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Re: Tired of feeling like I have to make excuses for being a Sonar user...
2017/03/04 00:43:36
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Bristol_Jonesey Yes, the comment from bobernaut "what they think is so great about Pro Tools, and they usually just say, "Its just better" reeks of the same terminology used by Apple iTards. Fact is, iOS DOESN'T "just work" and neither does PT Exactly. The last time someone said "and I plugged the mic into the Mac because it sounds better" and I then asked "Okay, tell me why the mic sounds better plugged into a Mac" and the response was "Two words: driver latency". I nearly spit coffee all over the keyboard. And it was a $200 mic with USB output (so, built in A/D). No offense intended to users of those kind of mics -- I only mention it to say that he wasn't using a hallmark mic to test "Mac vs. PC". ObOT: I know at least one studio owner that has Pro Tools "because too many of my customers ask if I have it so I have to be able to say yes", but he never uses it. Chris
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NotASpeckOfCereal
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2017/03/04 00:46:28
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joeb1cannoli How many guitarists play Strats because of Jimi Hendrix or Les Pauls because of Jimmy Page.
An old usenet saying: "Jimmy Page sold a lot of Les Paul's playing a Tele." Chris
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NotASpeckOfCereal
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2017/03/04 00:48:55
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McMoore11 Btw, I started on Cakewalk Pro.
I think I started before Pro came out, when it was just called Cakewalk and the company was named Twelve Tone Systems. It was long before Sonar. Chris
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NotASpeckOfCereal
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2017/03/04 00:52:45
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☄ Helpfulby Kamikaze 2017/03/04 01:01:39
"That's a great photograph -- what camera took that picture?!"
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Re: Tired of feeling like I have to make excuses for being a Sonar user...
2017/03/04 02:24:20
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NotASpeckOfCereal ObOT: I know at least one studio owner that has Pro Tools "because too many of my customers ask if I have it so I have to be able to say yes", but he never uses it.
ObOT? Whut's that then?
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Re: Tired of feeling like I have to make excuses for being a Sonar user...
2017/03/04 02:29:33
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Friends, all of our DAW inquiry conversations must go like this: THEM: Hey, what DAW are you using to record that? YOU: If I told you, I would have to kill you. THEM: [takes a step back] On the other hand, you might have an exchange that goes like this: THEM: Hey, what DAW are you using to record that? YOU: If I told you, I would have to kill you. THEM: Oh, you use SONAR too? Awesome! [high-fives]
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NotASpeckOfCereal
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2017/03/04 02:40:57
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JohanSebatianGremlin ObOT? Whut's that then?
Ob = Obligatory OT = On Topic Because the main part of my reply was OFF topic (going off on a Mac vs. PC tangent) from the original post, I finished my post with something that was relatively ON topic, Pro Tools (vs. Sonar). It being obligatory to you depends on how closely you adhere to the posting etiquette of staying at least somewhat on topic, being respectful to the original poster. Chris
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2017/03/04 03:25:47
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Ah, thanks for the clarification. FWIW I used to run into the same thing when I was working as a computer repair tech. People would ask if I had MCSE certs because at tee time, MCSE certification was being heavily advertised in mainstream media and thus was the ONLY certification layman knew existed. And then I would have to explain that an MCSE cert for the most part qualifies one to properly configure and maintain a Microsoft Server environment and administer the group policy settings associated with that environment. At which point I would then ask are you calling me to fix your home computer via my yellow pages ad because you need someone to properly configure the group policy settings on your Microsoft Server? In their perception, the measure of any computer tech worth his salt was having an MCSE cert because the MCSE cert was the only cert they had ever heard of. Today for your typical hack musician, the measure of any studio worth its salt is whether or not said studio has pro tools because pro tools is the only DAW your average hack musician has ever heard of.
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Re: Tired of feeling like I have to make excuses for being a Sonar user...
2017/03/04 15:02:45
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PJH I have to say that I'm becoming a bit pi**ed off at the general perception of SONAR.
Sounds to me like you care about what other people think. Eliminate that and the problem is gone. :-)
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@Peter nice music and clean, powerful mix! I really like the drums. Why has there not been an update to MIDI? It's in everything! pTools was there first (does not make it better) but it's everywhere. Time travel to the past: It's like the PC vs Mac (I started with Macs) Mac's were implemented in the education system first. PC were Frankenstein DIY monsters with no driver compatibility. You could build your own PC but not guarantee drivers, software and Hardware would work. That eventually changed and the past 5 years have been mostly great for comparability. PT was a complete package including preamps. SONAR was still not marketed very well and not in as many studios. My friend and I used PT for Voice-over work in the studio, but I edited all the files in SONAR, I hated pTools editing. I've continued using Cakewalk 3.0 - SONAR X4 PT. Also Cakewalk support is very helpful!
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2017/03/04 18:10:38
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Steve_Karl
PJH I have to say that I'm becoming a bit pi**ed off at the general perception of SONAR.
Sounds to me like you care about what other people think. Eliminate that and the problem is gone. :-)
unfortunately it isnt always that easy. not if you are trying to make some income doing this stuff. If your client base is under the assumption that you use 'inferior gear'.... then it can be hard to convince them otherwise even if you yourself know better and dont care. I for one would like the perception to change, because I dont have any desires to use anything else. I'm with sonar because I really enjoy working in it. Id hate to feel like I was pressured to change if I ever started trying to escalate this whole gig to a higher level solely due to perception
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Re: Tired of feeling like I have to make excuses for being a Sonar user...
2017/03/04 20:30:47
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Rob[atSound-Rehab] It's all about perception IMHO. pro tools is what you typically find in a big name studio (the few that are left). Sonar typically resides on a laptop in a corner of a bedroom. That's the perception, but evidence that it's not far from the truth is given by Cakewalk themselves, see eZine 2016.08 ... which was a fairly striking revelation: top 2 are non-interfaces, #3 and #4 are consumer interfaces with plenty of documented quirks, pro audio interfaces come in at #5 and thereafter (I wish they would have listed percentages) #1: ASIO4ALL ASIO4ALL was used for far more sessions than any other output option. Maybe it’s because a lot of people are using laptops, or maybe it’s because they don’t have a proper interface, but suffice it to say no one expected that ASIO4ALL would hit #1. #2: Realtek High Definition Speakers Yes, this option is #2 and begs the same questions as above. Maybe this is a laptop world. #3: Focusrite USB 2.0 Audio Driver When it comes to actual audio interfaces, Focusrite rules with more “output share” than any other audio interface. But nipping on its heels, you’ll find.... #4: Roland Octa-Series Interfaces These hardy perennials continue to be the interface of choice for quite a few SONARians. #5: RME Fireface USB Whether analog, SDPIF, or ADAT outputs, the FireFace is a workhorse—in fact Fireface fans are the most prolific users of the ADAT outputs. (However note that overall, the USB flavor predominates: Cakewalk Analytics confirm that FireWire is definitely in its twilight years, at least for SONAR users.( #6: MOTU MOTU’s line of interfaces holds a solid position in the middle of the pack, particularly in terms of audio outputs although there are quite a few people using S/PDIF outputs as well.
Good points! Maybe this is a laptop world? It's certainly become more of a mobile oriented world. Look at how the media promotes mobile DJ/producers, or anybody making music with a computer. They are using laptop rigs, many on Macbook Pros. I think the younger crowd is not buying desktop workstations any more. Sales figures for these are way down. So the public perception is probably based on the wide range of performance (or lack of) using a laptop and the associated DAW software, as compared to a "Professional" studio. Sonar marketing needs to step up. If a few of those big name producers were to successfully use Sonar on a Macbook, or in their studio, then maybe the perception of being the "other" brand that folks only use in bedroom studios would change a bit?
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2017/03/04 21:05:12
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Steve_Karl Sounds to me like you care about what other people think. Eliminate that and the problem is gone. :-)
The guy walking around Walmart in a tutu and bedroom slippers obviously doesn't care what other people think. Which works great for all involved right up until that guy decides he wants to work with other people on a project, then not so much.
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2017/03/04 22:56:17
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Anderton
The Grim as to the pro tools boasting about track freeze yada yada, you might say sonar is now boasting about ripple editing, but wait on reaper has had that for years, see what i mean? so what? sonar users also made a big who har about the new routing in sonar, reaper has had superior routing than sonar for years, and some would say still has, so what? (i'm no pro tools fan, and reaper isn't my main daw, just saying)
Then again, people aren't going into Reaper forums or Pro Tools forums and saying "Why don't you guys have Mix Recall? Why do I have to pay $300 for a vocal alignment tool when SONAR has one built in? SONAR does DSD import/export, I deal with Japanes clients, when are you guys going to get with the program? Why do I have to record an entire session at 96 kHz just to make two or three synths sound better...SONAR has had that for two years? Why do your programs do such a crappy job of importing Acidized files? And why can't you edit them to make them better? Why don't you have ARA integration, like SONAR and Studio One? Why isn't your Drum Replacer as good as SONAR's? SONAR's step sequencer has all these automatable functions, why don't you? And why do I have to ReWire Live into your program - SONAR has a Matrix view? I can't generate tab from your program, either. I still have DirectX plug-ins, SONAR lets me use them and you guys don't?" When you look at it from this perspective, I think Cakewalk has done a terrible marketing job of SONAR's advantages. So there are all these people who don't use SONAR doing negative marketing, and SONAR users doing positive marketing because they really like the program - but only in this forum, because they're too busy making music to go into other forums and complain about what other programs don't do that SONAR does 
Well said Craig, and I'll be happily using Sonar 'til it might change it's name and you listed many of its greatest strengths. I have no doubt much negativity about Sonar are Mac users, but it still puts off many new users in general. It's the simple things that I think gnaw at most new users... and as a longtime & grateful user I still understand what they're saying. I've never thought about buying another daw before (as I am a hobbyist and don't play live.  ) but I'm going to do so now because it's just so easy to use. Secondary daw because of ease of use, and yet I've been a CW user since '96. I think that's the biggest challenge CW faces, but if they think it's a great idea to go for Apple guys who can buy Logic for very cheap, I wish them & us well as always.
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Re: Tired of feeling like I have to make excuses for being a Sonar user...
2017/03/04 23:31:33
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[deleted] Duplicate post. My earlier post was eaten by the forum software and has been restored from the trash bin.
post edited by abacab - 2017/03/06 01:36:18
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2017/03/05 06:17:49
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Steve_Karl
PJH I have to say that I'm becoming a bit pi**ed off at the general perception of SONAR.
Sounds to me like you care about what other people think. Eliminate that and the problem is gone. :-)
I don't care what individuals think of SONAR, but I have to admit, I get rather bothered whenever magazines, blog posts or videos mention a bunch of DAWs and SONAR doesn't even get mentioned. i.e., "Digital audio workstation software like ProTools, Logic, Cubase or Ableton Live..."
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2017/03/05 15:52:54
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Zargg When people ask which DAW I use and answer SONAR, I usually get "the look". Then they ask why, and if it is any good. I just say have you tried it lately? You should. All the best.
"Ohhh!, you dont use Pro Tools?" is one remark I remember, along with "the look" LOL. Im guessing their marketing strategy was to more or less give their product away to colleges and learning institutions, thereby establishing themselves as an Industry "Standard", and it seems to have worked well for them. Not to knock either, as while Ive never even tried ProTools, a lot of generalized mixing/mastering tutorials Ive watched they're using ProTools, and in regards to some of the built in utilities or menu options, Ive found myself saying, I wish I could do that, or had that menu choice in Sonar, (albeit there's probably a way to "do it yourself" in Sonar). Not having used ProTools, I guess I cant say anything from the opposite perspective, but from Sonar posts there seems to be a lot of things in Sonar you cant, or as easily do in ProTools. Im wondering if its a fair analogy to say, I can go shopping at Walmart and get pretty much anything I may need all in one store, and have a standard shopping experience, or I can to a "Mega-mall", and have many more choice options and have a more diversified shopping experience, and many more lunch choices other than McDonald's, LOL. Cheers
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Re: Tired of feeling like I have to make excuses for being a Sonar user...
2017/03/05 16:39:01
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The available tutorials is also a big influence. In addition to Pro Tools, it seems that Ableton Live has good coverage as well. Both of these products are cross platform, so they reach a broader user base. And just think, Ableton Live Lite is given away with just about every Akai, Alesis, and M-Audio controller sold today. So it's also a cross platform issue, in addition to marketing and education/training. Being "Windows only" is a tough spot in the music business ... especially if you want to give your software away, it probably needs to be cross platform today. So I am a Windows only user, and Sonar does 90% of what I want. I am happy with that. Just looking at the big picture here ... I really don't care what people think either
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Re: Tired of feeling like I have to make excuses for being a Sonar user...
2017/03/05 17:08:39
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Years ago, my first DAW was Tracktion2. I made an entire album with it. Then it all went quiet and there were no updates. It withered on the vine, I gave up and started using Sonar. Smart move, I've never looked back. I guess my fear is that if Sonar continue to ignore marketing, it will eventually go the same way.
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A good producer can make a hit record with Sonar, ProTools, Logic Pro X, Cubase, Studio One, or any other professional DAW. I bought Sonar because it had more features and was bundled with more plugins. This forum is a pretty good reason, too.
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2017/03/06 00:16:23
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Steve_Karl
PJH I have to say that I'm becoming a bit pi**ed off at the general perception of SONAR.
Sounds to me like you care about what other people think. Eliminate that and the problem is gone. :-)
POST OF THE WEEK. Once again anyone buying music could care less what DAW is used. How many leave the arena because Deadmau5 or Armin van Buuren isn't using Pro Tools?
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2017/03/06 00:17:26
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The coolest thing about Sonar is you can audition synths by using midi files.
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2017/03/06 01:13:40
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konradh A good producer can make a hit record with Sonar, ProTools, Logic Pro X, Cubase, Studio One, or any other professional DAW. I bought Sonar because it had more features and was bundled with more plugins. This forum is a pretty good reason, too.
. Nicely said! I went to a Recording 101 seminar last week (I'm new to the world of DAWs, Im an analog guy from way back) the instructor said he liked to show his clients that he had Pro Tools, then he would usually use Cubase. Interestingly enough, he used Sonar Platinum in his presentation! How many people also have to apologize for using Presonus?
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2017/03/06 04:53:10
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Chris J I went to a Recording 101 seminar last week (I'm new to the world of DAWs, Im an analog guy from way back) the instructor said he liked to show his clients that he had Pro Tools, then he would usually use Cubase. Interestingly enough, he used Sonar Platinum in his presentation!
Now that there is funny, LOL.
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2017/03/06 13:54:49
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declan I have no doubt much negativity about Sonar are Mac users, but it still puts off many new users in general.
That's not been my experience. One of my best friends is a life long PC guy. Never used a Mac, can't stand em'. I was already well acquainted with Cakewalk when he went shopping for his first DAW. To be fair, at that time Cakewalk (the program, not the company) had just added the first audio recording capability and thus was still to be considered a full blown MIDI sequencer with some rudimentary audio recording capability. Because of this, he opted to go with Protools. And he struggled with it. A lot. Together we both learned the software and figured out its MANY quirks. Fast forward a few years, I was now using Cakewalk pro audio at home and Protools at his place. My system still didn't do everything audio-wise that his could do, but mine could do most. And it was stable. Meanwhile, his projects took forever to load if they loaded at all. I still remember the frustrated phone call after yet another 90% completed project refused to load and would need to be done over. Him: That's it I'm done with Protools. Me: Great. Listen not for nothing but Sonar more or less does everything Protools does and its pretty stable. Him: Yeah, Sonar's kind of a sequencer primarily and I need audio so I think I'm going to go with Nuendo. Me: Nuendo? What's that? Him: Its based off Cubase and I hear good things about it. Me: The only thing I know about Cubase is I tried a demo version that came with my M-Audio card and I thought it was the most illogical thing ever invented. Him: I'm going to try it. Fast forward a year or two. Him: I'm switching to Cubase. Me: Why? Him: Everything I really need Nuendo to do, it doesn't really do. Me: You know, Sonar works great for me. Him: Yeah, no. Fast forward another year or two. Him: I'm switching back to Protools. Me: Why? Him: Cubase is so gat dang illogical I just can't take it anymore. Me: Happy trails. I don't even suggest Sonar anymore. Why bother? He's gone full circle leaving every platform out of frustration. Meanwhile I've been on Sonar and happy as a clam and I don't even bother to suggest it anymore because its clear he will just never hear it. And I'm sure he's not the only one. For better or worse, Sonar will always be the software that evolved from a MIDI sequencer and therefore isn't a real DAW in the minds of many of those who have never even tried it.
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2017/03/06 15:37:18
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☄ Helpfulby gswitz 2017/03/07 03:20:24
What a lol topic... I am not pro musician, but if someone is surprised by the text editor I have used to write particular program (can be Vi, Emacs, Geany, Visual Studio, Eclipse, MC editor and several other...) or even compilers I have used, I am not going to comment on that. For me that is an indication the person does not understand what programming is and what can influence the result and what can not.
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JohanSebatianGremlin
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Re: Tired of feeling like I have to make excuses for being a Sonar user...
2017/03/06 15:55:58
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe a file created in a text editor, should open just fine in pretty much any other text editor. That's not the case with DAW project files, so collaboration becomes an issue, or at the very least an additional challenge, when your friends are on a different platform.
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Re: Tired of feeling like I have to make excuses for being a Sonar user...
2017/03/06 16:22:48
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JohanSebatianGremlin Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe a file created in a text editor, should open just fine in pretty much any other text editor. That's not the case with DAW project files, so collaboration becomes an issue, or at the very least an additional challenge, when your friends are on a different platform.
If a program is just a text file, then a song is just a WAV file... But if your friends are inside Visual Studio and you are cross compiling with MinGW, you can have even more troubles then collaborating between Sonar and PT But original opened question was "How did you manage to achieve this using SONAR???" and not "How did you manage to work with studio XXX which is using PT only?".
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Re: Tired of feeling like I have to make excuses for being a Sonar user...
2017/03/06 17:04:53
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As a professional studio musician, for many years I have recorded a wide variety of musical genres in studios with all types of digital audio workstations. I think that in the recording world of today the choice of a DAW is based on what you are comfortable with and the bottom line is results. I have heard great records come out of Pro Tools and I have also heard some real garbage out of Pro Tools. Its all about how you use it. I have been a Cakewalk user since 1999 and have been using Sonar Platinum exclusively with superb results. Nobody has ever questioned the DAW used but rather just how they enjoy the record. Its all about getting the desired result and how comfortable you are with the workflow of your studio setup. I personally don't care about what others say because Sonar works for me. I am not all that impressed with Pro Tools and I have had no issues with Sonar. Most of the artists that come into my studio do not know the difference between Pro Tools, Sonar or any other platform all they want is a great recording and with Sonar Platinum and my expertise that's exactly what they receive.
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Re: Tired of feeling like I have to make excuses for being a Sonar user...
2017/03/06 18:49:48
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I don't think the problem is on the engineering side - it's uninformed artists that only know protools and assume that every other program is third rate.
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