clean install of your software?
 
 
How old is the DAW software running on the Mac? How old are the plugs running on Mac? When was the last time that Mac saw a complete hard drive wipe/clean install of its software?
 
When the answers to all those questions match exactly, then and only then will you be able to determine if the Mac is the better platform for what you're trying to do.
 
 

 
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Re: Time to move on? 2017/02/04 15:54:32 (permalink)
I don't know your budget or the upgrade cost, but a onetime purchase to the lifetime Platinum seemed like a no-brainer to me. It's always there for projects if I need it at no further cost, no matter what else I use.
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Re: Time to move on? 2017/02/04 16:12:32 (permalink)
There is always two sides to the story. I recently got an iMac and have been setting it up with audio software. Currently I am running the Windows version of Studio One but installed the Mac version and I must say it is all working pretty well. It works flawlessly with Melodyne on the Win setup and the same on the Mac machine.
 
It also sounds like it can run well with Sonar too so maybe look into trouble shooting a bit perhaps. Melodyne should basically never crash and simply be pulled in when needed and put back in the background when not. I also like to render parts once I am happy with them after Melodyne has been applied. keeping the original files of course.

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Re: Time to move on? 2017/02/04 22:11:55 (permalink)
I like Cakewalk and have no plans to change; but *IF* I changed, it would be to Logic Pro on Mac.

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Re: Time to move on? 2017/02/05 10:06:08 (permalink)
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There's not a day goes by that something goofy doesn't happen with SPLAT.  Seriously.  




Why is that the case?

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Re: Time to move on? 2017/02/05 10:51:52 (permalink)
FWIW - A friend of mine got tired of the problems he was having with Windows, virus protection and such so he sold everything and bought a Mac.  He was bragging to everyone about the ease of using it and the fact that it was so safe to use on-line.  About 8 months later he was crying the blues.  He got a virus and loss all of his programs and data. He didn't think that he needed any backups with a Mac.
 
Moral of the story is the old "the grass looks greener on the other side" ain't necessarily true.
 
 

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Re: Time to move on? 2017/02/05 10:56:10 (permalink)
There s little point staying on X3 and hoping things will change - there will be no more updates there! Definitely give Splat on a clean install of windows 10 a try though. I have no issues at all running Melodyne 4 Studio. That said, I do tend to bounce melodyne tracks once I am done editing. 
 
I have run DAW's and editing software on both Mac and PC. In my experience, Sonar on a well set up PC is easily as stable as anything on a Mac. That's not to say that other software doesn't have its strengths over Sonar and vice versa. It's just that once set up properly there really is little difference in stability.

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Re: Time to move on? 2017/02/05 11:19:09 (permalink)
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FWIW - A friend of mine got tired of the problems he was having with Windows, virus protection and such so he sold everything and bought a Mac.  He was bragging to everyone about the ease of using it and the fact that it was so safe to use on-line.  About 8 months later he was crying the blues.  He got a virus and loss all of his programs and data. He didn't think that he needed any backups with a Mac.
 
Moral of the story is the old "the grass looks greener on the other side" ain't necessarily true.
 


Acquiring a virus on a Mac or any other Unix-like system is pretty difficult to do if you follow even basic security principles such as not explicitly giving something permission to run its installer if you don't know what it is. Of course, if you disregard basic stuff like giving administrator accounts passwords you'll quite likely end up in a mess. And the same applies to Windows. If you're one of those people who thinks system alerts are a silly nuisance and just hits 'yes' every time a pop-up asks for your permission to do something whether you know what that something is or not then be prepared for trouble.

And not backing data up to a different drive to the one it normally resides on, and ideally not even an integral part of the same computer, is just plain stupid no matter what OS or hardware you have. Nothing is immune to hardware failure.

I guess some people learn from other people's descriptions of what went wrong for them or can go wrong and take steps to avoid it happening to them. And some people just have to learn the hard way.

Macs come with a very good backup system, Time Machine, that runs automatically unless the user switches it off. Though the way it works can be intrusive for audio/video work, in which case the free Time Machine Editor program which enables Tome Machine scheduling comes in handy.

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Re: Time to move on? 2017/02/05 11:25:21 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Brando 2017/02/05 12:51:53
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I have run DAW's and editing software on both Mac and PC. In my experience, Sonar on a well set up PC is easily as stable as anything on a Mac. That's not to say that other software doesn't have its strengths over Sonar and vice versa. It's just that once set up properly there really is little difference in stability.


I'm primarily a Mac user, and I agree with you. Logic crashed on me yesterday. Doesn't happen often, and like Sonar when it does the culprit is often a third-party plugin, Amplitube being the culprit yesterday.

The advantage Macs have is that they come from the factory configured to pretty much "just work" with low-latency audio while most PCs don't. I happen to prefer MacOS to Windows, but that's a matter of personal preference and might be due to me for some reason finding Unix type systems easier to manage.

The advantages PCs have over Macs is price and the amount of sheer power you get for that price.

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Re: Time to move on? 2017/02/05 11:32:25 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby tlw 2017/02/05 23:56:28
eph221
There's not a day goes by that something goofy doesn't happen with SPLAT.  Seriously.  



If the problem was the software, then others would have the same experience. Yet many people, myself included, find SONAR reliable and stable. So, you need to find out what about your computer environment is different from the ones where SONAR works fine.
 
This doesn't mean other programs won't work properly in the same environment. Then again you could have SONAR work properly, and others do something "goofy." 
 
Software exists within a system and is heavily dependent upon that system. That is the case with both Mac and Windows. However, Apple exercises much tighter control over their system which is one of the reasons you pay a premium. Windows provides much greater choice and more power at a lower cost, but the tradeoff is having to optimize the system for your particular task at hand.

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Re: Time to move on? 2017/02/05 12:05:23 (permalink)
You pay more for a Mac because they don't let third-party people make hardware for them. They are stringent with their hardware, and the customer pays for it, but it insures it is solid.
 
Now, what a lot of people LOVE to do in a Windows environment, is to cheap out on a motherboard and/or other components. The components aren't vigorously tested, and the drivers aren't well-written nor updated.
 
Then people wonder why they don't work well! Apply the same principle with an audio interface.
 
I'm not saying this OP is doing that. but I've seen it on this forum HUNDREDS of times through the year. When you deal with programs that need the lowest latency, you have to insure you have quality parts!
 
You get what you pay for. My box in my signature is home-built with quality components, and been solid for YEARS.
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Re: Time to move on? 2017/02/05 12:07:25 (permalink)
That is not including defects/flaws in software/configuration/parts ...which can drive one batty (I think all the forum people who have been for years have gone through it). I don't want to discount the OP, but I use Melodyne a bunch and have no issue ...but I use it in bite-size morsels, and never have had an issue.
 

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Re: Time to move on? 2017/02/05 14:14:31 (permalink)
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FWIW - A friend of mine got tired of the problems he was having with Windows, virus protection and such so he sold everything and bought a Mac.  He was bragging to everyone about the ease of using it and the fact that it was so safe to use on-line.  About 8 months later he was crying the blues.  He got a virus and loss all of his programs and data. He didn't think that he needed any backups with a Mac.
 
Moral of the story is the old "the grass looks greener on the other side" ain't necessarily true.
 


Acquiring a virus on a Mac or any other Unix-like system is pretty difficult to do if you follow even basic security principles such as not explicitly giving something permission to run its installer if you don't know what it is. Of course, if you disregard basic stuff like giving administrator accounts passwords you'll quite likely end up in a mess. And the same applies to Windows. If you're one of those people who thinks system alerts are a silly nuisance and just hits 'yes' every time a pop-up asks for your permission to do something whether you know what that something is or not then be prepared for trouble.

And not backing data up to a different drive to the one it normally resides on, and ideally not even an integral part of the same computer, is just plain stupid no matter what OS or hardware you have. Nothing is immune to hardware failure.

I guess some people learn from other people's descriptions of what went wrong for them or can go wrong and take steps to avoid it happening to them. And some people just have to learn the hard way.

Macs come with a very good backup system, Time Machine, that runs automatically unless the user switches it off. Though the way it works can be intrusive for audio/video work, in which case the free Time Machine Editor program which enables Tome Machine scheduling comes in handy.



I agree.  I wasn't trying to be down on Macs.  If you or anyone else got that impression I apologize.
 
My point was if you are on-line you not only have to be careful you also need backups.  He got a false sense of security purchasing a Mac.  Safer yes but infallible no.  He is one person whom should not have a computer.

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Re: Time to move on? 2017/02/05 18:21:48 (permalink)
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Coming from a Roland interface I think that QuadCapture may be part of your poor situation ... I could never obtain full stability while I was still on the Roland audio drivers. While it got somewhat better with Platinum, it only got resolved properly when switching to a different interface brand.
 
Also, X3 is old. Melodyne 4 is new. I even had issues (minor ones, no crashes though) with Platinum and Melodyne 2.x which were much closer in sync ... problems disappeared once I upgraded to Melodyne 4 which seems to go fine with Platinum.


This has been my experience as well. QuadCapture now sits on my system and is used for 
Windows sounds, playing net music, mp3's, wave files etc via my stereo. I had never-ending issues whilst using it with X3 and then Sonar. Once I made the investment to a RME audio interface, things became much more stable, although not perfect but I don't think it'll ever be totally flawless.
 
I'm on the latest Spat and it's proving to be very reliable. I still get weird overloads on occasion when I place plug-ins on a bus but it's something I workaround and for the most part, I'm getting hours and hours of stability...which means making and mixing music. :-)

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Re: Time to move on? 2017/02/05 19:28:31 (permalink)
No problems with latest versions of SPLAT and Melodyne 4 Editor.  Like Craig and many others have said, just remember to render as you go when you're done editing a Melodyne region clip.  Of course, always keep a safe copy of your original audio track so you can go back if the singer prefers his out-of-tune vocal.

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Re: Time to move on? 2017/02/05 20:16:18 (permalink)
Well the OP wandered off, I guess they are out busy shopping for a Mac.
 
I put my money on the Roland... Certainly won't be very happy plugged into a Mac either.

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