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Tip Jar
Chords are a cool thing on guitar. Joe pass called his chords "grips" and I can see why. 1.) Take 3 or 4 note 7th chords and play thru a 12/16 bar progression. The point is stamina. Play it as long as you can till you forearm starts cramping up. Take note of when you first started feeling discomfort and mark that time. Do it using a bossa or swing rhythm. You don't need any accompaniment but I suggest at lease a metronome. That time you noted is your practice time. Once a day for that time period. 2.) For chords you feel unfamiliar with there is a way you can make them easier to master. Take the form you have problems with and form the chord but hold it for 30 seconds and release. Make sure you're not using too much muscle power to hold the notes down. Shake it off and do it again. In no time that chord form will no longer be a problem * this is a stamina exercise. It is intended to give you freedom to play without muscle fatigue. Don't complicate it or waste time by analyzing it or over thinking it. DO it and you're done  My routine for today goes like this; 1 chord per beat - G^9 - G6 - E9 -E7b9 - A13 - A7 - D9 - D7b9 - G^7 - G6 then repeat. Modulate to Bb then to Eb till you complete the cycle of 5ths. Once you have what you want to play you're exercise is ready to use. Do it at least 6 weeks P.S. an excellent book on this subject was published called Jazz Guitar Vol.2 by Ronny Lee Mel Bay I think
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Re: Tip Jar
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☄ Helpfulby bayoubill 2016/07/10 15:07:39
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Re: Tip Jar
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☄ Helpfulby bayoubill 2016/07/10 15:06:56
I like C-Am-F-G I think I can make a hit out of it.
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If you don't do as Bapu I and says your kids get one of these! 
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Chords are a cool thing on guitar. Joe pass called his chords "grips" and I can see why.
1.) Take 3 or 4 note 7th chords and play thru a 12/16 bar progression. The point is stamina. Play it as long as you can till you forearm starts cramping up.
After not playing for a few years, I tried this on Friday and the pain point could be noted in measures not minutes!  I like these routines and tips though, keep 'em comin' Bill!  Joe Pass, king of the partial chord. It should be noted that I can play Am for hours on end! 
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(.)<---non-controversial period about practicing with poor L.H technique!
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Re: Tip Jar
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☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2016/07/11 09:28:20
After not playing for a few years, I tried this on Friday and the pain point could be noted in measures not minutes
It's a stamina thing at first. You have to do it in bits and then put what you can do together
All the chords are shown above.
try this Craig - play G Maj 7 4 beats followed by D9 four beats and repeat till you feel it. Stop for 30 sec and do it again. Then add C9 to the progression etc. till you've built a I VI II7 V7 in the key. Next step is to sub Maj 6 chords for Maj 7 chord and Dom7b9 for Dom 9
Ex. G^7 - G^6 - D9 - D7b9
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Re: Tip Jar
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☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2016/07/11 09:28:22
I VI II V7 I I7 to new key which in this case would be where the V7 chord was going
Ex. G^7 G^6 E7#9 E7b7 A7b5 A7 D9 D7b9 G^7(or^6) G7 new key
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Re: Tip Jar
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☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2016/07/11 09:28:26
Eventually work up to 4 times thru the circle of 5ths and that will keep your chord chops in good working order. It's doesn't take long and I do it every morning as a warm up
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Re: Tip Jar
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☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2016/07/11 09:28:30
The goal is to repeat the exercise with 1 chord per beat thru the cycle 4 times at a moderate speed. That will take time but if you hang in there,even if it's only 5 minutes, you WILL benefit from it. Once it becomes a daily routine you will see a huge jump in the strength and dexterity of your fingers
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I'll see how it works once I have a guitar again (looking like about two weeks).
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Excellent stuff Bill......you've laid out some things that I should be doing regularly, but AM too lazy to look up. Bookmarking this page as I type and will be referring to it regularly. 
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Hi,
I gotta figure out how to do that on a bass ... maybe next lifetime!
Music is not about notes and chords! My poem is not about the computer or monitor or letters! It's about how I was able to translate it from my insides!
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Re: Tip Jar
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☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2016/07/11 10:42:24
Two great fretting hand exercises I used to do:
1) Place the fingers on the top 4 strings on consecutive frets, i.e. 1st finger on 9th fret of the high E, 2nd finger on 10th fret of the B, 3rd finger on 11th fret of the G, 4th finger on 12th fret of the D. Always keeping all other fingers on the notes, move the 1st finger down a fret, then the 2nd finger down a fret, then the 3rd and 4th until you have the original shape but one fret down. Sound the chord at each step to make sure all notes are fingered properly. Work your way down the fretboard like this. It gets progressively harder but is great for strength and dexterity.
2) Place the fingers on 4 consecutive frets of the same string. Start with the A string. While keeping the 3rd and 4th fingers on the string, alternative the 1st and 2nd fingers between the next highest and lowest strings, then switch them (so they're skipping back and forth over the original string). Sound the notes at each step. Expand the width of the movement by moving one string further each time, i.e. the next string up and the next string down (where there is one). By the end, the fingers will be alternating over the full width of the fretboard while the other two remain pressed down. Try it on different strings, with different pairs of fingers, always holding the unused fingers down. This is an amazing exercise for finger independence and dexterity.
3) Take a double page of a broadsheet newspaper in one hand and crush it into a ball. Repeat with other hand. Excellent strength/grip exercise.
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Hi,
Wow ... I gotta use 4 fingers on a bass?
Music is not about notes and chords! My poem is not about the computer or monitor or letters! It's about how I was able to translate it from my insides!
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Hi,
Wow ... I gotta use 4 fingers on a bass?
I notice right hand technique for bass is very close to classical and the exercises are the same. A lot of bass players do the same right hand arp exercises as I do(did). Very cool AND they had 4 fingers on EACH hand too!
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Two great fretting hand exercises I used to do:
1) Place the fingers on the top 4 strings on consecutive frets, i.e. 1st finger on 9th fret of the high E, 2nd finger on 10th fret of the B, 3rd finger on 11th fret of the G, 4th finger on 12th fret of the D. Always keeping all other fingers on the notes, move the 1st finger down a fret, then the 2nd finger down a fret, then the 3rd and 4th until you have the original shape but one fret down. Sound the chord at each step to make sure all notes are fingered properly. Work your way down the fretboard like this. It gets progressively harder but is great for strength and dexterity.
2) Place the fingers on 4 consecutive frets of the same string. Start with the A string. While keeping the 3rd and 4th fingers on the string, alternative the 1st and 2nd fingers between the next highest and lowest strings, then switch them (so they're skipping back and forth over the original string). Sound the notes at each step. Expand the width of the movement by moving one string further each time, i.e. the next string up and the next string down (where there is one). By the end, the fingers will be alternating over the full width of the fretboard while the other two remain pressed down. Try it on different strings, with different pairs of fingers, always holding the unused fingers down. This is an amazing exercise for finger independence and dexterity.
3) Take a double page of a broadsheet newspaper in one hand and crush it into a ball. Repeat with other hand. Excellent strength/grip exercise.
Excellent exercises Sharke! If you have problems reaching notes with your left hand and you haven't worked these before be sure to check them out thoroughly!!! It will give you the ability to play 2 positions at the same time without discomfort. Any technical exercise should be given 6 weeks to achieve improvement. It takes time for physical changes in your hands and coordination so be patient for results.
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Anyone truly interested in this should copy the chords I posted above and learn them. They work in rock, country, forum monkeys. (edited)
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Anyone truly interested in this should copy the chords I posted above and learn them. They work in rock, country, whatever.
Are the Forum Monkeys a whatever band? 
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Great thread! Bookmarked! I think it should be moved to the Techniques subforum, though.
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bayoubill
Anyone truly interested in this should copy the chords I posted above and learn them. They work in rock, country, whatever.
Are the Forum Monkeys a whatever band?
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Great thread! Bookmarked! I think it should be moved to the Techniques subforum, though.
I thought about that but it said the coffee house was for music related issues and the techniques forum was for recording issues
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Another classic fingering exercise is the tricky change from the maj7 to 6th chords that's on the first page of Mickey Baker's Complete Course In Jazz Guitar. I'm sure anyone who has the book knows what I mean lol!
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Great thread! Bookmarked! I think it should be moved to the Techniques subforum, though.
I was thinking of the Techniques forum as recording and using Sonar There's a Techniques subforum? I don't see a subforum anywhereif not, that's a great idea
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A tips forum with sub forums. Who chooses the sub forums? members? moderators? forum monkeys?
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Moshkito
Hi,
Wow ... I gotta use 4 fingers on a bass?
I notice right hand technique for bass is very close to classical and the exercises are the same. A lot of bass players do the same right hand arp exercises as I do(did). Very cool AND they had 4 fingers on EACH hand too!
Ok OK ... I printed this out and plan on taking a shot at it. I go so much by the sound of it all, and sometimes I don't even know what/which note it is at all, but I always am able to add a contrast to the moment or two here and there. Might as well learn the scales ... someday!
Music is not about notes and chords! My poem is not about the computer or monitor or letters! It's about how I was able to translate it from my insides!
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