Timing off when using Punch in recording. Help!

Looping & punching at the same time should work PROVIDED your loop & punch start/stop points are exactly the same.

I've had this myself.

DeeringAmps : "IF you loop and punch, each successive "Punch" will get placed later and later. "

Is this a bug (wouldn't be the only looping bug) or is there a logical reason for it ?

I don't see why multiple passes should be any different than a single pass ?

Have effects/ plugin causing latency on the inputs?   I also have all bins turned off while recording  Use the FX button for that

THe one thing you did not mention in the computer beast...... what soundcard is being used? 

It used to be that loop recording in ASIO was broken (gaps at the loop end) and it's now probably fixed. But now punch-in along with loop is broken, so it can't be used for looping purposes. Haven't heard anyone say it's acceptable or intended.

He has a Focusrite 56 Saffire. Firewire.
The thing is... We use to punch in record on Sonar Producer 8.5 with no problem. We would do 50-60 punch in takes of me doing a different riff on each take and it would line up perfectly.... Not with Sonar X2!

Yes, this is the same issue we are having...it seems that maybe the first 3-5 takes are in perfect timing...after that...each take moves further and further off.

Thanks for answering the questions lovelife, it sure seems like you had a handle on all that stuff.

Hi Tom, wow, I hadn't heard of it yet. It sounds nasty too.

Is it also happening with non ASIO drivers? I have had a long standing observation that when I loop record in SONAR the clip is not as long as the loop. There is a very small gap, just a few samples. The timing of a loop is fine but if you make it into a groove loop and drag out a length of groove clips the timing will slowly drift by the length of the "gap" and it accumulates. I have been been asking for that bug to get fixed for years and years. It's still there in 8.5.3

I wonder if this is somehow related. Maybe that little gap is showing up in the punches as well?

I never saw it with WDM just ASIO on my MOTU stuff. I don't think it happened on every bodies ASIO gear, but back when I had hopes for a fix a lot of folks checked and confirmed they could see the gap when they zoomed in 100%.

Anyways.

Sorry for the distraction with the questions.


best regards,
mike

in your windows audio settings make sure playback and record advanced settings for sample rate and bit depth are set to the same values.  this was a known issue with early win 7 and might be a part of the problem.  apparently rogue poorly coded programs would use the audio drivers but not reset the sample rates when finished.  might be worth a look.