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Todays windows optimization tip
A lot of people (including me) tend to forget about looking at seeing what is going on with the task scheduler. Apps love putting in loads of entries here without any notification. Microsoft (among others) often leave tasks here you don't need to run. If you are in doubt about disabling a task, Google it up. Cheers Alex
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Re: Todays windows optimization tip
2013/11/20 13:12:44
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+1 to that, Alex And I recommend digging deep, especially with Microsoft services - some of which do nothing but dialing home for things like customer experience feedback I remember one weird occasion when we had a heavy work session with Sonar and all worked fine for 8 hours, but suddenly changed to getting drop-outs for no obvious reason ... and since this happened right after midnight I got a tip from a forumite to go check the remaining scheduled tasks - and bingo: there was one of these useless buggers that had awoken to disturb DAW peace ...
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Re: Todays windows optimization tip
2013/11/20 15:57:11
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☄ Helpfulby jbow 2013/11/20 17:07:36
FreeFlyBertl +1 to that, Alex And I recommend digging deep, especially with Microsoft services - some of which do nothing but dialing home for things like customer experience feedback I remember one weird occasion when we had a heavy work session with Sonar and all worked fine for 8 hours, but suddenly changed to getting drop-outs for no obvious reason ... and since this happened right after midnight I got a tip from a forumite to go check the remaining scheduled tasks - and bingo: there was one of these useless buggers that had awoken to disturb DAW peace ...
I have been there before. All of a sudden a windows update starts right in the middle of your recording session or the task scheduler starts a defrag process or something stupid like that. Now I have a set of rules that resolves a bunch of problems. Before I start to record I take the time to disconnect from the internet. I disable windows update, task scheduler, security stuff and virus software. I disable useless third party programs that run in the background. like for example skype update apps. When I am finished recording and I want to use the computer for other things I will enable all that stuff again. This practice has saved me a ton of headaches while using Sonar.
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Re: Todays windows optimization tip
2013/11/20 19:12:31
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Being a PC tech, I keep a fairly "vanilla" system. However, I do go through and disable the Ethernet NIC, stop other programs such as Malwarebytes, Logitech monitor, AMD Video helper, etc., before recording (or mixing). After I'm done, I enable the Ethernet NIC and then restart the PC to bring everything back. Another thing I do after I finish whatever recording/mixing, etc is to back up the project to a second hard drive.
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Re: Todays windows optimization tip
2013/11/20 19:23:49
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" I disable windows update, task scheduler,..." How do you disable task scheduler (win 7) ?
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Re: Todays windows optimization tip
2013/11/20 19:29:16
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fireberd Being a PC tech, I keep a fairly "vanilla" system. However, I do go through and disable the Ethernet NIC, stop other programs such as Malwarebytes, Logitech monitor, AMD Video helper, etc., before recording (or mixing). After I'm done, I enable the Ethernet NIC and then restart the PC to bring everything back. Another thing I do after I finish whatever recording/mixing, etc is to back up the project to a second hard drive.
Hmmm..different strokes I guess, but I have zero issues with any of that. I also run a vanilla system with some tweaks, but I certainly have no need to go thorugh that rather irksome process..Of course, as always YMMV.
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Re: Todays windows optimization tip
2013/11/20 19:49:36
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> I disable windows update, task scheduler, security stuff and virus software. I disable useless third party programs that run in the background. like for example skype update apps. Windows update, task scheduler, security software, virus scanners all enabled. Everything works fine at my end. If it's configured correctly this functionality becomes your friend not your enemy. Internet works all the time as well. All I have is DAW software running. Windows is optimal (unnecessary services and processes disabled) and it's probably taken days to get it that way. Every now and again I need to perform maintenance to keep it that way. When I want to go into an environment for skype, office etc I reboot my machine and start another Windows operating system or whatever miles away from my DAW.. That's the killer, when you run third party apps beside your DAW like Word and Skype etc.
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Re: Todays windows optimization tip
2013/11/20 19:53:13
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☄ Helpfulby Jay Tee 4303 2013/11/21 11:53:12
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" I disable windows update, task scheduler,..." How do you disable task scheduler (win 7) ?
There are a few ways to do this. but perhaps the easiest way to do this in windows 7 is to go to start and in the search type msconfig. A window comes up with 5 tabs. There is a tab called services. These are all the services that run in the background when windows is operational. Some of those things the OS needs to function so be careful when you are in there and don't turn off anything if you don't know what it does! task scheduler can be found in there. Just uncheck mark it. You can also uncheck mark windows update while your at it. You can also uncheck disk defragmenter. There is a box that says hide all microsoft services. Check that and only the third party services show and the microsoft services are removed from the list. uncheck things like skype updater, google updater ect. These things run in the background and they look to see if there are updates for third party software. The startup tab shows a list of all the programs that start when you turn on your computer. Some of these run in the background. Others display an icon to the bottom right next to the windows clock. turn things off like apple update ect. Don't turn off anything you think you might use. I keep the adobe on because Sonars manuals are in adobe pdfs and I may need to reference them. When your done exit and reboot. That is it your done. Takes 15 minutes and now your ready to record music. When your done go back an enable everything again
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Re: Todays windows optimization tip
2013/11/20 21:22:26
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☄ Helpfulby Vastman 2013/11/21 03:27:59
Sorry few things I disagree with..... Using msconfig to disable services or apps is not recommended at all. This is generally only used for troubleshooting purposes and not optimizing! Before you remove or tweak anything check to see if you can remove some applications in you control panel first under "uninstall a program". If you need services just go to control panel and search for services, or find it through administrative tools. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc736564%28v=ws.10%29.aspx As far as startup is concerned, once you are certain you can get rid of a process it is better to delete it rather than disable it (you could then audition with msconfig but google generally tells you all you need to know), I use ccleaner for this (although I've also been known to delete the registry keys myself, you really only need regedit, but that can be dangerous).... check here: http://www.howtogeek.com/74523/ There are lots of methods but you should not use msconfig unless you are troubleshooting or doing something that is temporary. If you want to see what is going on Process Monitor is highly recommended. You should never disable the task scheduler , but you should check to see what tasks are actually running, and either remove or get them to run at more convenient times. There is some stuff there you want to run. More info: http://blogs.technet.com/b/askpfeplat/archive/2013/07/15/why-you-shouldn-t-disable-the-task-scheduler-service-in-windows-7-and-windows-8.aspx cc-Cleaner is also good at cleaning up the disk and the registry. Some people don't like cleaning up the registry, the reasons are valid enough, I can understand that, but I do it and have never had a problem. Always update your drivers, always run windows update. Finally defrag! and Run chkdsk often. Every six months I recommend running sfc /scannow but that's not strictly necessary. Check your event viewer often. And have a backup/rollback strategy. !!! BTW this takes a lot longer than 15 minutes.
post edited by CakeAlexS - 2013/11/20 22:38:48
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Re: Todays windows optimization tip
2013/11/20 21:28:48
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Alex, This sort of information for DAW tuning is so useful. I wish there was a DAW tuning wiki (is there?) or something like that where the universe of knowledge for optimized DAW tweaking was available for the mortal user. Can you imagine a DAW install/optimize utility that actually goes out and checks this stuff for you and makes recommendations and tweaks upon user approval? I'm imagining it...
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Re: Todays windows optimization tip
2013/11/20 21:35:29
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Hi Robert I wish I knew something that would automate it, but then really it is a human that needs to take the decisions. For drivers I found this this (well actually a fellow cakewalker did!) and is excellent for updating drivers providing you are careful: http://forum.cakewalk.com/Driver-Boost-m2928792.aspx Sometimes you still need to update manually. And of course windows update. But always back up! :)
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Re: Todays windows optimization tip
2013/11/20 21:39:13
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☄ Helpfulby dubdisciple 2013/11/22 12:29:19
Here's another one, you can run your virus scanner. Just get real time scanning to exclude your cakewalk project directories, the ports you use for music (i.e. firewire) and this http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822158 (and no this is not just for enterprise computers). And schedule the updates so they don't get in your way (in fact my DAW runs fine even when the virus scanner is updating).
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Re: Todays windows optimization tip
2013/11/20 21:45:23
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Totally agree Alex. The Msconfig is not a good way to disable programs. Use the Startup tab in Task Manager to prevent programs from auto starting. This is in Windows 8 and 8.1. I'll bet its also in Win 7 too. I like to simply uninstall programs that I don't want on my system.
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Re: Todays windows optimization tip
2013/11/20 21:57:58
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CakeAlexS Sorry few things I disagree with.....
Using msconfig to disable services or apps is not recommended at all. This is generally only used for troubleshooting purposes and not optimizing! Before you remove or tweak anything check to see if you can remove some applications in you control panel first under "uninstall a program". If you need services just go to control panel and search for services, or find it through administrative tools. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc736564%28v=ws.10%29.aspx As far as startup is concerned, once you are certain you can get rid of a process it is better to delete it rather than disable it (you could then audition with msconfig but google generally tells you all you need to know), I use ccleaner for this (although I've also been know to delete the registry keys).... check here: http://www.howtogeek.com/74523/ There are lots of methods but you should not use msconfig unless you are troubleshooting or doing something that is temporary. If you want to see what is going on Process Monitor is highly recommended. You should never disable the task scheduler , but you should check to see what it is it is actually running. There is some stuff there you want to run. More info: http://blogs.technet.com/b/askpfeplat/archive/2013/07/15/why-you-shouldn-t-disable-the-task-scheduler-service-in-windows-7-and-windows-8.aspx cc-Cleaner is also good at cleaning up the disk and the registry. Some people don't like cleaning up the registry, the reasons are valid enough, I can understand that, but I do it and have never had a problem. Always update your drivers, always run windows update. Finally defrag! and Run chkdsk often. Every six months I recommend running sfc /scannow but that's not strictly necessary. And have a backup/rollback strategy. !!!
We should agree to disagree. I don't use msconfig to optimize. I use it to turn things off while I record music. Things that in the past are needed but have personally caused me problems during the recording process. If I could have a computer to just record music that is what I would do. This PC is used for a lot of other things. It is easier to unplug from the internet and shut the update services off then to deal with windows updates, skype update, google update or an apple update running in the background while I am trying to record music. Many times I am unaware when some these updates start until it is ready to download or install. It is frustrating for me to be in the middle of working out a guitar solo only to have windows tell me that the updates are done would you like to reboot, or have a skype update banner flash during the recording process. The way I choose not to deal with this is to shut it off until I am done recording. I don't want to get rid of start up apps. I just want to disable them temporarily. msconfig works just fine for that and I believe that is what it is for in the first place. I agree a backup/rollback strategy is important. The goal here is not optimizing and it is not troubleshooting. it is avoiding problems that have happened to me and ruined perfectly good audio takes. That kills any creative inspiration for me. I don't want to uninstall the program that I disabled. registry cleaners have messed up my computer way more then using msconfig. In fact I can't think of one time msconfig has messed anything up on my systems. I will say that since I have been doing this Sonar has been rock solid for me X1 through X3. I have not had any of the major issues that I read about on this forum. I have had hardware issues, but that was not the fault of Sonar or Windows 7. I am not saying everyone should do this. People have their own methods. This is the way I approach the problem. It works for me. I know you would not disable the task scheduler and that is fine for you. I don't need those things running when I am recording music. So yes before I record music I disable the internet and I shut down programs that I don't want running in the background. Personally even though this approach may seem unconventional and unpopular to some on this forum, it works for me and I have not had any major issues with the X series (software wise) now excuse me while I find a piece of wood to knock on
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Re: Todays windows optimization tip
2013/11/20 22:19:53
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What works for you, but I'm mainly looking at Microsoft recommendations.. the people who build the software. MSConfig was always designed as a troubleshooting tool. And you don't like updates happening in the middle of something then go to the task scheduler and sort it out. If you need to tweak services go to windows services snapin. Microsoft does not recommend disabling task scheduler. And what are you doing installing Skype on your DAW environment? Right tool for the right job! What you are doing here is quick fixes which, as you say, 15 minutes are you are done. That to me is not optimization, and you are having to fiddle all the time :). But if it works for you then great, far from me to tell you what to do :)
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Re: Todays windows optimization tip
2013/11/20 22:57:43
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Hi Alex, The link you posted said this about task scheduler "Because disabling the task scheduler does not make your system more secure, nor does it increase system performance. In fact, it makes your system less secure in Windows 8, and in Windows 7 and 8 makes performance worse, especially over time. In Windows 7 the Task Scheduler is responsible for background health and cleaning processes such as optimizing prefetch and readyboot for instance. It also handles light defragmentation runs on the system." I don't disagree with this at all. I just don't want defragmentation to run. I don't want any other cleaning processes to start while I am recording. I am not connected to the internet during the recording process so that is better security then a firewall can provide. I think the performance issues arise when you leave task scheduler disabled. I don't do that. I only disable it for the hours I am recording. Same thing with updates and the other services that are disabled. The goal here is not optimization. That is done at another time. The goal here is a quick turn off and then a turn everything back on when I am done so the computer does not decide to optimize on its own. As far as the start up apps go I agree. Use uninstall and get rid of junk. The things I disable are things I want to keep and turn back on shortly. In fact I really don't disagree with a lot of what you posted for optimization. your right I use msconfig because it is quick. Once again the goal is not optimization or backing up the system. I only own one home computer. Unfortunately for me I got to use it for everything. The other computers in the house belong to my wife and children. They each have their own because they can't use mine. Skype is installed to keep up with family members and friends some of them are in the military. Sonar is not used here as a business. This is just a project studio. Although I have made some money on the side it is only so I can legally write Sonar and other music gear off my taxes. I wish I had the money for a dedicated machine to be just a DAW that would be nice. but right now the funds are not available.
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Re: Todays windows optimization tip
2013/11/20 23:06:29
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I don't disagree with this at all. I just don't want defragmentation to run. I don't want any other cleaning processes to start while I am recording. Then configure it the way you like it in task scheduler! I wish I had the money for a dedicated machine to be just a DAW that would be nice. but right now the funds are not available. Then do what I do and have a multiboot environment... Totally understand about the time thing... Yup you workaround things like many people do, life is too short.
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Re: Todays windows optimization tip
2013/11/21 02:55:07
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I really run virtually anything on my computer with no obvious negative effects on my DAW performance. Uninstalling programs you tried and don't need anymore is good advice though,and obviously you don't want to actually be running Skype or the Java Updater while you're recording.
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Re: Todays windows optimization tip
2013/11/21 03:19:26
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" I disable windows update, task scheduler,..." How do you disable task scheduler (win 7) ?
The startup tab shows a list of all the programs that start when you turn on your computer. (...) Don't turn off anything you think you might use. I keep the adobe on because Sonars manuals are in adobe pdfs and I may need to reference them.
You can uncheck all the programs in the startup tab (except for antivirus, firewall, etc, if the PC stays connected to internet, which is not the case here). They will be opened and ok when you will need them (for example Adobe). Nb : I also use msconfig, for the same purpose, for a long time, and i think it is very useful and rather safe. Never had any problem with it (but i would never uncheck a service i don't know what it is for - the less is more !), especially with the startup tab (where i always uncheck all items). Be very careful with Regedit and Ccleaner or others registry cleaner ; they are very powerful, very dangerous, and should be reserved for the very warned users. Msconfig is widely enough, and even it has to be used with precautions, like all the tweaking tips (sometimes so-called "tips"). Since the modern PCs are so powerful, most of these tricks became totally useless (it was not the case in the 80s or the 90s, or at the beginning of 2000s).
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Re: Todays windows optimization tip
2013/11/21 08:20:08
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Rubbish, msconfig is designed as a troubleshooting tool and has always been misused. Just because people use it widely doesn't mean it isn't being misused. And no it isn't dangerous it's just not best practice. It should not be encouraged as a performance tool, rather a tool for temporary changes.
"most of these tricks became totally useless"
Absolute rubbish again... Total and utter. You sound like Microsoft when they said defragging was totally unnecessary with NT3. The next release they supplied a defragger.
Name one of the items that I posted that is useless. They all work and can perform significant improvements. Often I use them as troubleshootong steps when people have performance problems and with some success. Virus scanner exclusions , defrag, schedule, startup program, windows update item, driver update, chkdsk all contribute to a stable and quick system and can bring huge improvements to performance and stability.
The only one debatable is registry optimisation as I clearly statated at the beginning and agree its dangerous to tweek the registry unless you know what you are doing. Funily enough you seem to use that one as the example. And as I stated I totally disagree with disabling task scheduler, it should be tweeked.
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Re: Todays windows optimization tip
2013/11/21 08:33:16
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CakeAlexS A lot of people (including me) tend to forget about looking at seeing what is going on with the . Good advice. The description at the linked page appears to be incorrect for Windows 8.1, its been moved to Administrative Tools...
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Re: Todays windows optimization tip
2013/11/21 08:41:57
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Everything is incorrect for window 8 :) You just press the start button and type it assuming it is set up nicely. Good point though.
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Re: Todays windows optimization tip
2013/11/21 09:05:20
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CakeAlexS Then configure it the way you like it in task scheduler! Then do what I do and have a multiboot environment...
In the past I used a multi-boot environment in Vista and XP and it worked well for recording. I have a quick question for you though. The computer I purchased 2 years go (dell) did not come with a set of restore disks. The very first thing I did was remove the bloat garbage that come with these computers. I used a backup utility to image the hard drive and created a backup. The utility app was provided by dell. I had an issue where the whole hard drive crashed. don't know what caused it. I think my kids got on my computer. I ran the backup utility and it restored everything. As I recall there was not an option to create another partition. everything was done automatically. The restore disks that I made from the backup utility did restore the hard drive. So here are the questions. If I do a multi environment system wouldn't that require the purchase of another windows 7 license? This backup program does not allow you to create a multi windows environment. Do you know of a better third party utility that does? I don't know why backup disks are not shipped with these things anymore. I can get the drivers on line and that is not a problem, but I would sure like a copy of the operating system. It use to be that these computer companies would create two partitions on the hard drive and put the operating system on one drive and load and restore form the partition that contains the operating system. with this purchase all I got was this stupid dell backup utility. This is why I have not made a multi-boot environment. I don't have a set recording schedule which was why I avoided setting up or messing around with the task scheduler. I do run defrag and make regular backups. I do restore points and other stuff. I just don't set it up to do it automatically because my schedule always changes and my computer is not on all the time. Sometimes I will go two or three days without it booted up.
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Re: Todays windows optimization tip
2013/11/21 11:37:27
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CakeAlexS Name one of the items that I posted that is useless. They all work and can perform significant improvements. Often I use them as troubleshootong steps when people have performance problems and with some success. Virus scanner exclusions , defrag, schedule, startup program, windows update item, driver update, chkdsk all contribute to a stable and quick system and can bring huge improvements to performance and stability. The only one debatable is registry optimisation as I clearly statated at the beginning and agree its dangerous to tweek the registry unless you know what you are doing. Funily enough you seem to use that one as the example. And as I stated I totally disagree with disabling task scheduler, it should be tweeked.
I was not writing about YOUR items (which are wellknown and ok for me), but, more generally, about the tons of so called optimization tweaks that we can find on the Net, including disabling services, registry tips and so on ; and it was only to warn the beginners (the others don't really need my advices, i guess). Sorry if it was not clear. Also, i have not exactly the same thought about the msconfig, but it seems that your way works for you, and that mine works for me, so we can verify that "tous les chemins mènent à Rome" ;-) ! About the task scheduler, i never had the idea to disable it, and i won't (thanks for the link). Nb : I am an old timer (bought my first PC in 1984 - a Compaq AT286 !), so maybe i have bad habits...
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Re: Todays windows optimization tip
2013/11/21 11:45:43
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Indeed, friends again! :)
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Re: Todays windows optimization tip
2013/11/21 11:47:07
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Marcus will get back to you if somebody else hasn't by then...
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Re: Todays windows optimization tip
2013/11/21 14:13:57
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No love here for creating a separate user account for your DAW's? One of the best things I ever did! You can disable a ton of stuff you don't need. I have a separate user account for business use, which has all of my Quickbooks/Outlook/Google sync crap running in the background.
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Re: Todays windows optimization tip
2013/11/21 16:50:21
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Wow, i will try it (don't know a lot about user account customization) !
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Re: Todays windows optimization tip
2013/11/21 17:34:28
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Well there is machine level (KEY_LOCAL_MACHINE) and user level (HKEY_LOCAL_USER). User level doesn't make much difference. Just apps in the start menu really (and the startup registry items) and it might look better. It won't remove the apps or the services or the drivers you don't need. Could be a step forward for some, it's a valid point.... Dual boot better is better...
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Re: Todays windows optimization tip
2013/11/21 17:57:40
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With a separate user account you can decide what startup programs you don't want. For instance when I load my business account, there are a whole bunch of processes related to Quickbooks running, as well as some related to Google Drive and my Google/Outlook sync. Plus lots of other stuff that I don't want running when I'm using Sonar. I believe when you create a new user account it has it's own startup folder.
Another advantage is that you can have separate settings for things like appearance (turn off Aero for example) and Windows sounds. And all of your music related data that's stored in your User folder will be kept separate.
I just find it more convenient overall. It doesn't give you massively significant performance or stability gains, but you might get some if your regular startup programs are interfering with your audio production in some way.
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